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South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford: Conservatives didn't lose election, GOP did
CNN ^ | November 11th, 2008 | Mark Sanford

Posted on 11/11/2008 6:11:43 PM PST by MadIsh32

COLUMBIA, South Carolina (CNN) -- For all Americans, this election represents another glass ceiling broken, and in the words of my 16-year-old, "That's very cool." The election of the first black president is an inspiring and transformational moment for our country.

I am happy for President-elect Barack Obama, and for many who supported him. They and, in many cases, their ancestors fought for this day for centuries as they experienced first-hand the unthinkable wrong of segregation. As an American, I wish him every success.

Beyond the presidential race, it goes without saying the Republican Party took a shellacking nationally. Some on the left will say our electoral losses are a repudiation of our principles of lower taxes, smaller government and individual liberty. But Tuesday was not in fact a rejection of those principles -- it was a rejection of Republicans' failure to live up to those principles.

I believe in the Biblical notion of taking the log out of your own eye before worrying about the splinter in someone else's. Accordingly, let me focus on my own party and the way Ted Stevens personifies what went wrong in the election.

As a senior ranking Republican from Alaska, he was a proud champion of pork barrel spending and bridges to nowhere, and stayed so long that he developed a blind eye to ethical lapses that would be readily seen by scout leaders and soccer moms alike.

Republicans have campaigned on the conservative themes of lower taxes, less government and more freedom -- they just haven't governed that way. America didn't turn away from conservatism, they turned away from many who faked it.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 110th; base; bho2008; boehner; bush; conservative; deficits; epicfail; gop; mccain; mccainsfailure; mccainsfolly; mccaintruthfile; sanford
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Mark Sanford needs to be on the 2012 ticket. He GETS it in every single way, he is on point both in regards to the role of the federal gov't, to deficits, to right to life issues and is very intelligent

He will beat Obama in 2012

1 posted on 11/11/2008 6:11:44 PM PST by MadIsh32
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To: MadIsh32

“...Conservatives didn’t loose election, GOP did.”

Amen, ditto, bravo.


2 posted on 11/11/2008 6:14:42 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: upchuck; SC Swamp Fox

*** SC Ping! ***


3 posted on 11/11/2008 6:15:45 PM PST by NonLinear (McCain failed to raise the money to project the message he didn’t have.)
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To: MadIsh32

I love Mark Sanford and I love my second home (soon to be only home) in the perfect state of South Carolina.

I’m happy to see him throw his hat in the 2012 race. DeMint too, if he wants. The more conservatives, the merrier.

I still lean towards Sarah, but I really like all of the guys in the running so far. Much better than 2008.


4 posted on 11/11/2008 6:15:52 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (RNC:NEWT OR NOT ONE DAMN DIME!)
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To: MadIsh32
But Tuesday was not in fact a rejection of those principles -- it was a rejection of Republicans' failure to live up to those principles.

Bingo.

5 posted on 11/11/2008 6:16:17 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (G-d watch over and protect Sarah Palin and her family.)
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To: MadIsh32

I agree that the base is more important than independents, but the Republicans have to welcome in more libertarian ideas in order to win over the younger voters, who are now active in a larger block.


6 posted on 11/11/2008 6:19:07 PM PST by Force of Truth (The "common good" will make us all common.)
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To: MadIsh32

Headline = TOTAL TRUTH


7 posted on 11/11/2008 6:19:35 PM PST by NordP (PALIN POWER: She's Reagan in heels, Teddy Roosevelt in a dress & like Rummy at a press conference!)
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To: NonLinear; 2A Patriot; 2nd amendment mama; 4everontheRight; 77Jimmy; Abbeville Conservative; ...
South Carolina Ping

Add me to the list. | Remove me from the list.
8 posted on 11/11/2008 6:20:15 PM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Join our Folding@Home team (Team# 36120) keyword: folding)
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To: MadIsh32

One of our best and brightest Governors, period.


9 posted on 11/11/2008 6:21:11 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Force of Truth

100 percent agree

And Sanford is the one to do it. He takes pigs to the SC legislature to mock the amount of pork they want

He was on Capitol Hill telling Congress not to give states anymore bailout money

He is certainly rooted in the “campaign for liberty” but unlike Paul, has the charisma and communication skills to get the message across

This is our guy for 2012.


10 posted on 11/11/2008 6:21:17 PM PST by MadIsh32 (The token Muslim :))
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To: MadIsh32

Why do we have this endless trotting out of “I wish him every success.”

