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GOP to file suit to undo McCain rules
The Washington Times ^ | 11/13/08 | Ralph Hallow

Posted on 11/13/2008 5:10:54 AM PST by HastertFan

The Republican Party will file federal lawsuits Thursday seeking to overthrow the McCain-Feingold federal campaign finance regulations, Republican National Committee Chairman Robert M. "Mike" Duncan revealed Wednesday night at a private dinner with the nation's Republican governors.

The move is considered a slap in the face of the Republican Party's failed 2008 presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, who was dramatically outspent by Democrat Barack Obama, and of President Bush, who signed McCain-Feingold into law in 2002.

"We will bring two federal suits tomorrow to strengthen the Republican Party," Mr. Duncan told The Washington Times.

Mr. Duncan said one suit will be filed in the District of Columbia to strike down the soft-money ban that is the central tenet of the McCain-Feingold Act — formally known as the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002. "Soft money" is largely unrestricted contributions from wealthy individuals, corporations and labor unions.

The second suit will be in a Louisiana federal court to strike down the limits under the law Mr. McCain co-sponsored with Sen. Russ Feingold, Wisconsin Democrat, that control coordination between parties and their candidates.

"It prohibits us from spending over $84,000 in coordination with a candidate in a congressional race," Mr. Duncan said. "That means we have to find some group to raise and spend money but without any coordination" with the candidate, his campaign or the RNC.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; 2008; campaignfinance; cfr; democrats; dumbass; election; electionpresident; elections; epicfail; failure; gop; loser; mcbama; mccain; mccainfeingold; mccainsfailure; mccainsfolly; mccaintruthfile; mcqueeg; mikeduncan; rino; rnc; traitor; ussenate
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I have no problem with this, I only wish we did it a little sooner.
1 posted on 11/13/2008 5:10:55 AM PST by HastertFan
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To: HastertFan

Good idea. Slap McWhacked once for me as well.

While they are at it, they need to spearhead movements in the states with early primaries to change the rules to block Dims from crossing over and voting in our primaries and picking the weakest candidate for us.


2 posted on 11/13/2008 5:13:57 AM PST by webschooner (May piss be upon the One)
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To: HastertFan

I wish they would send McQueeg packing before he can do anymore damage.


3 posted on 11/13/2008 5:13:59 AM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: HastertFan
McCain deserves to be slapped in the face for the stupid law, and Bush deserves to be slapped in the face for signing it.
4 posted on 11/13/2008 5:14:19 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: HastertFan
John McCain deserves a slap in the face.

Let's get this party back under control of Conservatives before it's too late.

Owl_Eagle

“When the stock market crashed,
Franklin Roosevelt got on the television
and didn’t just talk about
the princes of greed, he said,
‘Look, here’s what happened.’"
-Slow Joe Biden

5 posted on 11/13/2008 5:15:06 AM PST by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: HastertFan

As my mom used to say, “The horse is already out of the barn.”

On this issue, Sen McCain & Pres Bush have sown the wind and reaped the whirlwind. Their entire base opposed them, and they went with their enemies instead. And their enemies turned it around with 527’s and billionaires and stabbed them in the heart with the very issue they had hoped would provide security for incumbents.

The best rule about money is no rules.

All of which matters little if conservatives don’t find a way around the mainstream media. The concessions to their preferred candidate cannot be matched in funds when it comes to air time.


6 posted on 11/13/2008 5:17:49 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: HastertFan
Should have never been passed in the first place. Should have never been signed into law by the President.

But at least this is something now...however late.

Now that McCain lost, we must do our part to stand in the breech and write our GOP senators and urge them to stand.

At the same time standing up in any way we can ourselves over these next four years until we can turn this OBAMANATION around.



Many more designs here.

7 posted on 11/13/2008 5:18:33 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: HastertFan
What are the chances of this succeeding?
8 posted on 11/13/2008 5:19:18 AM PST by tiredoflaundry (With all the WH leaks to come, it proves the country needed a plumber!)
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To: webschooner
That with the fact Obama’s team simply ignored all rules regarding fund raising, really put Repubs in a difficult situation.

The Left spent the last 8 year devising a concise plan to win. The Repubs spent that time doing everything in their power to help them.

