Tuesday, September 30, 2008
OBAMA'S REAL FATHER: ONLY FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS CONNECTS ALL THE DOTS
Posted on 10/28/2008 8:13:18 PM PDT by Kukai
As I speculated in a recent article, Obama had a dual purpose in leaving his campaign for Hawaii. And whaddaya know? His plane had barely touched down from his trip to Honolulu - ostensibly to visit his ailing granny - when the Republican governor of the Aloha State, Linda Lingle, placed his birth certificate under seal, directed the state's Department of Health to bar access of the document to the press, and declared that the only people eligible to obtain it were the person born or someone acting on his behalf, a relative, or a legal guardian.
So did Obama request the document, the better to resolve the question of his eligibility to be president? With less than a week to go before the election - and with attorney Philip J. Berg's lawsuit questioning that eligibility on the way to the Supreme Court - we still haven't seen Obama's birth certificate!
The peculiar events of the last week leave more questions than answers.
If Lingle sealed Obama's birth certificate, then there is indeed a record of his birth in Hawaii. But as The Obama Nation author Jerome Corsi writes, there is still no answer about "whether the original document...was a hospital-generated birth certificate or a registration of birth that may have been filed subsequent to the birth." In other words, we still don't know if Obama was born in Hawaii or on foreign soil.
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Has Linda Lingle endorsed Oprah’s Obama?
That wasn’t cunning, Lingle. Whatcha doing?
I don’t believe in coincidences. I bet he had to sign some legal document in person placing the birth certificate out of reach, and hid behind his poor sick granny while doing it.
Wait a minute here. I am pretty sure I have seen Lingle interviewed about Gov. Palin, who is her friend. Is it possible she was threatened?
Help educate me … I thought all birth and death certificates were part of the public record? I have access to my birth certificate, and the death certificates of my parents … as part of public records, with no prohibitions other than a small fee for processing?
Wait a minute here. I am pretty sure I have seen Lingle interviewed about Gov. Palin, who is her friend. Is it possible she was threatened?
The timing of the trip and this “sealing” cannot possibly be coincidental. Obama is hiding something. The only question is “what?”.
If this was “Joe the Plummer’s” birth certificate, it would be on the cover of Time and Newsweak.
Unless of course there is something to hide. Then another addition will have to be made to that list- a court order.
And, another question remains, is Obama eligible to run for POTUS without producing proof of citizenship?
You would think the courts would DEMAND this question be resolved immediately before people go to the polls.
I will never understand how he can be on the ticket without providing this birth certificate.
I think she was protecting her own administration. If the birth certificate was leaked, she would get blamed, regardless of what is on it. On the other hand, if the document was subpoenaed, then she has cover. If there are any “October surprises” out there that will nail the Zero, we still have until the weekend to find out.
Curiouser and curiouser, that Curious BHO/George
How is granny anyway? I thought she was on her death bed?
Funny how everyone seems to have forgotten all about her.
Wow, he’s as bad as Johnny Fairplay from Survivor.
Can’t believe this unknown person will be the POTUS!
Scary stuff!
Seems to me Lingle is just enforcing Hawaii law, her announcement may have more to do with recent visits by Corsi and Andrew Martin. Am I missing something ?
Yes sealing under her care and custudy makes easily accessable for a Federal court get a copy in a very timely manner when an order is issued for the certificate.
Since Hawaii law provides that such records are to be kept private unless released by a family member and since everyone was trying to get it, perhaps the Gov sealed it to prevent some state employee from illegally releasing it and subjecting the state to a lawsuit. (See Joe the Plumber who probably will go after Ohio for permitting systems which allowed state emplyees to search state records snad release material about him covered by privacy laws.)
The whole ailing granny thing reeks. They built this story up for 4 whole days to garner sympathy for Obama, before he finally got around to visiting her, he stayed for 1 day, and we haven’t heard about her since.
However, right after his visit, the governor of HI, seals his BC?
Someting stinks in Aloha Land.
LOL..!!!
Just about everything about BO stinks.
