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The United Methodist Church vs. George W. Bush
American Thinker ^ | November 15, 2008 | Matthew May

Posted on 11/15/2008 1:23:37 PM PST by Kukai

"For most of his presidency, he was beset by critics on all sides. He found himself operating in a perpetual cross fire from congressmen, governors, generals, office seekers, ordinary citizens - all dissatisfied, and many sincerely convinced that he was incompetent and leading the nation down the path of destruction."[1] - Douglas Wilson, Lincoln's Sword

"Towards all this external evil, the man within the breast assumes a warlike attitude, and affirms his ability to cope single-handed with the infinite army of enemies. To this military attitude of the soul we give the name of Herosim." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

Years, decades and -- God-willing -- centuries hence, students of American history will look back to the years 2001-2009 and wonder just why was so much vituperation, insult, and venom trained upon George W. Bush. Prologues of biographies and books about the 43rd president's life and administration will feature quotes from writers, pundits and political hacks, senators, congressmen, and candidates declaring the mendacity, malice and criminality of President Bush, a tyrant unlike any other. Such statements, however, will be presented as mockery. As it is with many biographies of Abraham Lincoln, they will be presented as their own words laughing back at them.

Denunciation of President Bush has emanated from seemingly all corners of the world. Few individuals or groups have matched the slurs, lies, and outright hatred that have come from officials of the United Methodist Church (UMC), which incidentally happens to be the church of George W. Bush. Official UMC has portrayed President Bush as a war criminal, wicked and wickedly ignorant; an object of derision unworthy of the church and its educational institutions. They have distorted and denied his accomplishments while distorting and denying the teachings of the founder of Methodism...

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush43; christians; methodists; religiousleft; umc
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To: YankeeMagic
Can someone help me learn more about my wifes Church?

You might try reading up on John Wesely, then compare that with the message being taught. Should be plenty of ammo.

21 posted on 11/15/2008 2:35:27 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: ejonesie22

You sound like you are in the same boat with me, though I must say, the UMC church here in South Georgia doesn’t seem to be quite on the same page as the uppity-ups.

Fortunately, the current crowd will be retiring soon. We can only hope for more intelligent leadership above.

Keep praying!


22 posted on 11/15/2008 2:35:36 PM PST by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: YankeeMagic

As to their position on abortion, the Methodist Church is the largest mainline denomination that supports abortion, it is stated in their book of discipline. That document is full of positions that I am sure would prompt you to reconsider your house of worship, or at the very least what you are funding with your tithe/contributions.


23 posted on 11/15/2008 3:07:23 PM PST by hobie-one
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To: newnhdad

“I attend because my wife is a member and she attends because her mother is a member.”

Yeah, me too. Even though our church is in a rapidly growing suburb, it’s bleeding members. The new assistant pastor is a total pacifist and tries to talk kids out of military service.


24 posted on 11/15/2008 3:14:37 PM PST by henkster (It's time for a conservative "long march through the institutions.")
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To: Liberty Valance

Around here, they are doing their damnedest (not a pun at all) to get to the left of the UCC. It’s enough to make a maggot gag.


25 posted on 11/15/2008 3:22:16 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (All points of view tolerated...as long as they agree with mine.)
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To: I see my hands
I disagree, however, with your read of what leftists wanted on 9/11. I believe they wanted the attacks to continue. I believe they still do.

That's just about the harshest slam of leftists I've ever read on FR. What's your reasoning for thinking so? That's an honest question, not rhetorical.

For the sake of discussion, I'll assume you're talking about the extreme leftists. Most of my family are leftists, and they oppose terrorist attacks.

26 posted on 11/15/2008 3:31:06 PM PST by Our man in washington
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To: Liberty Valance

One Methodist church in Houston, Bering UMC, signed on to the “Queer Jesus” theology/heresy over a decade ago.


27 posted on 11/15/2008 4:06:57 PM PST by Fred Hayek (Leftism is a mental disorder)
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To: Our man in washington
What's your reasoning for thinking so?

On 9-11, just a few hours after the buildings fell, while the pentagon was still on fire, I had two liberals in two different incidents express that they felt that the U.S. deserved the attacks that had befallen us that day.

Anecdotal yes, but when you add the democrats history of throwing every monkey wrench they can get their hands on into the war on terror, you get a clear view of their intent.

Dems have attempted to bestow full constitutional rights on enemy combatants. They have deliberately alienated allies. they have deliberately manufactured lies in order to aid enemies of the U.S.

It is difficult to come to any other conclusion.

28 posted on 11/15/2008 4:08:35 PM PST by bad company (How much easier is self-sacrifice than self-realization)
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To: itsahoot

Yes I know about her.


29 posted on 11/15/2008 4:30:39 PM PST by packrat35 (To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women...)
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To: Our man in washington

"That's just about the harshest slam of leftists I've ever read on FR. What's your reasoning for thinking so? That's an honest question, not rhetorical. For the sake of discussion, I'll assume you're talking about the extreme leftists. Most of my family are leftists, and they oppose terrorist attacks"

You believe leftists. You provide them succor and support, love and cherish them. I don't. That's why you can't even fathom their evil.

You assume incorrectly I'm making reference to extreme leftists. I don't provide leftist with the the excuse of degrees of evil. Not a leftist, not a suicide bomber, nor a child rapist. No one gets to be those things "lite".

I've observed the left all my life. When someone walks down the road of death their destination is death.

You're enabling your family, you're doing them no favors.


30 posted on 11/15/2008 4:58:18 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: YankeeMagic

I’ll advise you to read their “book of resolutions”. The church hierarchy writes like they’re quoting from Kos and DU.
The have a problem with Taco Bell and the Mt Olive Pickle Company, I kid you not. I expected the thing to end with “workers of the world, UNITE!” like the communist manifesto.

I’m sure they’ll put out a few “resolutions” that state how great Obama is at their next convention.


31 posted on 11/15/2008 7:15:03 PM PST by newnhdad (The longest of journeys begins with one step.)
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