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1 posted on 11/08/2008 11:29:25 PM PST by Brown Deer
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To: Brown Deer

http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin84.htm

Here is a link to a comprehensive description of the Birth Certificate issue. (it was posted before but this is too important to let it rest.)


2 posted on 11/08/2008 11:42:23 PM PST by CaraM (Faithless is he who quits when the road darkens.)
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To: Brown Deer; Calpernia; Kevmo; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; Polarik; PhilDragoo; ...

Thanks, Brown Deer. After our respite, it’s back to work, again.

Ping.


3 posted on 11/08/2008 11:49:10 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Brown Deer

Below is a link to a Petition for Obama to release his Birth Certificate. PLEASE sign it and pass it on to your whole entire email list.
Also, PLEASE print out hardcopies for your State Senators and Representatives to actually snail mail or fax them.
Links to Congressional names and addresses are attached.

Another idea I saw on another blog earlier today was to send these petitions to the electorates THIS MONTH, before they give their votes to B.O. in December!!!

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/


4 posted on 11/08/2008 11:51:39 PM PST by CaraM (Faithless is he who quits when the road darkens.)
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To: Brown Deer

Perhaps it’ll inspire someone in the clerk’s office in Honolulu to “come up with one.” I’d be perfectly comfortable with surreptitiously (spelling?) obtaining a copy and swapping it for a cool million if it could all be done under the table. No names, no income to report, no Zerobama thugs chasing after me. Maybe one of da local bruddas can do da same.


5 posted on 11/08/2008 11:53:07 PM PST by Two Kids' Dad (((( Regardless of what it is... I just want the truth to be made public ))))
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To: Brown Deer

That video on YouTube has the birth year as 1963. I thought he was born in 1961.


7 posted on 11/09/2008 12:01:09 AM PST by Hanna548 (s)
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To: Brown Deer

I thought a government official has stated that it does exist. The governor of Hawaii has placed it under seal.

Exactly what it shows is still undetermined.


8 posted on 11/09/2008 12:02:48 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Brown Deer

Where is his dual citizenship documents?


9 posted on 11/09/2008 12:06:39 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Aleutica, the new name of Free Alaska)
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To: Brown Deer

Offer the same for the Kenyan equiavalent (and get the word out in Kenya) if it hmmm exists


12 posted on 11/09/2008 12:13:37 AM PST by volslover
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To: Brown Deer
God Bless, Secret of the Rosary Films.

I am glad this isn't over and the fat lady hasn't sung yet.


14 posted on 11/09/2008 12:33:02 AM PST by SouthDixie (We are but angels with one wing, it takes two to fly.)
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To: Brown Deer; pissant

Pissant my FRiend!

*PING*, this is right up your alley!

I’ll go these folks one better, and I will personally offer TWO million dollars to Larry Sinclair if HE can produce a legitimate, legal certified copy of the long form of 0bama’s original certificate of birth, how ‘bout that?

Watch for these folks to end up on the ‘0bama Death List’, coming your way realllll soon.


16 posted on 11/09/2008 2:16:11 AM PST by mkjessup (Over 57 million *real* Americans said "NO EFFIN WAY" to Comrade 0bama & the 0bamunist Party.)
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To: Brown Deer
>>>Obamas Kenyan grandmother stated he was born in Kenya.

Barack Nate Dhalani

17 posted on 11/09/2008 2:47:58 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Brown Deer
I Found it!


Where's my cash?

19 posted on 11/09/2008 3:12:13 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: HungarianGypsy

ping


33 posted on 11/09/2008 4:58:43 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Brown Deer; All

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/has_obamas_birth_certificate_been_disclosed.html

Link to a copy of the Birth Certificate Obama released. This is from Fact Check.
Correct me if I’m wrong. But can somebody dig up the item about Obama’s sister. She was (undisputedly) born in Indonesia and she also has a Hawaiian issued birth certificate, just like B.O. has. Their mother simply applied for it.

So, this document that you will see isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on. I have no doubt that the state of Hawaii issued it, but an Indonesian was able to get one just like it.


36 posted on 11/09/2008 5:35:21 AM PST by CaraM (Faithless is he who quits when the road darkens.)
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ELECTION 2008
Is Obama’s candidacy constitutional?
Secrecy over birth certificate, demand for ‘natural-born’ citizenship cited


Posted: June 10, 2008
9:44 pm Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily

Barack Obama

Bloggers are raising questions about Illinois Sen. Barack Obama’s qualifications to be U.S. president, because of the secrecy over his birth certificate and the requirement presidents be “natural-born” U.S. citizens.

