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Boehner Assails Auto-maker Bailout; Hopes dim for quick action
The Wall Street Journal ^ | November 13, 2008 | Josh Marshall & Michael Crittenden

Posted on 11/13/2008 4:34:54 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative

WASHINGTON -- The prospect of a government bailout of General Motors Corp. before the end of the year dimmed Thursday, with a leading Senate Democrat pointing to a lack of political will for a package and the top House Republican assailing the plans.

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See what Ford, GM have been up to in recent years as their stock price and sales declined. Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher Dodd said he knew of no Republicans who would support the Democrats' $25 billion proposal and said he was disinclined to move a bill without bipartisan support.

"I'd want to be careful about bringing up a proposition that might fail," given that a rescue plan would likely fare better under a President-elect Barack Obama administration, Sen. Dodd (D., Conn.) told reporters on Capitol Hill. "There's some political considerations that need to be made over the next few days."

Prominent Republicans have questioned bailing out Detroit's long-struggling auto makers, and partisan differences threatened to derail the Democrats' plans. House Minority Leader John Boehner of Ohio said Thursday that a multibillion-dollar rescue of Detroit auto makers would be "neither fair to taxpayers nor sound fiscal policy" without requiring dramatic reforms of the companies.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 110th; automakers; bailout; bailouts; boehner; boner; ford; gm
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To: what's up
well then the few will have to do it! i sent him a atta boy! if he only gets a few, it is better than none at all. we have got to be just as vigilant at given praise when warranted as we are with criticism.
21 posted on 11/13/2008 5:05:54 PM PST by CanadianMusherinMI (drill baby drill/mine baby mine!)
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To: what's up

which is very very unfair if you look past 1 vote


22 posted on 11/13/2008 5:06:39 PM PST by Blogger
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To: Blogger
which is very very unfair if you look past 1 vote

Not exactly sure what you mean. What is unfair?

23 posted on 11/13/2008 5:08:13 PM PST by what's up
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To: CanadianMusherinMI
we have got to be just as vigilant at given praise when warranted as we are with criticism.

Very true.

24 posted on 11/13/2008 5:09:19 PM PST by what's up
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To: St. Louis Conservative

One thing for sure I do not want to see and auto industry run by the government.


25 posted on 11/13/2008 5:09:45 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: what's up

It’s like walking down a dark alley with an acquaintence. Don’t know the guy too well. Some menacing gang members approach. He says “Let’s stand back to back and take these guys out.” I say “Well, first I have to know what your positions are on some key issues.” LOL. I think not.

We are in serious trouble here.


26 posted on 11/13/2008 5:12:00 PM PST by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: counterpunch

Stop the rhetoric now! Are you in grade school or something? John Boehner, pronounced Bay-ner, is a solid conservative with a 100% rating from the ACU. It is fair game if you say he isn't strong enough due to the bailout. I would propbably concede that point. But he is a decent man and a great Representative and we need to stop eating our own! If we don't, what decent person is going to run??? Trashing Boehner s idiocy! We have an unpopular Presdent & a lying press. You wanna kay blame? Look there.


27 posted on 11/13/2008 5:16:07 PM PST by Blogger
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To: what's up

The trashing of Boehner. He is a good solid conservative. It may be better to have someone else in that role, but calling him Boner and the like and trying to trash him is immature and incorrect. He blew it on a big vote. Most of his career though he had been a solid as a rock conservative. I’m sick of Conservatives jumping on the bash the conservative bandwagon. It only discourages good folks from ever running.


28 posted on 11/13/2008 5:17:53 PM PST by Blogger
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To: Bahbah
We are in serious trouble here.

The thing that's encouraging to me is that Obama did not get a landslide. Nowhere near. A 6% difference between he and McCain is not that much. And we still have sizeable numbers in both chambers of Congress.

But I agree with you that we are in trouble if the rank and file conservatives continue their quest for perfection. No one can live up to the latest standards among the grassroots.

29 posted on 11/13/2008 5:19:42 PM PST by what's up
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To: Blogger
but calling him Boner and the like and trying to trash him is immature and incorrect

Correct.