Enforces my belief that this 2 party structured system is merely a distraction for a Socialist NWO takeover.

9 posted on 11/13/2008 5:21:40 AM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: HastertFan

Better late than never.

It should never have been passed in the first place.

And of course, McCain should NEVER have been seriously considered as a GOP presidential candidate, but what are you gonna do, eh?


10 posted on 11/13/2008 5:21:51 AM PST by WayneS (HELP! My beloved Commonwealth is becoming MARYLAND!)
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To: HastertFan

Yes..., McCain has been *whacked* by McCain-Feingold... LOL..

How appropriate!


11 posted on 11/13/2008 5:23:03 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: HastertFan

About Effing time.


12 posted on 11/13/2008 5:23:45 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: HastertFan

Let me get this straight. This is the same Republican Party which got on the McCain bandwagon from the beginning of the campaign? I wonder which actual conservative was responsible for finally getting through to these idiots to recognize the errors of their ways.


13 posted on 11/13/2008 5:23:54 AM PST by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: HastertFan

So...what a minute. The campaign finance reform plan that was designed to unilaterally disarm Republican candidates isn’t such a good idea after all? Wow, sure glad they figured that out.


14 posted on 11/13/2008 5:27:07 AM PST by Obadiah (NOMR! - Not One More RINO!)
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To: wolfcreek
>>The Repubs spent that time doing everything in their power to help them.<<

Bush is still at it, according to Michelle Malkin.

link

17 posted on 11/13/2008 5:30:32 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: Owl_Eagle

When was the party ever under the control of conservatives?


18 posted on 11/13/2008 5:31:42 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: HastertFan

“Mr. Duncan led the RNC in raising more than $315 million for this year’s campaigns, winning the admiration of Republican candidates and state Republican Party officials and outperforming Howard Dean’s DNC fundraising performance. About $53 million was used to bolster Mr. McCain’s bid.”

Let’s get real here...SARAH PALIN essentially ‘raised’ that money! The RNC was floundering all over the place until the base came out after she was added to the ticket.

That said, we should have brought suit on this assault to free speech long ago.


19 posted on 11/13/2008 5:32:10 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: HastertFan

It’s about time. Jeez, how many more things must the conservatives be proven right about before people in our party start taking our opinions seriously.


20 posted on 11/13/2008 5:34:47 AM PST by IMissPresidentReagan ("But obviously, a lot of shelter dogs are mutts like me." - 0bama (he said it not me folks))
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To: Chris DeWeese

When we have so many RINOs (including McQueeg) in Congress, that figure is moot.


21 posted on 11/13/2008 5:35:52 AM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: HastertFan

There is a bitter irony in McCain-Feingold and McCain’s 2008 run for the presidency. Hoisted on his own petard.

It is rather laughable that it bit him more than his opponent.

Further proof that just because Congress passes it and the President signs it and the Supreme Court upholds most of it, that doesn’t always make it a good law.


22 posted on 11/13/2008 5:36:36 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: HastertFan

Who the heck cares anyway? Nobody follows the rules anyway. The 527’s did the end run around M/F. Abolish it.


23 posted on 11/13/2008 5:37:36 AM PST by ByteMercenary (9-11: supported everywhere by followers of the the cult of islam.)
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To: HastertFan
The move is considered a slap in the face of the Republican Party's failed 2008 presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain

I love how that reads. Maybe the conservatives are finally growing a set.

24 posted on 11/13/2008 5:38:30 AM PST by icwhatudo
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To: HastertFan
Before they do, they should force Obammie the Commie's campaign to track each and every campaign contribution he received through the Internet.

Obammie the Commie bought his election with stolen money and illegal foreign campaign contributions.

In Andy Rooney's voice:
Djever notice how when Republicans raise more money for elections it's suddenly a good idea to “get the money out of politics”?
Djever notice how when DemocRATS raise more money for elections it's a grassroots effort, the voice of the people, the “little guys” showing their enthusiastic support for the DemocRAT nominee?

25 posted on 11/13/2008 5:38:34 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are useful idiots. They are the pawns of Leftists.)
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To: wolfcreek
That with the fact Obama’s team simply ignored all rules regarding fund raising

Correct. They had millions in illegal contributions flooding in from overseas. There were a few stories on it, but no investigation, no penalty, even after the election, it just helped the Marxist squirrel win.

