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How to vote more than once
various websites ^ | 10/28/2008 | Karl M. Kindt III

Posted on 10/29/2008 2:17:15 PM PDT by knightforhire

MU students voted more than once, survey finds Freshman says he did it to draw attention to 'screwed up' system By LINDA SPICE and JESSE GARZA of the Journal Sentinel staff

A Marquette University freshman who said he was one of 174 students who told a campus newspaper they cast multiple presidential ballots said he doesn't fear prosecution if it highlights the holes he found in the political system. "I wanted to make the point that the system is screwed up here," said the student, 18, who asked not to be named. "I hope people can recognize the system is flawed, and if a poor college kid with no resources can manipulate the system, a person with an agenda and who wants to get things done - think how easily they can manipulate the system."

The Marquette Tribune, the university's student newspaper, surveyed 1,000 students and found 174 admitted voting more than once, said Michael McGraw, the Tribune's metro news desk editor.

(Excerpt) Read more at 2.jsonline.com ...


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fraud; voterfraud; voting
Here are the ways you can vote more than once and become a felon who might get prosecuted: 1. as a student vote absentee in your home state and register in the state where you are going to school and vote there - there apparently is no national database for election officials to check if you have voted in a different state 2. go to different precincts in your own state and register under your own name but present some fake address ID such as a doctored up phone bill scanned into the computer with a different address on it - you can vote in each precinct and the judges do not have a list of those who have voted in other precincts 3. before the election establish an address with a friend on a campus in a different state - just have one bill you pay with that as the address and take that with you to register and most of the time you get to vote in that precinct 4. there are 15 other ways to get to vote more than once and the odds of you getting caught because of the way the system is designed by those who want you to be able to cheat for their candidate are near zero

How to fix this system: 1. establish a national online database of those who have registered along with scanned copies of the ID they have presented and provides this to the judges at all polling places so they can check voters against the national database 2. students may NOT register in the precinct they are living in during school but must vote only absentee and in the state where they have a legal address and have a system setup to establish that the person has only one legal address they are using 3. Use state photo ids - make them free - when you go to register your photo is taken, your ss# is taken and these go into a national database put online for the judges

any other ideas how to stop this fraud??

1 posted on 10/29/2008 2:17:16 PM PDT by knightforhire
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To: knightforhire

capital punishment. chemical sterilization. barry manilow DVDs.


2 posted on 10/29/2008 2:22:05 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: knightforhire

Knew about the students voting absentee in their home state and in person where they go to college. The other I never thought about.

Time to end all the early voting, absentee voting without a reason, and establish a national database of voters. Aristole already has one for campaigns to buy.


3 posted on 10/29/2008 2:22:05 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: knightforhire

And, let’s cross-check obituaries against voter rolls. A friend of mine died in August 2007, and is still shown on the county voter rolls as an active voter. Wonder if anyone requested an absentee ballot for him?


4 posted on 10/29/2008 2:23:11 PM PDT by RightField (A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well,.)
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To: knightforhire

No more early voting. Very limited absentee voting (like the troops). Purple fingers on election day for everyone else.


5 posted on 10/29/2008 2:23:44 PM PDT by Unkosified (What do Osama and Obama have in common? They both have friends that bombed the Pentagon.)
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To: knightforhire

And to think a bottle of ink would fix it, save the issue of mail-in ballots but that could be worked on.


6 posted on 10/29/2008 2:24:16 PM PDT by rvoitier
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To: knightforhire

A high level Disney exec gleefully told me during 2004 how her brother voted in numberous states as he took a road trip across the country.


7 posted on 10/29/2008 2:25:17 PM PDT by prolifefirst
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To: knightforhire

Yes. As in your #1, require every American to re-register to vote before the 2010 election. Require a birth certificate (or naturalization papers), proof of residence and a photo ID.


