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An economical battery of guns for the backwoods home
Backwoods Home ^ | 10-27-08 | Massad Ayoob

Posted on 10/28/2008 6:05:08 PM PDT by SJackson

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To: Harry Wurzbach; tubebender; B4Ranch

Any one of them, but preferably one whose caliber begins with a 4. If you can afford a Glock, you can look at SIGs. Same rule applies.

OTOH, the prime home defense arm is a shotgun.


21 posted on 10/28/2008 6:25:01 PM PDT by glock rocks (I'm the NRA, and I vote. Pray for the republic.)
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To: SJackson; All

Very good article and very informative.

Thanks SJ!! BTTT !!


22 posted on 10/28/2008 6:25:03 PM PDT by musicman (Sarah Palin Runs A STATE - Barack Obama Runs His MOUTH)
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To: Grizzled Bear

And regardless of your experience, know and follow the 4 rules of gun safety at all times.


23 posted on 10/28/2008 6:25:40 PM PDT by ibbryn (this tag intentionally left blank)
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To: SJackson

Well, in all fairness, the gentleman did say “At an absolute minimum,” to qualify his statement.


24 posted on 10/28/2008 6:25:52 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: Lurker

I looked at the XD but my dealer gave me an excellent deal on the Smith and Wesson M&P (Mil Spec). It includes a case and three 10 round magazines.


25 posted on 10/28/2008 6:26:39 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: umgud
If your’re not ccw’ing, you can get the 9mm with a 19 round mag.

... or a Glock 9mm with a 30 round factory mag :o)

26 posted on 10/28/2008 6:26:45 PM PDT by glock rocks (I'm the NRA, and I vote. Pray for the republic.)
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To: autumnraine
It seemed surreal, but I was dead honest and I almost had to step back and think, Good God, I don’t live in Zimbabwe, I live in America!

Neither did the people living in Rhodesia, until it became Zimbabwe.

27 posted on 10/28/2008 6:28:07 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: B4Ranch
If your wife ever starts giving you a hard time about buying firearms, bring up...

In fairness she doesn't, though she has given questionable advice on trades once or twice, as in you can't trade that because..., usually family things.

28 posted on 10/28/2008 6:28:25 PM PDT by SJackson (I don't believe that people should be able to own guns, BH Obama to John Lott)
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To: B4Ranch
If your wife ever starts giving you a hard time about buying firearms,

Mine gave me a hard time about buying a shotgun (Browning BPS). About 2 months after that I had to go out of town to class for a week. The Saturday after I got back I went to get it out of the hall closet to go skeet shooting with some people from work. It was gone.

I found it under the bed.

29 posted on 10/28/2008 6:29:19 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: randomhero97

Thank you, so much!


30 posted on 10/28/2008 6:31:25 PM PDT by rabidralph (Yeah, she's all that.)
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To: B4Ranch
If your wife ever starts giving you a hard time about buying firearms

... sounds like you're speaking from experience?

31 posted on 10/28/2008 6:31:34 PM PDT by glock rocks (I'm the NRA, and I vote. Pray for the republic.)
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To: SJackson
At an absolute minimum, I would suggest four guns for the backwoods home. These would be a .22, a shotgun, a defensive-type handgun, and a high-powered rifle.

Four, as in 4?

Only one of each?

Well, here are rules - you have to carry your guns and the ammo for them, along with your sleeping bag, tent, water, food, stove, canteen cup, first aid kit, knife and compass twenty miles into the woods...

32 posted on 10/28/2008 6:31:36 PM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: Harry Wurzbach
If I wanted to buy a handgun for home security, say, a Glock, what model should I consider? Thanks.

I'm a bit of a revolver fan, but the most important issue is your comfort level with the handgun you own, your ability to place the first 2 or 3 shots on target under high stress.

You'll get plenty of advice on the thread, but if you've got a handgun you're comfortable with, start there.

My "handgun" choice strictly for home defence, a shotgun.

33 posted on 10/28/2008 6:34:22 PM PDT by SJackson (I don't believe that people should be able to own guns, BH Obama to John Lott)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil
Well, here are rules - you have to carry your guns and the ammo for them, along with your sleeping bag, tent, water, food, stove, canteen cup, first aid kit, knife and compass twenty miles into the woods...

Done that, narrows it down to two, at most, one if I'm not hunting.

34 posted on 10/28/2008 6:35:56 PM PDT by SJackson (I don't believe that people should be able to own guns, BH Obama to John Lott)
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To: SJackson; glock rocks; Grizzled Bear; mcshot; ibbryn; Lurker

Thanks!


35 posted on 10/28/2008 6:38:11 PM PDT by Harry Wurzbach (Joe The Plumber & Rep. Thaddeus McCotter are my heroes.)
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To: SJackson

Thanks


36 posted on 10/28/2008 6:39:03 PM PDT by Harry Wurzbach (Joe The Plumber & Rep. Thaddeus McCotter are my heroes.)
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To: SJackson

S&W M&P15T
Mossberg 930 SPX
Kimber Warrior
Barrett 98B


37 posted on 10/28/2008 6:39:47 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Harry Wurzbach

While I don’t recommend Glocks since the safety is on the trigger, meaning the trigger is the only safety, they are reliable and I have owned two with no problems. I would recommend going to a shooting range that rents them and try a few. I would consider the 9mm as the least powerful round to consider (Glock 17 is full sized 9mm and Glock 19 is smaller). Going up in power are the .40 cal S&W, 45ACP and 10mm. The 10mm is most powerful (Glock 20 is full sized and 29 is smaller) but ammo is more expensive and recoil makes them more difficult to shoot. I am not familiar with the 40 cal Glocks, but this round is almost up to 45ACP power levels. In 45ACP there is the full sized Glock 21, the smaller Glock 30 and the compact Glock 36.

I have owned the Glock 19 9mm and the Glock 30 45ACP. If you can handle the recoil I would go with the Glock 21 or 30 in 45ACP. If not, I would go with the Glock 17 or 19. I mention these two calibers because the ammo is more common and is cheaper, giving you more opportunity to practice. For self-defense loads use a premium hollow-point if you don’t live in NJ. Good brands are Speer Gold Dot, Federal HST, Winchester SXT, and there are others. For practice use less expensive full metal jacket (FMJ), but make sure you shoot a few boxes of the home defense choice to make sure it will feed reliably.

You may want to try other guns you can rent too. A 357 magnum revolver can shoot 38 special ammo as well and reliability is usually better than with a semi-auto pistol. I personally like a thumb safety on a semi-auto. Many quality manufacturers offer guns that are similar to Glocks, but with a real safety feature.


38 posted on 10/28/2008 6:39:51 PM PDT by MtnClimber (http://www.jeffhead.com/obama/nobamanation-sticker.jpg)
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To: Harry Wurzbach

Glock 17. I loved it so much I now have 3 of them.

If you want a .45 get the glock 21 I have one of those as well and its sweet to shoot.


39 posted on 10/28/2008 6:40:01 PM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: glock rocks

I showed her the Barrett website, told her they would deliver to our doorstep and she calmed right down. Hey, she looks at $10K jewelry so I should be able to look at $10K weaponry. Right?


40 posted on 10/28/2008 6:46:05 PM PDT by B4Ranch (I'd rather have a VP that can gut a Moose, than a President that wants to gut our Second Amendment!)
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