Apparently, the Obamas are upset because perhaps young Barack when he declared he wanted to run for the Presidency of the US in 1974 (see the Occidental College Video of him on YouTube) HE DID NOT KNOW OF THE DUAL CITIZENSHIP LAW IN INDONESIA AT THE TIME WOULD PREVENT HIM FROM BEING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
The Obamas are scared of the truth. One cannot have maintained citizenship in the US if you were adopted by an Indonesian during that time period.
He is not qualified to be President of the US. That’s why Michelle Obama said “No law” about how his Indonesian step father adopted him would stop him.
It already has. They just don’t want to admit it. See you in Supreme Court for a 2000 election year nightmare.
I was wondering the same thing, but evidently there is no requirement for eligibility to run, just to assume the office. It’s up to the electors to decide eligibility for the office.
My father told me today that a local talk radio guy in Syracuse thinks Obama will win, be declared ineligible because he’s not a natural born citizen and the electors will choose Hillary. Let’s hope McCain makes this a moot point.
Sometimes my job requires that I have access to secure and sensitive areas. Last year some new rule mandated I provide my birth certificate. I did so. Nothing to hide here.
Obama wants to be president but doesn't want to produce the same document I was required to. There is something wrong with this picture.
Sometimes my job requires that I have access to secure and sensitive areas. Last year some new rule mandated I provide my birth certificate. I did so. Nothing to hide here.
Obama wants to be president but doesn't want to produce the same document I was required to. There is something wrong with this picture.
Not really the Hawaii Department of Heath website had the rules already in place at least several months ago, which was just the first time I went and looked for them. AFAIK, they haven't changed, but here is what I just retrieved from the link above:
A certified copy of a vital record (birth, death, marriage, or divorce certificate) is issued only to an applicant who has a direct and tangible interest in the record. The following persons are considered to have such an interest:
* the registrant (the person whom the record is concerned with);
* the registrant’s spouse;
* the registrant’s parent(s);
* a descendant of the registrant (e.g., a child or grandchild);
* a person having a common ancestor with the registrant (e.g., a sibling, grandparent, aunt/uncle, or cousin);
* a legal guardian of the registrant;
* a person or agency acting on behalf of the registrant;
* a personal representative of the registrant’s estate;
* a person whose right to obtain a copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction;
* adoptive parents who have filed a petition for adoption and need to determine the death of one or more of the prospective adopted child’s natural or legal parents;
* a person who needs to determine the marital status of a former spouse in order to determine the payment of alimony;
* a person who needs to determine the death of a nonrelated co-owner of property purchased under a joint tenancy agreement; and
* a person who needs a death certificate for the determination of payments under a credit insurance policy.
So the governor is just restating the preexisting rules. How long they have existed is another question.
Linda Lingle was only following the law, which says that birth records are private and cannot be released without the person’s permission.
There are some exceptions, such as relatives, heirs, and the like. But no one else.
I’m also pretty sure that Obama was up to no good on his trip to Hawaii, but I’m far from certain what he was up to. Maybe something his grandmother knew, or paperwork she had, that he wanted to keep secret? She is hiding her behind an iron curtain.
The Chutzpah Factor Unanswered questions and suspect legalities aside, what equips Obama to be president? When the Illinois senator took office in November 2004, he spent a total of 143 days "on the job" - the number of days the senate was actually in session and working -before beginning his campaign for President of the United States, Commander-in-Chief of America's Armed Forces, and the most powerful man in the world.
Here is what he could never become after 143 days of experience: District Manager at McDonald's, Chief of Surgery, Superintendent of Schools, a Colonel in the Army, or a nightly news anchor. Yet he and his acolytes think he's ready! As, of course, does his wife Michelle, who is perfectly in sync with her husband's campaign in taking every opportunity to ignite racial dissension.
Speaking to African Press International (API), which is based in Norway, Michelle Obama disclaimed: ""My husband and I know that there is no law that will stop him from becoming the president, just because some American white racists are bringing up the issue of my husband's adoption by his step father."
Writes the editor of Canada Free Press Judi McLeod, "In other words, according to the overzealous, you're-all-racists wife of candidate for presidency Barack Hussein Obama, the fix is already in."