8 posted on 10/29/2008 2:26:22 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Taxman

I’m thinking of not shaving from now through 11-5, voting at 7:00 am here in California, dressing in a creative way, flying to Cleveland, and voting multiple times using multiple names and multiple park benches as my address. I’m hard pressed to see how that particular fraud could be detected.


9 posted on 10/29/2008 2:31:48 PM PDT by p. henry
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To: knightforhire

Marquette is where in either 2004 or 2000 students were bragging of multiple votes as well.


10 posted on 10/29/2008 2:34:04 PM PDT by jdub
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To: rvoitier
"And to think a bottle of ink would fix it, save the issue of mail-in ballots but that could be worked on."

I voted absentee in Virginia due to disability. That said, it IS a "mail-in" ballot. However, the system in my county seems very good. [NOTE: I don't know if it is stste-wide]. I first have to request a absentee form and it has my (long held) voter registration number and it requires all personal information including birth date, SSI number etc before I ever get a ballot. Then, when I get the ballot, both the inner and outer envelope have my address and voter registration number on the outside under my name. It seems pretty secure.

BTW, I asked my registrar about the double voting concerns and she told me that any college student that registers to vote in the county/precinct here in Virginia as a Virginian, a card is then sent to their registrar at their hometown to state that they are registered here and should not be granted an absentee ballot. Sounded good to me, but who know what a registrar in another state would do with that card and info?

11 posted on 10/29/2008 2:44:54 PM PDT by KriegerGeist (I'm now considered a "Bitter Clinger" to my guns and religion.)
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To: Unkosified
No more early voting. Very limited absentee voting.

I don’t know, but in my county we have gone to 100% vote by mail. It seems to be working quite well as it is easy to see which voters are connected to which address. Easy to spot fraud.

12 posted on 10/29/2008 2:45:46 PM PDT by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: PhiKapMom

I’m in favor of 2 maybe 3 days of voting, but that is ALL.
Also, a deadline of Sept. 1 (or sooner) for new voter registration. Jeez, how many days pass between elections?
Talk about procrasination!(Are people such frigging procrastinators that they cannot seem to register until the day they are supposed to vote?)

Then all new registrations must be checked against a national database.

I think THIS was one of W’s biggest f-ups, not securing the voting system in this country and allowing the “election cluster” we are now witnessing.


13 posted on 10/29/2008 2:45:50 PM PDT by a real Sheila (Obama lied and my 401K died!)
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To: usurper

I don’t know, but in my county we have gone to 100% vote by mail. It seems to be working quite well as it is easy to see which voters are connected to which address. Easy to spot fraud.

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How do they know how many ballots are “lost” by rabid Obama postal personnel?


14 posted on 10/29/2008 2:50:26 PM PDT by Unkosified (What do Osama and Obama have in common? They both have friends that bombed the Pentagon.)
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To: knightforhire
Capital punishment.

Zero recidivism.

15 posted on 10/29/2008 2:50:55 PM PDT by meadsjn (Socialists promote neighbors selling out their neighbors; Free Traitors promote just the opposite.)
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To: jdub; knightforhire

The article is from 2000. The OP should have pointed that out.


16 posted on 10/29/2008 2:53:51 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: meadsjn

Easiest solution is to take a thumb scan when you register to vote. When you go to vote you scan your thumb to prove who you are. It also flags you as having voted, and will not allow you to vote till the ext election.


17 posted on 10/29/2008 2:54:35 PM PDT by Nashvegas (What do you get if you offer a liberal a penny for their thoughts? Change)
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To: knightforhire

This really isn’t new in Wisconsin and I imagine that college students are doing this as well as party aparachiks across the nation.


18 posted on 10/29/2008 3:00:47 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
The article is from 2000. The OP should have pointed that out.

Grrr... I even checked the title, and this posts lists it as 2008. i didn't bother going to the article itself.

19 posted on 10/29/2008 3:05:45 PM PDT by jdub
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To: Taxman
Yes. As in your #1, require every American to re-register to vote before the 2010 election. Require a birth certificate (or naturalization papers), proof of residence and a photo ID.

