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The world has never seen such freezing heat
Telegraph ^ | Nov 16, 2008 | By Christopher Booker

Posted on 11/16/2008 4:49:18 AM PST by Islander7



A surreal scientific blunder last week raised a huge question mark about the temperature records that underpin the worldwide alarm over global warming. On Monday, Nasa's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), which is run by Al Gore's chief scientific ally, Dr James Hansen, and is one of four bodies responsible for monitoring global temperatures, announced that last month was the hottest October on record.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; cold; doomage; freedomisslavery; globalwarming; ignoranceisstrength; junkscience; nasa; warispeace
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This was startling. Across the world there were reports of unseasonal snow and plummeting temperatures last month, from the American Great Plains to China, and from the Alps to New Zealand. China's official news agency reported that Tibet had suffered its "worst snowstorm ever". In the US, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration registered 63 local snowfall records and 115 lowest-ever temperatures for the month, and ranked it as only the 70th-warmest October in 114 years.
1 posted on 11/16/2008 4:49:19 AM PST by Islander7
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To: Islander7

“Global warming” is nothing more than Voodoo Science. If you want to irritate a believer in this nonsense, ask them why the giant glaciers melted 10,000 years ago in north america when no one was driving to work or anywhere else.


2 posted on 11/16/2008 4:53:07 AM PST by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: Islander7
"So what explained the anomaly? GISS's computerised temperature maps seemed to show readings across a large part of Russia had been up to 10 degrees higher than normal. But when expert readers of the two leading warming-sceptic blogs, Watts Up With That and Climate Audit, began detailed analysis of the GISS data they made an astonishing discovery. The reason for the freak figures was that scores of temperature records from Russia and elsewhere were not based on October readings at all. Figures from the previous month had simply been carried over and repeated two months running."

James Hansen of NASA, and Gore's buddy, caught fudging the data, AGAIN! It's amazing how often Hansen fudges the data and never gets slapped down for it. Disgusting!

3 posted on 11/16/2008 4:53:40 AM PST by avacado
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To: Islander7

James Hansen has long ago relinquished any claim he might have had to anyone’s respect as a scientist.

He is oficially a certified hack.


4 posted on 11/16/2008 4:54:33 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: Islander7

It should be about three days before the U.S. msm finds out about this story.


5 posted on 11/16/2008 4:55:55 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Islander7
Simple... hansen and gore are ****ing liars.

LLS

6 posted on 11/16/2008 4:57:50 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (GOD, Country, Family... except when it comes to dims! I am an UMA-unity my a$$)
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To: Islander7; Delacon; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; TenthAmendmentChampion; calcowgirl; Horusra; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

7 posted on 11/16/2008 4:59:49 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: Vaduz
It should be about three daysdecades before the U.S. msm finds out about this story.
8 posted on 11/16/2008 5:04:39 AM PST by reg45
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To: Islander7

The world could be covered in ice and the global warming believing public would still fight to destroy the economies of the world with carbon capping legislation.


9 posted on 11/16/2008 5:10:08 AM PST by Fox_Mulder77
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To: Islander7

Fire James Hansen and defund NASA and NOAA.


10 posted on 11/16/2008 5:10:18 AM PST by JoJo Gunn (Stupid people shouldn't breed.)
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To: Islander7
This is why the Global Warming crowd has changed their rhetoric to say Climate Change.
11 posted on 11/16/2008 5:10:34 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Vaduz

Naw, they will never find it or shoul I say never report on it. Not in three days or three years because they knew from the beginning that global warming is a hoax.


12 posted on 11/16/2008 5:12:06 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Islander7
Glad to see this "Global Warming" issue is one of the top priorities on the Obama agenda to deal with as soon as he begins his "Rule".

Sadly, it's also one of McLame's top priorities..... how on earth did we end up with "that one" for our GOP candidate anyway?

13 posted on 11/16/2008 5:12:08 AM PST by Lloyd227 (Class of 1998 (let's all help the Team McCain spider monkeys decide how to moderate))
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To: Islander7

Should I send Al Gore my Gas bill for October? We had a few flakes of snow the first of the month, and have had the furnace and fireplace on several days in Oct. We live in Southern Virginia, in is rarely this cold this early in the year.


