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Catholic bishops plan to forcefully confront Obama
Chicago Tribune on-line ^ | November 11, 2008 | Manya Brachear, Tribune staff reporter

Posted on 11/11/2008 6:58:13 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

BALTIMORE - America's Roman Catholic bishops, long one of the leading political forces against abortion, vowed on Tuesday to accept no compromise for the sake of unity until there is legal protection for the unborn.

About 300 prelates gathered here for their national meeting adopted a formal blessing for a child in the womb and advised Chicago's Cardinal Francis George as he drafted a post-election letter to America's Catholics. The moves were meant to tell the incoming Obama administration, which supports keeping abortion legal, that the nation's Catholic bishops are stepping up their opposition to abortion.

"This is not a matter of political compromise or a matter of finding some way of common ground," said Bishop Daniel Conlon of Steubenville, Ohio. "It's a matter of absolutes. Either you didn't have slavery or you did have slavery. So it is with abortion."

Bishops Thomas Paprocki of Chicago said the Freedom of Choice Act could threaten conscience clauses, putting Catholic health care institutions in jeopardy.

"There are grave consequences," Paprocki said. "If Catholic hospitals were required by federal law to perform abortions, we'd have to close our hospitals."

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KEYWORDS: 111th; abortion; agenda; bho2008; catholicvote; foca; obama; proaborts; usccb
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1 posted on 11/11/2008 6:58:13 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Gee, maybe they’ll stop funding ACORN.


2 posted on 11/11/2008 7:01:07 PM PST by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Excommunication is the answer!


3 posted on 11/11/2008 7:01:29 PM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

They don’t seem to be wishing him “every success” as are some others.

Good.


4 posted on 11/11/2008 7:02:44 PM PST by thesetruths
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Way to stand up bishops....better late than never. Still would like to see Biden, Pelosi excommunicated. Actually, I’d prefer to see a public repentance on their part. I wonder which is more likely?


5 posted on 11/11/2008 7:05:18 PM PST by mockingbyrd (Sarah 2012!)
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To: Swordmaker; Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fred Nerks; ...

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6 posted on 11/11/2008 7:05:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

The Bishops and the cardinals have finally gotten straight to the point. No ifs, ands, or buts!

The next step after Bishop Martino taking on Biden should be the Senator bob casey jr.

GO BISHOPS1


7 posted on 11/11/2008 7:06:13 PM PST by ethics
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
From the article: "There are grave consequences," Paprocki said in an interview. "If Catholic hospitals were required by federal law to perform abortions, we'd have to close our hospitals." "I don't think I'm being alarmist," Paprocki told the bishops. George agreed that losing federal funds would put Catholic health care facilities, which make up a third of the nation's hospitals, out of business. Closing Catholic hospitals would put many patients seeking charitable care from those facilities at risk, he added.
8 posted on 11/11/2008 7:08:44 PM PST by allmost
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Cardinal Biggles! Poke Obama with...the SOFT CUSHIONS!!!
9 posted on 11/11/2008 7:08:54 PM PST by AndrewB
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To: Mikey_1962

They did that already last month, wise guy. Read the news often?


10 posted on 11/11/2008 7:10:07 PM PST by CWW (Palin & Jindal in 2012!!)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Our bishops have been MIA for decades now, but I'm getting a sense that the tide is FINALLY turning.

God bless and protect our good and holy bishops!
11 posted on 11/11/2008 7:11:18 PM PST by Antoninus (America didn't turn away from conservatism, they turned away from many who faked it. - Mark Sanford)
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To: NYer

Which one of the Bishops was it that had the biggest fit about the Faithful Citizenship document? I can’t remember who it was.


12 posted on 11/11/2008 7:12:24 PM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: ethics

A good first step would be a mass March For Life in DC. I believe two days after Obama takes office,


13 posted on 11/11/2008 7:12:31 PM PST by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Didn't I see an article stating that more Catholics went for Obama then Mccain? If thats true the bishops should confront themselves.
14 posted on 11/11/2008 7:12:53 PM PST by linn37
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

That’s it. Obama is the AntiChrist!

BTW, it is getting harder to argue with my friends that he is NOT the AC, especially since it looks like his first actions as President will involve abortion and stem cell research.

Oh, well we only have him around until 2012.

Wait a minute!

Isn’t that the date the Mayan Calender ends?

This is getting TOO CREEPY.


15 posted on 11/11/2008 7:14:15 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Better late than never...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UieDo4GoRPE


16 posted on 11/11/2008 7:14:22 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Bye bye tax exempt status.


17 posted on 11/11/2008 7:14:24 PM PST by aWolverine
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To: Antoninus

Too much talk and too far past the election. And I AM a faithfully practicing Catholic. This show won’t change a thing and when they could have changed something, they didn’t.


