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Posted on 11/06/2008 5:58:46 AM PST by NYer
James Dobson may be the only Evangelical whose Sunday school teacher apparently never warned him to be careful what he prayed for. Two weeks before Election Day, the Focus on the Family founder chatted with Sarah Palin on his radio show and shared his backup plan for the struggling GOP ticket. He was, Dobson told her, praying for "God's intervention" and that "God's perfect will be done on November the 4th."
Unless Dobson has undergone a dramatic political conversion, it's safe to assume he does not consider Barack Obama's election on Tuesday to be divinely ordained. In June, Dobson delivered a furious broadside against the Democrat, charging that he was "deliberately distorting the traditional understanding of the Bible to fit his own world view." And yet in a year in which the economy mattered more than social issues for most voters, Obama's comfortable victory included Democratic gains in every single religious category among the electorate.
John McCain's selection of Palin, a former Pentecostal Christian, as his running mate was supposed to help strengthen his appeal to religious voters. Republican strategists knew that undecided religious voters broke heavily for George W. Bush in the last weeks of the 2004 campaign, and they hoped Palin's candidacy would sway those voters to the GOP again this year. Instead, those late deciders — including white Evangelicals — appear to have split between Obama and McCain.
Nationally, Obama captured 53% of the Catholic vote, a 13-point swing from 2004 and the largest advantage among the group for a Democrat since Bill Clinton. Obama also cut in half the Republican advantage among Protestants. And he made significant gains among regular worship attenders. Voters who attend religious services most frequently are still most likely to cast ballots for Republicans.
(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...
The main reason is geography. The largest percentage of white Evangelicals are in Southern states that were never in play for Democrats. They were therefore never part of any outreach effort — Obama's 50-state strategy didn't involve sending campaign staff to organize Alabama Bible colleges. Instead, the Obama camp focused its energy on a handful of battleground states with sizable Evangelical populations, including Colorado, Indiana and Michigan.
In those target states, Obama both outperformed his national average among white Evangelicals and chipped away at the GOP's 2004 advantage. In Michigan, where the state party began building relationships with social conservatives in the western half of the state during the 2006 election cycle, Obama won 33% of the white Evangelical vote, a 12-point shift from 2004. The campaign's Evangelical outreach coordinator spent the last weeks of the race in tightly-contested Indiana, with impressive results — 30% of the state's white Evangelicals voted for Obama (a 14-point gain), and the Democrat split the Catholic vote with McCain (a 13-point gain).
While I do find it hard to grasp some how geniune "evangelicals" could cast their ballot for Obama, I'm blown away that 53% of Catholics supported this guy and his positions. Is the Catholic church tanking?
Amy Sullivan is a typical scoffing fool.
God’s perfect will was done.
This nation is under God’s judgement for murdering millions of innocent babies.
God’s greatest curse to the living is, “I will cut off your generations.” This is a nation that has volunteered for that curse, through the election of liberal presidents and congresses that placed liberal chowderheads on the Supreme Court.
As “Rev.” Wright would say, “Americas chickens have come home to roost.”
Amy Sullivan will probably never get it. Even when her world is collapsing around her. Unless there is Divine Intervention in her life, to lead her to Christ, she will never, and could never, understand.
This sentence is all the proof needed to show how very little the Drive-Bys know about evangelicals. They consider God to be at work in all elections...not that God is necessarily pleased with the selection of BO, but that He is definitely at WORK in his occupation of the White House. His hand--not Barack's--is what guides the nations.
Oh, I'm sure Obama is the man God wanted for this nation at this time. But then, Hitler was the man God wanted for Germany at that time.
But never fear. God took down Hitler when God determined that it was time, and he will do the same with Obama.
I'll just go ahead and say it. Anyone that puts support behind a man that champions the “right” to murder innocents in the womb isn't a true Christian.
There is a sort of “moral equivalency” that has crept into our thinking. We’ve come to believe that one issue is just as weighty as another. Or that one set of issues balances out another. That we are free therefore to pick and choose according to those things which “matter to us.” But we know that some moral questions are far weightier than others. For example, issues of life and death are far more significant than economic reforms we might like to see. To see such a large number of “Evangelicals” and Catholics voting for Obama is indeed discouraging. Nonetheless, God has indeed ordained this outcome, and we have yet to see what will result.
Rev 17:7
And those who dwell on the earth will marvel, whose names are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world, when they see the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.[c]
People vote with their pocket books...wrongly this time as they did not understand the dynamic set in motion by the democrats that caused this recession. If people feel their money is safe, they will vote their religious and moral beliefs...if not they take care of their families finances first.
Obama denied his infanticide views and softened his abortion views. Many “christians” fell for his lies.
I believe we will not receive God’s blessing, as a nation, while we continue to murder babies and encourage, condone homosexual behavior. I did not use the word “punish”, we will not be the benefactor of His mercy.
We have not hit rock-bottom yet - not even close. It will take much, much more to end the above horrible activities in this country. How far we have fallen.
Why would they change their headline to mean the exact opposite from what they had yesterday? Odd.
Amy Sullivan is a typical scoffing fool.
God’s perfect will was done.
This nation is under God’s judgement for murdering millions of innocent babies.
God’s greatest curse to the living is, “I will cut off your generations.” This is a nation that has volunteered for that curse, through the election of liberal presidents and congresses that placed liberal chowderheads on the Supreme Court.
Amy Sullivan will probably never get it. Even when her world is collapsing around her. Unless there is Divine Intervention in her life, to lead her to Christ, she will never, and could never, understand.
You said very clearly what I was planning to say. I've embolded a few phrases and deleted one. Otherwise, my thoughts echo yours.
God's son is to reign not some republican president. The lesson here may be that we have looked to hard to the GOP and not enough to God. I for one am guilty.
Yes.
“God took down Hitler when God determined that it was time, and he will do the same with Obama. “
Your sentence is so true. Obama is not Gods will but the peoples will. It is a statement on our affairs as a nation...and sometimes God allows us to drown in this in order to cleanse us. OJ Simpson is living the example of finally paying dues and sitting in a jail cell, finally. Both of his legal eagles (Johnny Cochran and Kardashian) have died...God is in control and I have faith in him, not the people.
I totally agree with you in ways I simply cannot express here. Good for you. Nice to know others may be receiving the message too.
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