Pubbies follow rules and get spanked and prosecuted if they don't, and often even get prosecuted for no good reason (Scooter Libby, e.g., and now Bush and Cheney are next). Dims do whatever the hell they want with no consequences (e.g., Obozo may not even be a US citizen and therefore not legally qualified to be POTUS, but the medjia and the courts want no part of investigating it). The medjia is little different than Pravda was. We have virtual one party rule for those with eyes to see. Pubs appear to be a prop to make it appear to sheeple that we have a fair two-party system, yada yada.With no term limits, congress critters just find it comfy to be in the elite Beltway class, even those in the RINO minority.

When someone like a Palin appears on the Nat'l political scene who isn't part of this little charade of ruling Dims, medjia lapdogs, and RINO get-alongs, all of the above have a collective cow and dust off the heavy artillery to take out said interloper.

Not to be doom and gloom -- just to state the facts: we are so screwed, and everyone's pooch too.

26 posted on 11/13/2008 5:39:57 AM PST by webschooner (May piss be upon the One)
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To: wolfcreek
That with the fact Obama’s team simply ignored all rules regarding fund raising, really put Repubs in a difficult situation.

No.

What put Repubs in a difficult situation was their candidate.

McCain's funds were gone and his campaign was DOA, until a little help from his friends resurrected it.

Regardless of that, McCain HAD to select public financing, because he was not getting any significant donations -- even after he became the nominee. Donations didn't pour in until AFTER he put Gov. Palin on the ticket.


27 posted on 11/13/2008 5:40:55 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: icwhatudo

As I recall it was moderate Republicans (and some conservatives, like Fred Thompson!) who allowed McCain-Feingold to go through. Not to mention signing it was GWB’s biggest mistake. So for party leaders to admit they want to undo their own legislation is pretty embarrassing. Of course another big proponent of “reform” was the defeated Rep. Chris Shays.


28 posted on 11/13/2008 5:42:00 AM PST by TNCMAXQ
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To: webschooner
While they are at it, they need to spearhead movements in the states with early primaries to change the rules to block Dims from crossing over and voting in our primaries and picking the weakest candidate for us.

ICBW, but I'm pretty sure that it is the political parties themselves that determine whether their primary is open or closed. When I lived in NYC, the primaries were closed. Since I've been in WV, until this year, the rat primary was open and the GOP closed. The GOP opened their primary this year. However, the May GOP primary here which elected only 9 of the state's 30 delegates was anti-climatic due to the corrupt, first ever WV GOP Presidential Convention (insiders only) on Super Tuesday.

29 posted on 11/13/2008 5:43:21 AM PST by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.............maybe.)
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To: Hoodat
I wonder which actual conservative was responsible for finally getting through to these idiots to recognize the errors of their ways.

I'm not sure they actually have recognized the error of their ways.

After last week's loss, the RNC mouthpieces were all over the media, explaining how they needed to expand the tent more and move further to the left to gain Independents and moderates. [Sound familiar? That was the same line after 2006, and it didn't work.]
30 posted on 11/13/2008 5:43:56 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: webschooner
Here's a site which helps (at least me) one understand why we're where we are. Pay special attention to the references to CFR. http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/
31 posted on 11/13/2008 5:46:29 AM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: TomGuy

McCain was outspent 8 to 1. Obama shut off the ticker on his incoming funds.


32 posted on 11/13/2008 5:48:27 AM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: TNCMAXQ
As I recall it was moderate Republicans (and some conservatives, like Fred Thompson!) who allowed McCain-Feingold to go through.

Reality is such a bubble-buster. The original bill was labeled McCain-Feingold-Thompson.

Thompson didn't just allow McCain-Feingold to go through. He was chairman of the committee that wrote the damn thing.
33 posted on 11/13/2008 5:48:41 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: wolfcreek
McCain was outspent 8 to 1.

McCain had to ask for public financing because McCain was unable to inspire enough people to donate to his campaign -- even after he locked up the nomination.


34 posted on 11/13/2008 5:52:37 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: HastertFan

They ahould have filed suit to ensure Obama and the democrats followed this.


