SC priest: No communion for Obama supporters

Ass Press via Breitbart ^ | Nov 13, 2008 | MEG KINNARD

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

Just repeating what the Pope has ordained.

[guido911]

Fair enough. Thanks for the nice, enlightening discussion.

[plain talk]

I think its a stretch to extend what the Pope said to any schmuck who happens to vote for a democrat for reasons that often have little to do with abortion. A lot of people voted for Obama for other reasons - namely Bush, the bailout and the fact many just always vote for dems.

In the report I was familiar with The Pope was talking about legislators themselves who knowlingly sponsored abortion legislation.

http://romancleric.blogspot.com/2007/05/pope-benedict-catholic-politicians-and.html

[DaGman]

Yes, quite. #131 is worded nicely but is an interpretation or opinion.

Nor does #131 address the fact that, according to the Church, one can vote for a choice candidate as long as he/she has done thoughtful introspect into the moral reasons for voting as he/she chooses and has a clear conscience in doing so. For example, if someone votes for a pro-choice candidate because they feel he/she will do more to better economic conditions which are directly related to the rate of abortion, then, they can justifiably have a clear conscience on the matter.

[E. Cartman]

Denying God diminishes you, not Him.

I've never denied God. Only a fool would do that.

[E. Cartman]

The consequences of excommunication are not of this life.

And neither of the next though someone with the intellectual brilliance of an assistant manager of a shoe store authoritatively declares it so.

[narses]

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[E. Cartman]

There must be some fascination for you otherwise you wouldn't spend so much time tugging the nose hairs of Catholics.

Speaking honestly, I'm mystified that otherwise intelligent people regard with such fear the interdict of someone just sufficiently schooled because he's wearing watered silks, burning incense, ringing bells, waving his arms and speaking in a dead language.

There is even a secular beauty in the Communion celebration for people like you to appreciate.

It can be fine theatre, but so too are watching Jews piously praying at The Wailing Wall, or seeing thousands of Muslims in unison bowing in prayer toward Mecca. But all the outward symbols remain just that: Only theatre, which distracts from Christianity's central truths.

[E. Cartman]

But don't be a temporally narrow-minded or chronologically provincial. What matters is not "Is it old?" or "Is it new?" but "Is it true?"

There are more things in this universe that might be, i.e. in the realm of the possible, than are or ever will be. To simply assert something is so, even if you do it in what you regard is a pleasantly aesthetic fashion, does not make it true.

Just because the pope declares something to be so makes it no truer (even if you're moved by his declaration) than a well done stage performance of Peter Pan proves that somewhere in the world there were once pre-pubescent children who could fly.

[E. Cartman]

Failure to consider abortion when voting is a Mortal Sin and they have by that sin excommunicated themselves.

So if we need to know what God is thinking, if he's not available, we can check with you instead? How reassuring to learn there are people who know the mind of God.

[Petronski]

And neither of the next though someone with the intellectual brilliance of an assistant manager of a shoe store authoritatively declares it so.

When did you make that declaration? It seems contrary to your current position.

[E. Cartman]

When did you make that declaration? It seems contrary to your current position.

Ah, now the ad hominem attacks. When you can't attack the person's arguments, attack the arguer. Very convenient.

[Petronski]

You deny His Church, you deny Him.

[Petronski]

Speaking honestly, I'm mystified that otherwise intelligent people regard with such fear the interdict of someone just sufficiently schooled because he's wearing watered silks, burning incense, ringing bells, waving his arms and speaking in a dead language.

Good thing Catholics don't do that.

[Petronski]

There is no ad hominem attack there. Perhaps you do not know the meaning of the term.

[E. Cartman]

You deny His Church, you deny Him.

I assume you'll be bringing out the boiling oil and the thumb screws shortly? Only a fool would think a mortal institution could speak for God.

[Petronski]

I assume you'll be bringing out the boiling oil and the thumb screws shortly?

You assume wrong. I'm not surprised.

Only a fool would think a mortal institution could speak for God.

Stop changing the subject. I am not talking about a mortal institution, I am talking about the Catholic Church.

[E. Cartman]

There is no ad hominem attack there. Perhaps you do not know the meaning of the term.

Zealotry is such an ugly thing, no matter who it's from.

[E. Cartman]

Stop changing the subject. I am not talking about a mortal institution, I am talking about the Catholic Church.

An institution run by mortal men for mortal men, albeit encumbered with pretty ceremonies that obscure the central teaching of The Gospel.

[Petronski]

Zealotry is such an ugly thing, no matter who it's from.

Irrelevant, but correct.