And a notarized essay/thesis on why capitalism is morally superior to other systems both applied and theoretic, and why a constitutional republic is superior to and different from a democracy.

You fail *either* of those, you go sit at home watching your TiVo'd Dancing with the Stars show while the Americans vote.
20 posted on 10/29/2008 3:11:04 PM PDT by Infidel Puppy
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To: knightforhire

any other ideas how to stop this fraud??”

Absentee ballots only for shut-in’s, etc. MUST provide a valid reason why you cannot vote in person ONLY on day of election.

NO MORE “early voting”. It is a perfect set up for a person to vote in multiple states, much less precincts.

PURPLE THUMBS


21 posted on 10/29/2008 3:24:37 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: RightField

And, let’s cross-check obituaries against voter rolls. A friend of mine died in August 2007, and is still shown on the county voter rolls as an active voter. Wonder if anyone requested an absentee ballot for him?”

I believe that one of the basic methods of purging the voter rolls is death notices. The tracking on whether this gets done is mute.


22 posted on 10/29/2008 3:26:21 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Taxman
Yes. As in your #1, require every American to re-register to vote before the 2010 election. Require a birth certificate (or naturalization papers), proof of residence and a photo ID.

Which would bar Obama from voting because he refuses to show his actual Birth Certificate; to-date, he's only shown a 2007 print-out of his "Certification of live birth," not a notarized vault copy of his "Certificate of Live Birth." BIG difference.
23 posted on 10/29/2008 3:26:27 PM PDT by TexasGreg ("Democrats Piss Me Off")
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To: knightforhire
establish a national online database of those who have registered...

Republicans have been slitting their own throats for 20 years by caving in to every Democrat bill that made it easier for illegals, hobo's, fraudsters, and unions to pack voter registrations with fake names.

This is THE best example of Republicans. This and caving to amnesty and increased illegal immigration.

WAKE UP GOP!!

24 posted on 10/29/2008 4:35:20 PM PDT by Edit35 (.)
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To: knightforhire

any other ideas how to stop this fraud??

Roman decimation.

Hanging.

Open season.

Boil in oil.

Honor duels.


25 posted on 10/29/2008 5:34:22 PM PDT by sergeantdave (We are entering the Age of the Idiot)
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To: knightforhire

C & P from my homepage

A few of my posts say something like I will be voting more than once this coming election cycle. Let them try to catch me. I want Democrats reading my posts to feel the same outrage that I feel, as I watch the fraud that disenfranchises me. Watch the numbers in the county’s of Wisconsin that border Illinois. I predict that there will be more voters in some districts than the voting age population living in them. It’s not illegal to say you’re going to vote early & often.


26 posted on 10/29/2008 6:02:25 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Edit35
Wisconsin Republicans passed a voter ID bill. Our Donk Gov vetoed it.
27 posted on 10/29/2008 6:07:51 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: knightforhire

No Death Certificate issued until deceased has been removed from Voter list.


28 posted on 10/29/2008 7:20:13 PM PDT by HP8753 (Live Free!!!! .............or don't.)
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To: p. henry

FRaudulent votes will probably decide the election outcome.


29 posted on 10/29/2008 7:28:46 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: ridesthemiles

A national voter registration list is needed. When a person registers from a particular address and must give SS number then this database would be available online to the judges when someone comes into register. Couple this system with photo IDS and you would eliminate 98% of the fraud.


30 posted on 10/30/2008 8:50:53 AM PDT by knightforhire (racism one humanity)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Please note that I did not say that the info was from 2008 just that I am posting it in 2008 and also have tried to cite this as just one documented example of how this kind of fraud is perpetrated. I could cite a thousand websites where this kind of fraud is documented going back many years. The system is like it is because Democrats use it as a part of their strategy - I mean the idea is that so many poor people, especially blacks, were not permitted to vote years ago so now it is time to let them vote more than once.


31 posted on 10/30/2008 8:55:22 AM PDT by knightforhire (racism one humanity)
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