Boehner has voted uprightly on a whole host of issues for years.

He doesn't deserve this ugly treatment.

I thought the same of Hastert also and was disgusted by the right's treatment of that man.

30 posted on 11/13/2008 5:24:42 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up
A 6% difference between he and McCain is not that much. And we still have sizeable numbers in both chambers of Congress.

But I agree with you that we are in trouble if the rank and file conservatives continue their quest for perfection. No one can live up to the latest standards among the grassroots.

It seems to me that what we have in front of us are a series of battles. If I see an elected official out there picking up the banner and heading into the fray on my side of the issue, I'm going to back that one up as best I can. We don't have the numbers to go with the purity checklist.

31 posted on 11/13/2008 5:29:17 PM PST by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: Blogger

Boner doesn’t have a 100% ACU rating, so stop lying.
In 2006, the year House Republicans ran wild under his “leadership” and then lost the majority, Boner had an ACU rating of 88%.

That makes him a moderate, not a conservative.
Is Boner a member of the Republican Study Committee (RSC), which is the conservative caucus in the House? No.

But this is about more than ideological leanings.
This is about the ability to LEAD.
And Boner has failed as a leader miserably.

No party leader who loses 20% of his caucus under his watch should be allowed to stay on as leader by party.


32 posted on 11/13/2008 5:30:08 PM PST by counterpunch ( We must not re-fight 2008 in 2012.)
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To: Blogger; All

I think that is why we lost in 08.. I think a lot of good candidates wanted to run, but most of them are not “pure” enough according to some folks..


33 posted on 11/13/2008 5:31:51 PM PST by KevinDavis (Thomas Jefferson: A little rebellion now and then is a good thing)
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To: Blogger
The trashing of Boehner. He is a good solid conservative... He blew it on a big vote.

I'm sorry. The bailout vote was a litmus test. Boehner's not a fiscal conservative, he's just another politician. Go ahead and waste your time letting him know what you think. He'll just stick his finger in the wind and do whatever he thinks he needs to do to get elected again.

34 posted on 11/13/2008 5:31:51 PM PST by Swing_Thought (pes.si.mist: [pes-uh-mist] 1. a well informed optimist.)
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To: counterpunch

http://www.conservative.org/archive2/House_standout.asp

Don’t accuse me of lyng unless you search first. this if 2007 standouts.


35 posted on 11/13/2008 5:34:33 PM PST by Blogger
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To: what's up

Who cares how he’s voted?
He has been rudderless as Majority (now Minority) Leader.
He lost the Majority.
He let Republicans run wild like a bunch of big spending Dems.

He has been soft on spending, earmarks, ethics.


36 posted on 11/13/2008 5:35:15 PM PST by counterpunch ( We must not re-fight 2008 in 2012.)
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To: Bahbah
If I see an elected official out there picking up the banner and heading into the fray on my side of the issue, I'm going to back that one up as best I can

Very good advice. It occurs to me that maybe they should spread out the battles among the leadership so any one person can't be too much of a target for both the Dems AND the grassroots conservatives.

37 posted on 11/13/2008 5:36:46 PM PST by what's up
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To: nclaurel
If they file Chapter 11 and reorganize like Kmart did, it would screw the remaining shareholders but like Kmart they would survive.

This is exactly what has to happen. One way or the other someone's going to get screwed. Any notion that the companies can be saved by more loans from the taxpayers is PURE FICTION.

38 posted on 11/13/2008 5:41:46 PM PST by Grim
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To: counterpunch
He lost the Majority.

Ah, so no blame goes to the media who lied through their teeth every chance they got? I see.

Same thing happened when the MSM convinced conservatives Hastert and the House leadership was responsible for Mark Foley 2 years ago. Conservatives bought it and we got gay Nancy Pelosi as leader who since has helped destroy the economy.

Grassroots conservatives are a very fickle bunch.

39 posted on 11/13/2008 5:43:17 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up
It occurs to me that maybe they should spread out the battles among the leadership so any one person can't be too much of a target for both the Dems AND the grassroots conservatives.

Not a bad idea at all.

40 posted on 11/13/2008 5:50:50 PM PST by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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