18 posted on 11/11/2008 7:14:50 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: allmost
"There are grave consequences," Paprocki said in an interview. "If Catholic hospitals were required by federal law to perform abortions, we'd have to close our hospitals." "I don't think I'm being alarmist," Paprocki told the bishops. George agreed that losing federal funds would put Catholic health care facilities, which make up a third of the nation's hospitals, out of business. Closing Catholic hospitals would put many patients seeking charitable care from those facilities at risk, he added.

And let it not be forgotten that Mitt Romney's socialized medicine scam and homo-adoption garbage put the Catholic Church in Boston in precisely the same kind of binds.

When you have to make charity illegal to serve your immoral masters, you know you've turned to the dark side.
19 posted on 11/11/2008 7:15:17 PM PST by Antoninus (America didn't turn away from conservatism, they turned away from many who faked it. - Mark Sanford)
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To: mockingbyrd

The sleeping giant is awake.....thank you


20 posted on 11/11/2008 7:16:06 PM PST by prayerfullywaiting
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To: mware

The March for Life has got to be huge next year


21 posted on 11/11/2008 7:16:15 PM PST by virgil
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To: Emmett McCarthy
Too much talk and too far past the election. And I AM a faithfully practicing Catholic.

Then you must have had your head in the sand over the past 6 months. By election day, over 100 bishops had spoken out forcefully on the election and abortion. Some, Like Bishop Gracida, went as far as naming names.
22 posted on 11/11/2008 7:17:22 PM PST by Antoninus (America didn't turn away from conservatism, they turned away from many who faked it. - Mark Sanford)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

But doesn’t this criticism make the bishops “racists?” Especially since “people of color” seem so enamored of killing their children (way to show “whitey,” btw).


23 posted on 11/11/2008 7:19:48 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vatabbet 'ishto me'acharayv; vatehi netziv melach.)
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To: prayerfullywaiting

24 posted on 11/11/2008 7:19:53 PM PST by traumer
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To: linn37

Yeah I’ve seen that also.

What people don’t realize that there are a LOT of people whom call themselves Catholic that don’t practice in any way shape or form.

If they polled Catholics whom attend Mass at least once a week the numbers would have been quite a bit different.


25 posted on 11/11/2008 7:20:44 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: virgil
I have decided to attend the march for life instead of CPAC this time around.

It will be something very special this year since the obama crowd will still be in the area.

I may take the train down if our parish does not have a bus going.

26 posted on 11/11/2008 7:21:59 PM PST by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: linn37

It wasn’t just Catholics that voted for him.


27 posted on 11/11/2008 7:23:22 PM PST by Radl (rtr)
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To: Don Corleone
Exactly.

I want to see Joe Biden excommunicated IMMEDIATELY if not sooner.

28 posted on 11/11/2008 7:27:03 PM PST by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

These guys are shocked, shocked, that Catholics voted for Obama? Give me a break! Bunch of liberal queens. I’m a practicing Catholic who is totally fed up with these guys.


29 posted on 11/11/2008 7:27:20 PM PST by Mercat (God doesn't call me to be successful. God calls me to be faithful. Mother Teresa)
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To: Antoninus

I’m not unaware of them, but the Conference of Bishops meeting and speaking out would have gotten a lot more attention and I still have questions about the ACORN donations.


30 posted on 11/11/2008 7:30:06 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Well, as much as this is LONG overdue, I have to ask..what “teeth” does this have?

Will the Bishops finally do the right thing, and ex-communicate pro-abortion politicians? (They should). Refuse them Communion? (Ditto).

Doubt it. The Catholic Church is also a political entity IMHO (unfortunately), and they don’t want to “make too many waves”. Hence, the “wiffing” on REAL support for the unborn.

We’ve been attending Catholic Mass for over 15 years now..I think I can count on ONE hand the number of Homilies I’ve heard on the topic. What’s THAT tell ya?


31 posted on 11/11/2008 7:30:22 PM PST by jstolzen (All it takes for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke)
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To: virgil

Who will know about it?
Two gay protesters on the Supreme Court steps will get wall to wall coverage.
Hundreds of thousands marching for life won’t get a mention.


32 posted on 11/11/2008 7:37:40 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

They’ve made this Catholic proud. God Bless them!!!


33 posted on 11/11/2008 7:38:01 PM PST by VRWCer (Sarah Palin - the embodiment of the spirit and true grit upon which this great country was founded.)
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To: aWolverine
Bye bye tax exempt status.

I really hate this excuse. A church has every right to preach what it believes! Like it or not, some politicians are going to disagree. So what? Is a church supposed to keep silent about what it sees as evil? They may as well all close if that's the case.