"With an arrogance that can only be described as stunning," McLeod continues, "Michelle Obama said API would earn an invite to hubby's upcoming inauguration ceremony when he will be installed as the next President of the United States of America next year, if only they wrote a `good' story. Meanwhile, there is no doubt that without a single vote having been cast for her husband...Michelle is already off choosing her gown for his inauguration ball."
The Elephant In The Living Room
Was Obama born in Hawaii?
Was Obama born in Kenya?
>Was Obama born in Indonesia?
Curious people and those who revere the United States Constitution want to know. But as lawyers, judges, investigators, journalists, and political operatives dance around those questions, the real elephant in the living room - the subject Obama and his supporters want to avoid like the plague - is the whereabouts of his birth certificate.
This whole thing reeks of a coup d'etat
If it goes to the hands of the electors, they will not have the stones to overturn an Obama election.
He spent his usual one hour with Granny. In August it was one hour and in October.
Flew his big ole 757 at a cost of 150,000 or more.
If Obama had been older, it might be used against him, but as a young child he wouldn't have had any say in the matter.
I don't want him to become President, but relying on questionable legalisms is not likely to prevent it from happening.
Thank goodness he didn't spend the money on clothes. That would have been scandalous.
That used to be the case, before the days of identity theft on a large scale. I don't think it is any more.
If you look at the procedures for ordering copies, you might think you could just ask for verification, but the first link states the the requirements for verification of existance and of particular information on the certificate are the same as for obtaining a copy.
Lingle also tips her hands that the file and what ever it contains or doesn’t is available if so ordered by a court.
I can access the birth and death certificates of several people with little more than a small fee for processing. Have done it on several occasions, why is Hawaii different?
Then he shouldn't have a problem being forthcoming about it.
The Emporer has plent of news clothes and you can bet he didn’t spend a dime for any of his threads.
It is a technicality but apparently at technicality that scares Obama out of being open and honest with his birth certificate and other withheld government and school records.
If he just gave out the information, as John McCain did with his Panama City birth certificate (to US NAVY Parents), no one would be asking the questions.
What is BO hiding? Must be Big.
O’s trip to Hawaii stinks to high heaven. How is granny? Why no follow up about her health? Where are the pictures taken by the people with O? Who were the people with O?
Just crazy.
A Colonel? You can't become a first lieutenant in 143 duty days. The time has not been less than 365 days in a long long time. I think it was a year for the Army during Vietnam, it was 18 months for the Air Force. But by the time I was commissioned, '73, it was 2 years for all the services. That's at least 479 duty days.( 30 days leave/year and figuring only 5 days per week of duty, but of course that's the absolute minimum, often exceeded)
The other problem is that if he was not born in Hawaii, but instead Kenya as his relatives there seem to assert, he would normally also be a US born citizen because of his mother’s status.
However, that is not true either because she did not maintain US residency for ten years when she moved to Indonesia. This was the law of the United States at the time.
Barack may have assumed he was a US citizen all his life until he started researching these technicalities.
Indeed, why did he travel to Pakistan in 1981 on an Indonesian passport?
(It was against the law in 1981 for US citizens to travel to Pakistan, btw.)
All this is very very strange.
He could dispel all the rumors by being forthright. But when has he ever done so. I don't see some great conspiracy. Just a little lying politician that doesn't want the electorate to know what he is really all about. That is reason enough to keep him out of The White House.
Will he during his “Truman Show” broadcast make a comment that what we need today is Unity and a well traveled world Messiah is what America says no matter what the slimers say. Heck they might even say I was born on Mars...Ha Ha Ha!
When I was an Individual Mobilization Augmentee AF reservist, I was required to keep a copy of not only my birth certificate, but those of my children, and a copy of my marriage certificate in my "Go to War" packet. Mine is still in there. The others have since been pressed into other services. College admission, new employment, etc.
In the past two weeks, I have investigated and obtained death certificates for relatives, for genealogical purposes, and it cost but a small fee. Several months ago I did the same for a birth certificate (person still living). The questions asked were simple and easy to answer. I tried this with Obama … come up with “name unknown”?
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