I do NOT wish him every or any success with his agenda of overturning every single abortion restriction in this land, and robbing the rich to “spread the wealth.” I also do not wish him success with his domestic army, nor anything else I can think of.

I am going to blow a gasket if I read that one more time and I’m sure I shall so....gasket, consider yourself blown.


11 posted on 11/11/2008 6:21:32 PM PST by thesetruths
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To: MadIsh32

I’ve been all for Sanford, Mark Sanford AND Fred Sanford. I’m big fans of both.


12 posted on 11/11/2008 6:22:17 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Da Coyote
Tuesday was not in fact a rejection of those principles -- it was a rejection of Republicans' failure to live up to those principles.

The party elites will never get it.

14 posted on 11/11/2008 6:22:50 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: MadIsh32

Yeah, McCain lost because he was not a conservative, and though he tried to fake it, wasn’t able to convey conservative ideals. The easiest way McCain could have destroyed O’s 95% argument was to counter with “100% of Americans will not see their taxes raised.... 100%”


15 posted on 11/11/2008 6:23:13 PM PST by WatchYourself (Give me Something... ANYTHING!)
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To: MadIsh32
A MASTERFUL speech.

I LOVE this guy. He hit the nail right on the head.

I think its really time for Sandford, Palin, Pence, Jindal, etc to cut themselves loose from the sinking Titanic that is the GOP and strike out to form a new party - one which more closely reflects the principles the GOP is alleged to represent.

16 posted on 11/11/2008 6:27:57 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: MadIsh32

Sanford and Mom for President/Veep 2012


17 posted on 11/11/2008 6:28:04 PM PST by ThomasMore (Hedonism cast its vote and we ended up with an ObamaNation!)
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To: MadIsh32
>>>South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford: Conservatives didn't lose election, GOP did<<<

My vote for CNN truthful headline of the political year!!

It should be our mantra until Hell Freezes!

18 posted on 11/11/2008 6:31:14 PM PST by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: dragnet2
"Voters will not elect Republicans who act like Democrats; they’ll just vote for the authentic Democrat instead."
19 posted on 11/11/2008 6:33:39 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (G-d watch over and protect Sarah Palin and her family.)
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To: MadIsh32
The election of the first black president is an inspiring and transformational moment for our country.

Barbra Streisand. And through such shallowness, Guvnor, you got yourself a committed communist as POTUS!

20 posted on 11/11/2008 6:33:41 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Everytime they open their mouth they shoot themselves in the foot.)
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To: MadIsh32
Somebody here should start a petition to demand that non-conservatives Republicans immediately resign from the party.

Sure.

21 posted on 11/11/2008 6:34:39 PM PST by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: ZULU

Smart people only :)

No Palin until she proves she is more then a lightweight

However that does mean guys like Flake, Ryan, Ron Paul and other RLC (Republican Liberty Caucus) and CFL (Campaign for liberty) people


22 posted on 11/11/2008 6:38:27 PM PST by MadIsh32 (The token Muslim :))
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To: MadIsh32

The Activism sidebar is reserved for News/Activism of the FR chapters. Not this.


23 posted on 11/11/2008 6:40:14 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: MadIsh32

An excellent piece. Thanks.

I think there is a need to educate people about what the Conservative principles really are. The last thing we need is for folks to equate Conservatism with the GOP, at least not unless and until the party gets it’s act together.

Talk radio does this to some extent - but for the most part they preach to the choir. We need to evangelize in order to get the message to young people, Hispanics, women, and others who are not going to listen to AM radio three hours a day to figure it out for themselves.

Straight talk from people like Sanford and Palin will be important, we need to make sure they have a platform.


24 posted on 11/11/2008 6:41:34 PM PST by bigbob
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"Voters will not elect Republicans who act like Democrats; they’ll just vote for the authentic Democrat instead."

Little difference between Republicans that act like Democrats, and authentic Democrats.

Like a murderer that kills someone, and then denies it. He's still a murderer.

25 posted on 11/11/2008 6:42:50 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: MadIsh32
Like this guy. He strikes me as the Anti-Mitt.

He's also given me a new tag line.
26 posted on 11/11/2008 6:44:01 PM PST by Antoninus (America didn't turn away from conservatism, they turned away from many who faked it. - Mark Sanford)
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To: Mr. Silverback; Tennessee Nana; AuntB; TADSLOS

Another tragic victim.