Jim Geraghty, reporting on the Campaign Spot, a National Review blog, cited the “unlikely” but still circulating rumor that Obama was born not within the United States, but elsewhere, possibly Kenya.

Geraghty defined the concerns most clearly, stating: “If Obama were born outside the United States, one could argue that he would not meet the legal definition of natural-born citizen … because U.S. law at the time of his birth required his natural-born parent (his mother) to have resided in the United States for ‘10 years, at least [f]ive of which had to be after the age of 16.’”

He then points out Ann Dunham, Obama’s mother, was 18 when Obama was born “so she wouldn’t have met the requirement of five years after the age of 16.”

Geraghty continues: “ (Interestingly, apparently there isn’t much paperwork on Obama’s parents’ marriage. ‘Obama: From Promise to Power,’ page. 27: ‘Obama later confessed that he never searched for the government documents on the marriage, although Madelyn (Obama’s maternal grandmother) insisted they were legally married.’ Also note that Obama’s father apparently was not legally divorced from his first wife back in Kenya at the time, a point of contention that ultimately led to their separation.)”

The reports released to date show Obama was born in Honolulu to Barack Hussein Obama Sr., of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Kenya, and Ann Dunham, of Wichita, Kan.

According to FindLaw.com, which is cited by Geraghty, the requirements that were in force from Dec. 24, 1952 to Nov. 13, 1986, encompassing the time of Obama’s birth state, “If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least 10 years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.”

Obama’s father, a student sent to the United States from Africa, lived several places in the United States while attending class. He then returned to his homeland. Obama’s mother later married another man and moved to Indonesia.

Geraghty said the Obama campaign could “debunk” the rumors about his birth simply by releasing a copy of his birth certificate, but the campaign has so far chosen not to do that.

“The campaign cited the birth certificate in their ‘Fact Check’ on William Ayers, so presumably, someone in the campaign has access to it,” he said.

Hawaii doesn’t make public information from birth certificates.

“If the concern of the Obama campaign is that the certificate includes his Social Security number or some other data that could be useful to identity thieves, that information could easily be blocked out and the rest released. (Although I wonder if identity thieves would find Obama a tougher than usual target, since using the name on purchases would almost inevitably bring closer scrutiny.),” Geraghty said.

The Obama campaign repeatedly has declined to respond to WND requests for comment.

The presumptive Republican nominee for president, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., already has gone through the same type of challenge, and the U.S. Senate responded with a resolution in April declaring him to be a “’natural born Citizen’ under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.”

That article declares that “no person except a natural born citizen … shall be eligible to the Office of president.”

McCain was challenged because he was born to two U.S. citizens in the Panama Canal Zone.

According to a report from Michael Dobbs on The Fact Checker, the McCain campaign consulted two leading jurists, Theodore Olsen and Laurence Tribe, and they agreed.

“They argue that McCain is a natural born citizen because the United States exercised sovereignty over the Panama Canal at the time of his birth on August 29, 1936, he was born on a U.S. military base, and both of his parents were U.S. citizens,” the report said.

Others say the issue isn’t quite that simple, and the matter could be resolved fully only by a constitutional amendment or a U.S. Supreme Court ruling.

I found it here: http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66787


37 posted on 11/09/2008 5:46:17 AM PST by CaraM (Faithless is he who quits when the road darkens.)
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To: Brown Deer; All

The Obama camp points to the Birth Certificate which was released and which was checked by the people at Fact Check.
I don’t doubt that Hawaii released the SHORT form Birth Certificate.

Again, I read somewhere that Obama’s sister has one just like it, because their mother applied for it. Obama’s sister was born in Indonesia. Can somebody dig up the source for that?

Here is a link to Obama’s SHORT form Birth Certificate with Seal.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html


38 posted on 11/09/2008 6:05:44 AM PST by CaraM (Faithless is he who quits when the road darkens.)
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To: Brown Deer

I hate to point this out, but the million will never be paid, because the Supreme Court doesn’t certify birth certificates.


43 posted on 11/09/2008 10:21:08 AM PST by solfour
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To: Brown Deer; LucyT

Look to Mumbasa, Kenya.


47 posted on 11/09/2008 11:29:49 AM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Brown Deer; freekitty; Piquaboy; justiceseeker93; Arrowhead1952; Old Sarge; ladyvet; BossLady; ...

Who will authenticate the document since the last one was declared a forgery? Who in this country can be trust anymore?


48 posted on 11/09/2008 11:42:41 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: All

55 posted on 11/10/2008 4:18:36 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Aleutica, the new name of Free Alaska)
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