14 posted on 11/16/2008 5:12:31 AM PST by DYngbld (Aspire to inspire before you expire)
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To: Fox_Mulder77
Has Gore found: yet?
15 posted on 11/16/2008 5:12:36 AM PST by Fox_Mulder77
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To: SkyPilot

Which also means nothing.
Climate Change=a series of unpredictable radical climate alterations caused by mans slow steady growth?

Heres my prediction, low sunspots-hard winter.


16 posted on 11/16/2008 5:16:19 AM PST by omega4179 (FULL MOON OR JUST MASS INSANITY.)
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To: Islander7

Seems to be a pretty normal mid November day here in southern Mi. We got our first few flakes of snow around Halloween and it’s snowing now but will melt before the end of the day. Our first permanent snow won’t be till a week or so either side of Christmas.


17 posted on 11/16/2008 5:16:26 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Robert DeLong

It’s all about sharing the oil wealth.


18 posted on 11/16/2008 5:18:04 AM PST by John 3_19-21 (Tick..Tick...Tick......Count down to when the MSM stops calling it the "White"house.)
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To: Bulldawg Fan
“Global warming” is nothing more than Voodoo Science

“Global warming” is nothing more than Voodoo Science political nonsense to support one-world socialism and empower the liberal demogouges.

Slight expansion of your observation! :)

19 posted on 11/16/2008 5:22:27 AM PST by NewLand (God is still on His throne and He has not changed.)
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To: omega4179
Heres my prediction, low sunspots-hard winter.

We think alike.

:^>

20 posted on 11/16/2008 5:24:50 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Vaduz

Islander7, you are an optimist. They know about it and it’s already down the memory hole. Thank goodness for Steve McIntyre of Climate Audit.


21 posted on 11/16/2008 5:25:23 AM PST by sobieski
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To: Islander7
A GISS spokesman lamely explained that the reason for the error in the Russian figures was that they were obtained from another body, and that GISS did not have resources to exercise proper quality control over the data it was supplied with.

In other words, it's ALL suspect...they are gathering data from a bunch of ACORNs around the world.

22 posted on 11/16/2008 5:26:19 AM PST by NewLand (God is still on His throne and He has not changed.)
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To: Islander7

They have already changed the wording to “climate change” to get ready.
That will cover any weather scenario to be able to keep the scam alive; and most importantly; the dollars flowing.


23 posted on 11/16/2008 5:26:22 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I can't wait for January 20, 2013")
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To: Islander7

Excellent article. Nice to know that some areas of the MSM are still able to print the truth.


24 posted on 11/16/2008 5:29:42 AM PST by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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To: Vaduz

The MSM won’t run this; ever. They’re too invested in worshiping dirt.


25 posted on 11/16/2008 5:37:10 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: HereInTheHeartland

The global credit crisis may save us from the global warming crisis hit they wanted to do on our wallets.


26 posted on 11/16/2008 5:38:57 AM PST by listenhillary (No representation without taxation! ~~ Mark Steyn)
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To: Islander7

If the model isn’t giving us the right answers we start tinkering with it.


27 posted on 11/16/2008 5:39:40 AM PST by Richard from IL
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To: SkyPilot
Looks like the earth is getting ready for a cold one.

To go right along with low sunspots. Walk through the woods and notice the mast, Apple, Oak, Hickory, Walnut, Beech etc. are loaded. Also had an abundance of berries.

The cycle is just repeating every twenty or so years, nothing new or different about it.

People like Gore are able to get away with the lies because a persons perception of history starts with the day they are born.

28 posted on 11/16/2008 5:52:43 AM PST by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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To: Islander7

James Hansen: The PhD who can’t do junior high math.


29 posted on 11/16/2008 5:56:15 AM PST by cookcounty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not why the ship is built." ---Governor Sarah Palin)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

ask them why the giant glaciers melted 10,000 years ago

The best explanation I’ve heard came in a Sunday morning discussion on Fox and it came from the old liberal guy. He said dinosaur flatulence.


30 posted on 11/16/2008 6:04:50 AM PST by millerph
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To: Islander7

A deliberate lie cannot be categorized as a blunder.