27 posted on 11/11/2008 6:46:20 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (G-d watch over and protect Sarah Palin and her family.)
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To: Force of Truth
but the Republicans have to welcome in more libertarian ideas in order to win over the younger voters, who are now active in a larger block.

What, so we can pick up that 0.4% of the vote that Bob Barr got?

Please.

In order to win, Republicans MUST take their social conservative message to Hispanics. That means recruiting Spanish-speaking candidates, and going on Telemundo and Univision with regularity.

If you share our conservative values, we want your vote.
28 posted on 11/11/2008 6:47:06 PM PST by Antoninus (America didn't turn away from conservatism, they turned away from many who faked it. - Mark Sanford)
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To: MadIsh32

This fella’s good. Palin/Sanford? ;)


29 posted on 11/11/2008 6:48:00 PM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

ping


30 posted on 11/11/2008 6:48:36 PM PST by Glacier Honey (`)
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To: MadIsh32

We need to unite behind the Constitution Party. Get Mark Levin and other pundits to sign on. We can do it. We can make history, and we can take back this country from the damned communist.


31 posted on 11/11/2008 6:53:18 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

“I love Mark Sanford and I love my second home (soon to be only home) in the perfect state of South Carolina.”

I had the pleasure of visiting your state of South Carolina last spring. I had a wonderful time, the weather was beautiful (and almost too hot for this Alaskan), and I was absolutely thrilled with my carriage tour of Charleston. I’ve always been facinated by the south and its history. We were fortunate to been guided through our tour by a man who had grown up there. Oh, the stories he told!

S. Carolina is a beautiful state. However, I have wanted to write a letter to your local newspapers about the litter problem. It was everywhere! Not just highways, but every country road I drove down (and I am not exaggerating) was littered so badly it was absolutely sickening.

Do you know why SC has such a problem? It really is a blight on an otherwise lovely state.


32 posted on 11/11/2008 6:55:34 PM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: All

Good gawd!!! I live in South Carolina and while Sanford brings conservative ideals to the table the guy is about as dynamic as a rock. If you thought McCain was a bad communicator Sanford would be a disaster going up against Obama. We need an energetic, articulate conservative in 2012 and the two best candidates are Palin and Jindal.


33 posted on 11/11/2008 7:09:26 PM PST by Abbeville Conservative (Sarah Palin is the best medicine for the Rino Virus.)
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To: Force of Truth
but the Republicans have to welcome in more libertarian ideas in order to win over the younger voters,

Nonsense!!

34 posted on 11/11/2008 7:11:00 PM PST by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
One of our best and brightest Governors, period.

Probably true!!!

35 posted on 11/11/2008 7:12:48 PM PST by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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To: CaribouCrossing

What part of the state were you in other than Charleston? We’re in the upstate area (Greenville/Spartanburg) and never see anything like what you describe as far as litter goes. Last time I was in Charleston, it didn’t look terrible in that way.


36 posted on 11/11/2008 7:12:53 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (RNC:NEWT OR NOT ONE DAMN DIME!)
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To: Antoninus

LOL

Will Hispanics vote against abortion and gays or for a government that panders to them for more goodies?

Lets be honest, any voting block will vote for the goodies

Moving right on social issues will cement us as a permanent minority party. Keep those planks in the platform, but lets not become a party of government telling you how to live your life


37 posted on 11/11/2008 7:19:13 PM PST by MadIsh32 (The token Muslim :))
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To: Abbeville Conservative
Good gawd!!! I live in South Carolina and while Sanford brings conservative ideals to the table the guy is about as dynamic as a rock.

Still on your anti-Sanford jihad, I see.

38 posted on 11/11/2008 7:21:04 PM PST by JohnnyZ (This gun for hire)
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To: MadIsh32
Moving right on social issues will cement us as a permanent minority party. Keep those planks in the platform, but lets not become a party of government telling you how to live your life

Yeah, we should be the party that says it's not a big deal to kill your children.

Great idea.

Republicans should refocus on individual liberty and protection from the government, which is the most direct and necessary antidote for the recent rise of Big Brother socialism.

The absolute protection of the individual's right to life must be a cornerstone of that philosophy, along with an unrestricted internet and media, the right to keep and bear arms, fighting for freedom of religious worship, speech, and practice (the right to refuse to dispense drugs for abortion and euthanasia, the right to speak up for religious beliefs without being prosecuted for being "anti-gay", as is done in Canada and elsewhere, et cetera) - the right to choose one's one health care and investments rather than being dictated to by the government.