34 posted on 11/11/2008 7:40:26 PM PST by Americanchild
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Yeah... what are they gonna do now? hold up a cross and bag of garlic cloves???

Not to belittle bishops, but what kind of clout do they think they really have with this guy???

They should have forced the issue with voters a LONG TIME AGO!
OHHH... but nooooo.... gotta protect that precious tax free status of the church now dont we? Just like the Trinity Church of Christ and Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam protects theirs right???

Give me a break.


35 posted on 11/11/2008 7:41:44 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Either we Christians serve God or we serve man. We can’t have it both ways.


36 posted on 11/11/2008 7:41:54 PM PST by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: virgil

Yes, and in general we need to conspicuously affirm our religious faith in public, rejecting the secular ideology that casts a presumptive shade of suspicion over anything “religious”. As always, the Christmas season is probably the most effective time to do so.


37 posted on 11/11/2008 7:45:39 PM PST by Mmmike
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
"If Catholic hospitals were required by federal law to perform abortions, we'd have to close our hospitals."

Well, of course! Those closed hospitals will be reopened under the National Health Care Act! Just don't expect to be paid for the buildings or the equipment therein.

38 posted on 11/11/2008 7:47:54 PM PST by Just Lori (Liberalism ---->Socialism----->Communism------>BONDAGE!!!!)
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To: Antoninus

Yer kiddin’, right? These men have had their heads firmly planted in the sand for decades.

If they’re finally waking up, great. However, sometimes “late” is “too late”.


39 posted on 11/11/2008 7:53:46 PM PST by Just Lori (Liberalism ---->Socialism----->Communism------>BONDAGE!!!!)
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To: Emmett McCarthy
I’m not unaware of them, but the Conference of Bishops meeting and speaking out would have gotten a lot more attention and I still have questions about the ACORN donations.

The Catholic Bishops have asked the FBI to investigate ACORN's relationship with the CCHD.

40 posted on 11/11/2008 7:55:14 PM PST by frogjerk (Welcome|Goodbye to|from Free|Fairness Doctrine Republic!)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

“The power of Christ compels you. The power of Christ compels you. The power of Christ compels you....”


41 posted on 11/11/2008 7:57:11 PM PST by RichInOC (Obama/Biden '08: "We Are Not Ruled By Murderers, But Only--By Their Friends."--Rudyard Kipling)
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To: AndrewB

Maybe they could build a Catholic college that teaches the Catholic teaching on life while they're all together in one place? They will need Catholics who know it to carry through these plans.

42 posted on 11/11/2008 7:57:14 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Antoninus

Six months? Why didn’t they take this kind of stand EVERY DAY since 1973?

The American Church has been moving left for decades. The last 6 months is nothing in comparison.


43 posted on 11/11/2008 7:57:43 PM PST by Just Lori (Liberalism ---->Socialism----->Communism------>BONDAGE!!!!)
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To: Don Corleone; NYer
Excommunication is the answer!

Obama is not Catholic.
They'd do better excommunicating all the pro-abortion/pro-homosexual so-called "Catholics" in Congress.
Won't happen, of course.

44 posted on 11/11/2008 7:59:36 PM PST by XR7
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To: Americanchild; aWolverine
Bye bye tax exempt status.

I really hate this excuse. A church has every right to preach what it believes! Like it or not, some politicians are going to disagree. So what? Is a church supposed to keep silent about what it sees as evil? They may as well all close if that's the case.

Too much rendering to Caesar going on in the Church. Time to speak the TRUTH and let the chips fall where they may.

45 posted on 11/11/2008 7:59:37 PM PST by frogjerk (Welcome|Goodbye to|from Free|Fairness Doctrine Republic!)
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To: Americanchild
Bye bye tax exempt status.

I really hate this excuse. A church has every right to preach what it believes! Like it or not, some politicians are going to disagree. So what? Is a church supposed to keep silent about what it sees as evil? They may as well all close if that's the case.


It's not an excuse, it's a promise of life under Comrade Zero's Brave New Bootheel. Also, get ready for the Ministry of Journalism to do hit pieces on the individual clergymen.
46 posted on 11/11/2008 8:05:26 PM PST by aWolverine
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To: traumer
Those are the 70 virgins waiting for deceased terrorists.
47 posted on 11/11/2008 8:08:26 PM PST by mockingbyrd (Sarah 2012!)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

I’m not a Catholic, but I thank God for these courageous Catholic bishops!


48 posted on 11/11/2008 8:11:11 PM PST by Doctor Don
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To: AndrewB

OMG one of my favorite Monty Python sketches...in fact my husband and I were watching this sketch last night.


49 posted on 11/11/2008 8:12:23 PM PST by DocT111
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Pray for LIFE!

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50 posted on 11/11/2008 8:35:31 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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