31 posted on 11/16/2008 6:07:03 AM PST by Carley (Real Americans love Trigg's mom.)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Democrats again!


32 posted on 11/16/2008 6:07:08 AM PST by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: millerph
Look at how big Lincoln Navigators, Ford Excursions and the such are just to carry around a couple humans. Imagine how big dinasours SUVs were to carry them and their kids around.

Its amazing there is a planet left at all.

33 posted on 11/16/2008 6:14:41 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Islander7
"Another of his [James Hansen] close allies is Dr Rajendra Pachauri, chairman of the IPCC ... a former railway engineer with no qualifications in climate science"

34 posted on 11/16/2008 6:14:52 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Dustbunny

I believe God takes care of his animals by providing extra food if a severe winter is coming. My bedroom is under a large White Oak tree. The acorns are larger than usual and are very plentiful. It sounds as if someone is throwing rocks on my roof when they fall. The noise will keep me awake when the wind blows.


35 posted on 11/16/2008 6:18:20 AM PST by seemoAR
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To: Islander7
I've lived on the Florida coast for 28 years and for all of those 28 years I've heard that Global Warming is raising the ocean's level. But everytime I go to the beach the ocean is in the same damn place it was 28 years ago!.
36 posted on 11/16/2008 6:27:34 AM PST by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Better... The Sun is cooling down.


37 posted on 11/16/2008 6:28:53 AM PST by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven!)
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To: Islander7
Yet last week's latest episode is far from the first time Dr Hansen's methodology has been called in question. In 2007 he was forced by Mr Watts and Mr McIntyre to revise his published figures for US surface temperatures, to show that the hottest decade of the 20th century was not the 1990s, as he had claimed, but the 1930s.

One day if conservatives ever find their voice, we will be lamenting the lost opportunity to lessen the impending ice age with a nice warm blanket of greenhouse gas.

38 posted on 11/16/2008 6:31:33 AM PST by Bertram3
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“....I’ve lived on the Florida coast for 28 years and for all of those 28 years I’ve heard that Global Warming is raising the ocean’s level. But everytime I go to the beach the ocean is in the same damn place it was 28 years ago!....”

Thanks for laugh! I needed that.

I have lived on the Mississippi Coast for 30 years. The Gulf of Mexico is always in the same place too. Strange, eh?


39 posted on 11/16/2008 6:34:31 AM PST by Islander7 (This Atlas is shrugging! ~ I am Joe!)
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To: Dustbunny

I saw the fattest squirrel yesterday, I mean comically fat, and thought “That fella’s getting ready for a long cold, snowy winter.”


40 posted on 11/16/2008 6:35:16 AM PST by Oratam
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To: JoJo Gunn

Bush wouldn’t fire Hansen because he would have had to admit that there was something rotten in the state of Texas.


41 posted on 11/16/2008 6:43:25 AM PST by Melchior
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To: Islander7
The Prophets, Parker and Stone, predicted this more than three years ago, and their prophecy can be seen here

Mark

42 posted on 11/16/2008 6:46:50 AM PST by MarkL
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To: Islander7
The reason for the freak figures was that scores of temperature records from Russia and elsewhere were not based on October readings at all. Figures from the previous month had simply been carried over and repeated two months running.

The error was so glaring that when it was reported on the two blogs - run by the US meteorologist Anthony Watts and Steve McIntyre, the Canadian computer analyst who won fame for his expert debunking of the notorious "hockey stick" graph - GISS began hastily revising its figures. This only made the confusion worse because, to compensate for the lowered temperatures in Russia, GISS claimed to have discovered a new "hotspot" in the Arctic - in a month when satellite images were showing Arctic sea-ice recovering so fast from its summer melt that three weeks ago it was 30 per cent more extensive than at the same time last year.