39 posted on 11/11/2008 7:30:12 PM PST by JohnnyZ (This gun for hire)
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To: FreeAtlanta; All

I going to waste my vote on a party that wishes to establish a theocracy in this nation.. Thank you but no thank you.. Let me know when the Constitaption Party gets more than 1% of the total vote in the next Presidential Election.


40 posted on 11/11/2008 7:43:59 PM PST by KevinDavis (Thomas Jefferson: A little rebellion now and then is a good thing)
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To: MadIsh32
The election of the first black president is an inspiring and transformational moment for our country.

im tired of hearing this factually inaccurate statement.

41 posted on 11/11/2008 8:29:21 PM PST by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: MadIsh32

Good man, but alas he’s white.


42 posted on 11/11/2008 8:30:24 PM PST by wardaddy (angry white male looking for a modern Danelaw, clinging to guns and religion)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

put me on that list please sir

i plan to support Plain like I’ve never supported anyone

unless she does something nutty


43 posted on 11/11/2008 8:31:57 PM PST by wardaddy (sunset)
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To: JohnnyZ
Yep. He's very underwhelming.
44 posted on 11/11/2008 8:34:18 PM PST by Abbeville Conservative (Sarah Palin is the best medicine for the Rino Virus.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Spent most of my time in the area surrounding Summerton, Manning and Santee. That area’s litter was worse than any area I’ve ever seen in my entire life. We were all commenting on it. It was like you couldn’t even go fifty feet without seeing litter everywhere.

We know folks who spend their winters there and they said that one thing they hate to have to show people when they come to visit. The litter! It truly was disgraceful.

I wasn’t saying that Charleston was terrible (litter problem), just the other areas we saw. We drove from WV to SC.

The next time we go to SC, we want to visit your area. I have heard it is very beautiful. :)


45 posted on 11/11/2008 9:15:48 PM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: ZULU
Since you brought her up...

 



46 posted on 11/11/2008 9:39:28 PM PST by Harrius Magnus (LIBERALS: We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.)
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To: CaribouCrossing

Ihave lived in SC for about 20 years now. I have over a mile of paved road bordering my home property. At a stop sign, and along the road, I see a continual barrage of cans, bottles, fast food bags, etc. Although fines and penalties are high, I have yet to hear of one person caught littering. The police completely ignore the issue as being beneath their dignity. There is the problem.


47 posted on 11/12/2008 4:32:05 AM PST by doosee
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To: MadIsh32

Mark Sanford is so far ahead of the times it is pitiful. He is one of the few politicians I look up to and admire.


48 posted on 11/12/2008 5:24:22 AM PST by gunnedah
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
I love Mark Sanford and I love my second home (soon to be only home) in the perfect state of South Carolina.

Rush got a call late in the show yesterday from a guy living in a western state lamenting his states increasing liberalism due to, according to him, an influx of liberal Californians.

Rush commented back that North Carolina went from red to blue this year in part because of the torrents of liberal yankees moving to the Tar Heel state.

I hope that you're not one of those that plan to move here and then try to change things to like it was 'up north'.

Example: we're going through a zoning debate in Oconee County. My neighbor, an Oconee County native, went to a hearing last Friday night. Only 4 people showed up that were for zoning, all relocated yankees. He said they were hostile, arrogant and argumentative and it looks like we're going to get some damn zoning! It's the camel nose in the tent.

My point being, conservatism is local as well as national. You come down here, move in next to me and then try to change the rules because you don't like the smell of my horses and cows, listening to my dogs barking at night or hearing the sounds of high powered rifle rounds being discharged from my private rifle range.

Please keep that in mind when you permanently invade The Palmetto State.....................

49 posted on 11/12/2008 6:43:47 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: cowboyway

Wow, what a welcoming mat for this Yankee and her family. Not all Yankees are liberals, is this the welcome that you will have out for this fellow Freeper? Cowboyway, I survived the New York City Public School System: Elementary, Junior High, High School and CUNY and I still have my conservative faculties intact. Fellow Southern Freepers, if I move down South with my family - which the way things are going there is a possibility down the road, will I be welcomed or not?/Just Asking - seoul62......


50 posted on 11/12/2008 6:55:05 AM PST by seoul62
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