There would be no reason for DOH in Hawaii to have a copy of Obama’s birth certificate if he was not born there. Sorry I have no intention of voting for the guy but give this issue a rest. The way the State handles this is how many States do. You are not an interested party you do not have access to the records. Can you imagine the increased identity theft if anyone could see anybody’s birth certificate?
The fact remains that Obama is playing cutesy about the BC. There is no reason for us not to be able to see the BC. He needs to authorize it.
That's what I was asking. If that's true, then you are correct.
Sorry I have no intention of voting for the guy but give this issue a rest.
I've never thought it was likely, myself. I just found this article (and the AP article) strange. Maybe it's my Clinton radar going off -- I notice when people choose their words carefully and appear to give non-answers.
The way the State handles this is how many States do. You are not an interested party you do not have access to the records. Can you imagine the increased identity theft if anyone could see anybody’s birth certificate?
Believe me, I understand the problem -- after my birth certificate was stolen, I've had to monitor my credit files.
I needed to provide my birth certificate to get a driver's license. If I didn't provide it, then I couldn't drive. Same should hold true for Obama seeking the Presidency. If he doesn't provide it, he shouldn't be allowed to be President.
I'm NOT? Now, I am a LOT more concerned about his anti-American policies, his socialistic ideas and his affiliation with racists and terrorists.
But to say that I am not an interested party is complete BS.
I AM AN AMERICAN CITIZEN, AND HE IS RUNNING FOR THE PRESIDENCY. HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE MUST BE A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD IF THERE IS ANY DOUBT HE IS A LEGITIMATE CANDIDATE AS OUTLINED BY THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.
Do I sound pissed off? I AM. And I DAMN WELL SHOULD BE, as should EVERY AMERICAN WHO MAY HAVE TO LIVE UNDER HIS POLICIES.
WE ARE "INTERESTED PARTIES" for GOD'S SAKE.
Nothing personal against YOU, but this is another case of GOVERNMENT not being BY the people FOR the people.
I've never been a fan of this issue either. IF it was real, the Clinton gang would have pulled it out before the Convention. I suspect there might be something considered 'embarrassing' in that perhaps he was a bastard, or his middle name was Muhammad, or some such -- but none of that would be the baby's fault and dredging it up would just bring sympathy.
But still - do these Government drones need to speak gobbledygoop? Couldn't they just say: 'We've seen the records. He was born in Hawaii'.
Why do I need a fricken' decoder ring to interpret:
""Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai'i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai'i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."
What does all that mean?
I agree - move on. There are bigger and better reasons to flush Mr. Obama (and yet, to keep him in our prayers -- this poor young man is confused and headed towards perdition)... But this is still unbelievable. We still can't get a straight answer that someone running for President is actually eligible.
I believe HI allows you to register births from other areas, so, it could legitimately have the original birth cert even though HI wasn’t the origin of that birth cert.
Frankly, I trust no one who might be on Obama's side. I suppose this is parsing, but what is meant by "Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures." What is the policy?
It may well be much ado about nothing but isn't it a coincidence that Obama went to Hawaii to spend a mere hour with his "dying" grandma and what do you know..............a few days later someone is vouching for the BC?
I'm suspicious of every breath he takes.
Every voter, in this case, has a "vested interest" in the proof of Obama's citizenship status, as the office of President of the US is the sole one that requires "natural-born" citizen status for said office. So ANYBODY absolutely SHOULD be able to see the birth records of any candidate for the presidency.
that is not accurate. I have duplicate with the state of NJ which replaced my one issued in Italy. My NJ one says it is a replacement and has my adoptive father on it.
“You are not an interested party you do not have access to the records. Can you imagine the increased identity theft if anyone could see anybody’s birth certificate?”
Every American citizen is an, “Interested party.”
No one is asking that everyone be allowed to see it, only a Federal Judge who could then make a determination.
So, no, we won’t and shouldn’t give it a rest.
Births that have not occurred in Hawaii can be registered in Hawaii with something called a “Certification of Live Birth”.
On the other hand, if he only had a certification but was adopted by his Indonesian stepfather while a small child, then the certification would be sealed and a birth certificate would be issued with his adopted parents’ names on it.
Either way, the situation smells fishy.
Because, quite simply, if he was born in Hawaii and was a natural born citizen there would be NO REASON TO HOLD BACK ON PUBLICLY EXHIBITING HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE, period.
Since all you have to do to get one is file for it, you get a COLB, not a birth certificate, it is more like an announcement. The COLB we have seen posted on Obama's web site is an obvious forgery.
We have not seen anything that resembles a Birth Certificate. A Birth Certificate has specific details about the birth, doctor, parents, location, date and time, foot prints, and any medical procedures that were required.
If you choose to be ignorant of the facts, then there is no value in your comments.
Wrong. There is a provision in the Hawaii statutes which enables a Hawaii resident to register the out-of-state birth of a newborn with the Hawaii authorities. Obama's mother or maternal grandparents could have availed themselves of such an opportunity, in which case a copy of a Kenyan birth certificate could have been filed with the paperwork presented to the Hawaii state government. In this scenario, the Hawaii DOH would indeed have possession of the birth certificate, but he would not have been born in the US.
Teh don’t need to release “certified copies” to the media, or anyone else. But there is no reason that an interested party cannot view the original to verify the accuracy of any information that mey be contradictory to the statements of a figure liek Obama. The idea that someone would commit identity fraud on Obama is a straw man argument.