By happenstance, I was looking at the Arctic daily ice webpage that lets you compare the ice extents for any two days from 1979 until now:

http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh

43 posted on 11/16/2008 6:47:15 AM PST by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: Islander7; libertylover

Perhaps this will shed a little light on the subject of Gulf elevation

There is evidence of late Quaternary glaciation on thirteen mountains of central Mexico (~19°N) peaking above 3850 m. Iztaccíhuatl volcano (5286 m) probably has the most complete record in the region. This work presents the late Pleistocene and Holocene glacial chronology of Iztaccíhuatl, the reconstructed equilibrium line altitude (ELA) of glaciers for different advances, and some paleoclimatic implications. The chronology is based on morphostratigraphy, 81 36Cl surface exposure ages, and 3 radiocarbon-dated tephras from Popocatépetl volcano. The ELAs for the past 20,000 years were reconstructed using the terminus-to-headwall altitude ratio (THAR=0.4). The most extensive recorded advance reached ~3000 m and falls within MIS 6 (~190 36Cl ka) (Nexcoalango moraines of White, 1962, GSA Bulletin, 73:935-958). There is no clear evidence of Wisconsin glaciation prior to the LGM. The main advance of the late Pleistocene occurred between 20 and 17.5 36Cl ka, with a mean ELA of 3940 m (Hueyatlaco-1 moraines of White). An ELA depression (compared to A.D. 1960) of ~1000 m is consistent with similar estimates from North America and northern South America for the LGM. After a short recession, massive moraines formed between 17 and 14 36Cl ka, with a mean ELA of 4040 m (Hueyatlaco-2 moraines). This substantial late glacial ELA depression (~900 m) might be related to the cooling effect of Laurentide meltwater flow to the Gulf of Mexico. Glacier retreat occurred slowly from 14 to 13 36Cl ka, then faster between 13 and 12 36Cl ka. Glaciers expanded (mean ELA: 4240 m) and receded from <12 to ~10 36Cl ka (Milpulco-1 moraines). There is clear evidence of an advance peaking shortly before 8.0 36Cl ka, with recession in progress by 7.5 36Cl ka (Milpulco-2 moraines). This could represent the 8200 cal yr BP cooling event of the North Atlantic. The mean ELA of 4420 m implies a depression of ~50% with respect to the maximum ELA lowering of the late Pleistocene. The younger next advance is dated in <1 ka (based on tephrochronology) and likely corresponds to the Little Ice Age (Ayoloco moraines). The mean ELA (4720 m) was depressed ~250 m, equivalent to 24% of the late Pleistocene maximum. As everywhere in the tropics, the glaciers of Iztaccíhuatl have undergone accelerated retreat since the beginning of the 20th century. The current ELA lies around 5000 m.


44 posted on 11/16/2008 6:48:37 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Save America......... put out lots of waferin)
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To: seemoAR

Is this why ACORNs were so plentiful this election season?


45 posted on 11/16/2008 6:49:58 AM PST by MikeNJ
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To: Islander7

AlGore is making too much money, getting too much acclaim for his global warming sermons, to ever admit that he could be wrong or things are not as bad as he claims or that natural events control the temperature.


46 posted on 11/16/2008 7:10:28 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (In Memory of Liberty and Freedom - July 4, 1776 - November 4, 2008)
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To: Carley

“A deliberate lie cannot be categorized as a blunder.”

Exactly. The blunder is in getting caught. Of course, the MSM
focuses a lot more attention on bureaucratic blunders that fit their story-line (how many times have you heard “Heckuva job, Brownie” repeated ad nauseaum?) and tend to ignore the blunders that don’t (or relegate them to p. 16D where they can be confident that most readers will miss them). The Brownies of the world get sacked for their blunders while the Hansens soldier on, fighting the good fight that the MSM hopes they will.


47 posted on 11/16/2008 7:11:43 AM PST by DrC
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To: Bulldawg Fan

“Global Warming” is passe “Climate Change” is the new mantra...do a google search by date and you will see that the MSM is gradually changing their nomenclature, in 6 months time global warming will be gone and the new ice age will still be caused by man under the name climate change....


48 posted on 11/16/2008 7:15:08 AM PST by databoss
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To: Islander7

Global Warming = Luddites.


49 posted on 11/16/2008 7:17:08 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: Islander7

Wish we had some of that global warming down here in Alabama. Tonight suppose to be 30. Then dipping into the 20s the rest of the week. Highs barely making 50 or a little better. Yup, glad to be in the warm, sunny, south. Stinking winds make me think I am in Wyoming.


50 posted on 11/16/2008 7:18:45 AM PST by RetiredArmy (America is entering four very long and cold years. First victim: liberty)
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