Posted on 11/15/2008 2:27:38 AM PST by bd476
I’ve seen how the media become drama queens during storms so I can kind of relate to what you are saying but...We know hurricanes, freezes, floods, fire, and TORNADOS are going to happen but when they do that doesn’t mean it’s not important or news worthy.
I’m in the Antelope Valley. Last I heard, the 14 and the 5 are closed in both directions. He won’t be able to get up here that way. I presume all other routes are jammed. Not sure if Angeles Crest is open or not.
Hey, Environmentalist stopped a big Flood/Tidal gate on Lake Pontchartrain back in the 70's that would have probably saved New Orleans from flooding during Katrina. So, Those chickens came homse to roost too.
So, chill out. ...it wasn't a personal attack.
KFI said a few minutes ago that LEOs are asking media outlets to report the Oak Knoll mobile home park needs to be evacuated, as it’s “the location of a crime scene.” Never heard of such a thing in the middle of a firestorm, but okay...
Wrong, "most Californians" don't even pay attention to politics, just like the rest of America. 75% of registered CA voters stayed home on the 4th.
Once in a while, some idiot Hollyweird activist gets his due. The other 99.9% of the time it's ordinary Americans whose houses are going up in flames or whose children are coughing up wildfire soot for a month.
Yes, a lot of them were mobile homes... Like the one a friend of ours lived in at that complex that’s been completely destroyed.
Is it news yet?
These fires are moving faster then the firefighters can physically move. Saw one shot from a copter where a business in Corona or Yorba Linda was using a construction water truck to wet trees and buildings as a fire was coming toward them. They were just shooting water out the side of the truck and driving along the parking lot. No firefighters nearby. The DC 10 from Canada is flying over Yorba Linda now !
Then I'm guessing you've never seen what some of the California landscape is like. Why don't you just chill out and come back in a day or two when you have a more realistic outlook on the tragedies that are happening.
Yep, they said a CP had been set up in Corona but the fire has moved so far so fast, it’s already being moved. All within, like, an hour.
KFI reported a new fire start at Rancho Palos Verdes, but luckily it’s burning unpopulated areas toward the ocean.
You don't get it...You can't clear millions of acres of brush that surrounds hundreds of these communities...It would take an army of people working year round *every* year..
In addition, fire breaks are totally USELESS when ya got winds at 60+ miles per hour, driving these fires, blowing embers FAR beyond or across any fire breaks. These fires can and do spot FAR beyond the fire lines or fire breaks.
And this is exactly what is occurring.
Is that on the Palos Verdes Penninsula? If so, that’s a fur piece south.
Last month a fire in San Bernardino actually entered the main city by traveling along the 215 freeway burning the brush in the median and on the slopes. A long line of mainline businesses burned as the live embers were blown over a mile into the city proper.
That is my fear. I am about 4-5 miles from the foothills, but once those winds start blowing these fires could get a few miles into a city.
Two of my wife’s employees and families have lost their homes in the Sylmar fire. Starting about 10:30pm, there is a real question how it started. It doesn’t look good.
600 mobile homes have gone up. Over 200 conventional homes have gone up. This is a terrible loss for a lot of people.
yes. new fire
Yep, here I am, in the middle of areas of the country that have burned again and again and again because California environmentalists, California press and media and run-of-the mill Californians who keep giving credence to idiots have the unmitigated gall to tell people hundreds of miles away how to run their local range and forests.
If Joe-n-Jane California want this type of fire to cease happening, perhaps they’d best get off their buttocks, quit listening to the people who keep preventing proactive fuels management from happening, and *do* something about the fuel loading. That is going to require that common people have the balls to sue both land management agencies and environmentalist organizations who are responsible for the land management policies that have allowed these fuel levels to accumulate.
KNX reports the 57 freeway was just closed.
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