35 posted on 11/13/2008 5:55:37 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: HastertFan

Well, even better would be to make it a law that candidates for President HAD to use the Federal monies set aside for elections as John McCain did. Had this occurred, Obama would not be guilty of accepting so much money from foreign nationals. And he’d have lost.


36 posted on 11/13/2008 5:59:31 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (Psalm 66:7b "He watches every movement of the nations. Rebels will not be able to oppose Him.")
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Conservatives should do this more often and IMMEDIATELY after a law is passed, just like the Libs.

Go challenge it in court.


37 posted on 11/13/2008 6:00:59 AM PST by Madeleine Ward (.)
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To: HastertFan

Go away and take all your lame ass leadership with you McLame.


38 posted on 11/13/2008 6:01:07 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: HastertFan
They need to end OPEN PRIMARIES and require that those who vote in Republican Primaries be registered as Republicans at least 90 days prior to the election.

If the primaries had been closed, McCain would never have been the nominee. The democrats not only gave us Obama, but effectively gave us McCain.

39 posted on 11/13/2008 6:07:40 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: wolfcreek
The Left spent the last 8 year devising a concise plan to win. The Repubs spent that time doing everything in their power to help them.

Truer words were never spoken.

40 posted on 11/13/2008 6:08:59 AM PST by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: HastertFan
The Republican Party will file federal lawsuits Thursday seeking to overthrow the McCain-Feingold federal campaign finance regulations

Thanks a lot Senator Maverick!

41 posted on 11/13/2008 6:11:05 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: TNCMAXQ
As I recall it was moderate Republicans (and some conservatives, like Fred Thompson!) who allowed McCain-Feingold to go through. Not to mention signing it was GWB’s biggest mistake.

Remember the argument at the time? "It's unconstitutional, scotus will strike it down". So he signed it. (the "New Tone" and all that crap) What kind of conservative "constructionist" signs a bill he knows to be unconstitutional?

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.

42 posted on 11/13/2008 6:18:33 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: webschooner

I don’t see anyone trying to prevent another 2008.
Our NH and FL FRiends need to get off the computer and get on state gop activities.
I will get involved


43 posted on 11/13/2008 6:18:59 AM PST by omega4179 (IS IT COMMUNISM YET OR JUST MASS INSANITY.)
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To: HastertFan

Wow—I’m impressed. It only took how long for the light bulb to go on with these people?

As for McBipartisan, he can go where the sun doesn’t sun.


44 posted on 11/13/2008 6:19:53 AM PST by dools007
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To: HastertFan

As usual, GOP is behind the 8-ball. Good they’re doing it. Why did they wait?


45 posted on 11/13/2008 6:20:17 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("...a hyphenated American is not an American at all." T. Roosevelt)
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To: TomGuy

Repubs did not donate to anyone including FRed,Tancredo or Duncan.
Mass helplessness set in.


47 posted on 11/13/2008 6:21:00 AM PST by omega4179 (IS IT COMMUNISM YET OR JUST MASS INSANITY.)
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To: HastertFan

Ditto. Bad idea in the first place. Poetic justice on McCain, but the country will suffer for it.


48 posted on 11/13/2008 6:21:49 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: ecomcon

I seem to remember some sources said McCain would have challenged Bush either for the nomination or as an independent in 2004 if he had not signed this. Maybe Bush thought he owed McCain after some of the bitterness in 2000. Since it was thought the Supreme Court would rule against it maybe he thought it was best to just sign it. Still, all things considered, he should have vetoed it as he said he would in the 2000 primary campaign.


49 posted on 11/13/2008 6:27:56 AM PST by TNCMAXQ
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To: TomGuy

You are right about Thompson. That is one reason I was less than enthusiastic about his candidacy though I eventually voted for him in the primary.

I say he and other Republicans “allowed” the bill to pass because they were the deciding votes, I think, even though they were a minority in the GOP. The coalition of moderate Repubs and Dems got the bill through, and broke the filibuster that Mitch McConnell and others supported.

GWB stood up to al qaeda and the bad guys but he sort of caved when it came to this issue and it cost him and the party a lot. Very bad.


50 posted on 11/13/2008 6:30:54 AM PST by TNCMAXQ
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