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Two pre-marked ballots discovered at precinct (CA)
The Modesto Bee ^ | November 04, 2008 12:09:24 PM | J.N. Sbranti

Posted on 11/04/2008 12:26:16 PM PST by keat

OAKDALE — At least two Spanish-language ballots were pre-marked for Barack Obama at a rural Oakdale precinct Tuesday morning, causing election officials to confiscate and inspect all the blank ballots.

"I consider this extremely serious," said Lee Lundrigan, Stanislaus County clerk and registrar of voters. "We've sent an additional person to the precinct, and everyone is now watching each other."

The incident happened about 9:20 a.m. at the River Oak Grace Community Church polling place on Rodden Road just north of Oakdale.

Hector Parra, who doesn't speak English, was handed a Spanish-language ballot, which he took to the voting station. A moment later, he went to the precinct workers seeking help. Since there was no designated translator working at the time, the precinct's staff asked if anyone in the crowded room could speak Spanish.

Sylvia Moreno volunteered to translate, and she said Parra didn't understand why the ballot he was given had been marked.

"He was going to vote for Obama, but it was already filled in for Obama," Moreno said. "He just wondered why."

Moreno explained the problem to precinct workers, who then took Parra's ballot and put it among the "spoiled" ballots. Parra then was handed a second Spanish-language ballot.

"It was marked for Obama, too. It truly was," said Moreno, who witnessed the fresh ballot being handed from the precinct worker to Parra in the middle of the room.

Parra and Moreno immediately reported the problem with the second ballot, and they never moved from the time Parra was handed that ballot to when he handed it back to precinct workers.

"I was shocked," said Lynda Sesser, the precinct's election inspector. "At first I assumed he had (filled in the first ballot) himself, which is why I marked it as spoiled."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dirtytricks; election2008; fraud; ratcrime; voterfraud
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1 posted on 11/04/2008 12:26:20 PM PST by keat
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To: keat

This is so unsurprising I’m wondering why it was even reported.


2 posted on 11/04/2008 12:31:00 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: keat

I’m sure this is probably pretty common in foreign-language voting places. I once worked at a polling place in SF where most of the voters were Chinese and the ballots were in Chinese (which I don’t speak or read). Groups of Chinese leftist “activists” would bring in non-English speaking voters and “vote” them, and in at least one case we saw somebody who had brought a group of elderly Chinese distributing ballots that I was sure had been pre-marked. Unfortunately, the precinct captain would not let us do anything.


3 posted on 11/04/2008 12:33:33 PM PST by livius
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To: keat; AuntB; Tennessee Nana

Yeah, but in some sanctuary cities, latinos are voting with Taco Bell burrito wrappers marked with an “O.”


4 posted on 11/04/2008 12:34:58 PM PST by Liz (Q. How long does a US Congressman serve? A. Until he gets caught. Carnac (Johnny Carson))
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To: keat

Here’s another question. How does somebody who doesn’t speak English get to vote? You have to be a citizen to vote, and you have to be able to speak English to become a citizen. I can understand not being able to read all the ballot stuff in English, but this guy doesn’t even speak English.


5 posted on 11/04/2008 12:36:27 PM PST by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: ought-six
Yeah, but Oakdale?

I know Oakdale, I left my gallbladder in Oakdale. I remember it as pretty conservative.

Granted most of the time I was there I was on morphine, but still, it isn't anything like Oakland!

6 posted on 11/04/2008 12:37:46 PM PST by null and void (This isn't an election, it's a manifestation of a Salvador Dali painting.)
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To: Liz
"O'' on a Taco Bell wrapper? Extra ONIONS?

Oakdale is a small community. Stupid to try this in an area like that. Doubtful it was the work of a group.

7 posted on 11/04/2008 12:43:00 PM PST by informavoracious (Oust all incumbents.)
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To: Hoffer Rand; Liz; AuntB

How does somebody who doesn’t speak English get to vote?
_____________________________________

ROFLMBO


8 posted on 11/04/2008 12:43:34 PM PST by Tennessee Nana (McCain/Palin Now that's a ticket that deserves a tagline)
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To: ought-six
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9 posted on 11/04/2008 12:45:22 PM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Hoffer Rand
Here’s another question. How does somebody who doesn’t speak English get to vote?

Two words: Puerto Rico.

Originally Spanish language ballots were provided because there are Spanish only speakers who are US citizens by virtue of Puerto Rico being a US territory.

Then guess what?

The courts decided that since Puerto Ricans could live anywhere in the US, everyone had to have access to Spanish language materials.

Then guess what?

The courts decided that this discriminated against Urdu only speakers, so...

10 posted on 11/04/2008 12:45:41 PM PST by null and void (This isn't an election, it's a manifestation of a Salvador Dali painting.)
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To: keat
"I was shocked," said Lynda Sesser, the precinct's election inspector.

Yeah, shocked it was 1) discovered and 2) reported.
11 posted on 11/04/2008 12:50:26 PM PST by SparkyBass
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To: null and void

Your gallbladder may have been registered to vote. I heard a Phillips screwdriver voted in St. Louis. But, you’re right: Oakdale is quite different from Oakland; for now, anyway.


12 posted on 11/04/2008 12:51:23 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: keat

Why aren’t these “spoiled” ballots being shredded on the spot?

These people are handing out pre-marked ballots as new and now we are asked to believe that a pile of “spoiled” ballots will not be counted “by mistake”?

Please...


13 posted on 11/04/2008 1:00:15 PM PST by hattend (Sarah is the merchandise I'm buying, McCain is the mail-in rebate. He's part of the deal.)
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To: keat

Call me xenophobic, but there should not be any such thing as a foreign language ballot in a U.S. election.


14 posted on 11/04/2008 1:05:40 PM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (I voted for America today. Did you?)
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To: livius
Unfortunately, the precinct captain would not let us do anything.

BULL. That's when you call the police.

15 posted on 11/04/2008 1:17:23 PM PST by newzjunkey (*** MCCAIN-PALIN *** CA: YES on PROP 4.)
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To: keat

I know the man interviewed in the FOX news clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCeD1RcJjAg

cell phone video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU

Police confront the Panthers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFOKnJ0oXYY


16 posted on 11/04/2008 1:19:46 PM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: Hoffer Rand
You have to be a citizen to vote, and you have to be able to speak English to become a citizen. I can understand not being able to read all the ballot stuff in English, but this guy doesn’t even speak English.

He could've been born here. There was a long time English emersion for ESL students was forbidden. Even now it can be circumvented. Further, it's widely known the English proficiency requirement is being bypassed via a loophole in citizenship laws. Since classic slavery is explicitly unconstitutional Balkanization helps the Democrats meet their aims just the same.

17 posted on 11/04/2008 1:22:08 PM PST by newzjunkey (*** MCCAIN-PALIN *** CA: YES on PROP 4.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
No, you are not xenophobic. You are correct. English is our language. We only add unnecessary burden and increased fraud by requiring multiple interpretations of the orginal.

I hate ACORN with all my being.

18 posted on 11/04/2008 1:22:58 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (NOBAMA - it is for our future)
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To: keat

bttt


19 posted on 11/04/2008 1:28:57 PM PST by comps4spice (Go Vote! No stay-at-home "principled" conservatives/libertarians today! The stakes are too high!)
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To: newzjunkey

Every recent change in voter ID, voter registration, and voting arrangements has been deliberately designed toincrease the number of democrat ballots counted.

not necessarily the number of democrat citizens voting, but certainly the number of democrat ballots counted.


20 posted on 11/04/2008 1:36:00 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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