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I need some positive reasons why not to plan for a SHTF scenario.

Posted on 11/16/2008 3:15:11 PM PST by rfmad

I am seriously thinking of taking to steps to go to a survivalist approach planning to survuve total chaos and financial and institutional break down. Some one please help me see why this is not going to happen. Thanks


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1 posted on 11/16/2008 3:15:11 PM PST by rfmad
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To: rfmad

I, for one, cannot give you any, let alone good reason as to why you should’t


2 posted on 11/16/2008 3:17:43 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (((The hell with buckling the seat belts - Load the guns!)))
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To: rfmad

Nothing wrong with planning for the worst. If things turn out OK you’re good, if they don’t you’re prepared. No loss.


3 posted on 11/16/2008 3:17:43 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: rfmad; Eaker
I am seriously thinking of taking to steps to go to a survivalist approach planning to survuve total chaos and financial and institutional break down.

Wise plan.

Get busy.

4 posted on 11/16/2008 3:18:28 PM PST by humblegunner (Where my PIE at, fool?)
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To: rfmad

Regardless of today’s events, you should ALWAYS “have a plan” ...


5 posted on 11/16/2008 3:19:03 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: rfmad

6 posted on 11/16/2008 3:19:21 PM PST by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: rfmad

I think everyone should already have such a plan in place regardless of who’s in office because you never know when natural disaster, severe economic downturn, terrorist attacks, or whatever might strike and leave the infrastructure in chaos. Start planning ahead and store up extra non perishable food and bottled water and water purifying equipment, over the counter medicine, ammunition, and other survival necessities gradually. Go visit a Gander Mountain or other such sporting goods store, they usually have some real good stuff for survival situations.


7 posted on 11/16/2008 3:19:35 PM PST by Firefigher NC
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To: rfmad

Can’t help you.


8 posted on 11/16/2008 3:19:36 PM PST by houeto
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To: rfmad
Some one please help me see why this is not going to happen.

Nope, sorry but I dcn't think of a single "Positive" reason not to prepare. Lots of negatives if you don't but no positives.

9 posted on 11/16/2008 3:21:38 PM PST by Blackhawk (God said it, I believe it, That settles it.)
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To: Firefigher NC
Bump for Gander Mountain URL:

Gander Mountain
10 posted on 11/16/2008 3:21:54 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: rfmad

Rotate the Y2K stash each time ennui and angst strikes.


11 posted on 11/16/2008 3:22:23 PM PST by RightWhale (Exxon Suxx)
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To: houeto

Remember the Boy Scout motto.


12 posted on 11/16/2008 3:22:26 PM PST by trickyricky
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To: joseph20

I have to take this to another thread.


13 posted on 11/16/2008 3:22:30 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: rfmad
We are Americans.Hard work and self reliance will carry the day."If we grab them by the ass their hearts and minds will follow".
14 posted on 11/16/2008 3:22:42 PM PST by roofer13
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To: rfmad
survuve

Maybe the French could help you.

15 posted on 11/16/2008 3:22:46 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Freedom's Fortress")
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To: rfmad

If you need something, just call Barack./sarc


16 posted on 11/16/2008 3:23:41 PM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light! WE STAND WITH HER!)
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To: rfmad

Ammo never goes bad, and freeze dried chili gains a certain charm with time.


17 posted on 11/16/2008 3:23:43 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: joseph20; rfmad

I thought this thread might be a joke but apparently FR does have its share of conspiracy theorists/survivalists. Why would anyone think that the election of Barack Obama would lead to a complete breakdown of social order? I realize that his election is a bad thing but it isn’t so bad that we should all start running to hills.


18 posted on 11/16/2008 3:24:30 PM PST by steadfastconservative
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To: neodad

Thanks for making me laugh out loud :)

Je survuve. Peut-etre tu ne survu pas!


19 posted on 11/16/2008 3:25:05 PM PST by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: rfmad
Would you believe junk gold is better than coins.

Argentia meltdown, but was part of his advice.

20 posted on 11/16/2008 3:25:16 PM PST by razorback-bert (Save the planet...it is the only known one with beer!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Excuse me,I have to go try some chili.


21 posted on 11/16/2008 3:25:34 PM PST by roofer13
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To: rfmad
I think it's a perfectly reasonable concern.

Tops on the list would be plenty of ammunition and plenty of bottled water.

Beyond that, I would be thinking about how to teach myself to load my own ammunition [and how to cast my own lead], and how to purify my own water.

To their credit, the Mormons keep a list of things which they are required to have on hand:

http://beprepared.com

http://www.prepare4disaster.com


22 posted on 11/16/2008 3:26:18 PM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: rfmad

It’s wise to prepare for the worst. In fact, it would be irresponsible not to, especially if you have a family.


23 posted on 11/16/2008 3:28:40 PM PST by AAABEST (And the light shineth in darkness: and the darkness did not comprehend it)
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To: rfmad

Preparedness is a good thing. Even if the worst doesn’t happen you’ll be in good shape for garden-variety disasters such as earthquakes and pandemics. Just don’t buy anything with a short shelf life.


25 posted on 11/16/2008 3:29:13 PM PST by AngrySpud (Sarah Palin, my sister in Christ.)
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To: rfmad

If I were you, I would put back $700 billion or so for a rainy day.


26 posted on 11/16/2008 3:29:16 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: rfmad

It doesn’t hurt to keep a few weeks’/months’ worth of frozen and canned foods, bottled water, and powdered milk, etc. on hand. I am starting to do this, getting extra when I shop. This would be good in the event of a disaster or severe inflation. I am a huge Glenn Beck fan, and he recommended this.


27 posted on 11/16/2008 3:30:03 PM PST by OneTimeComment
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To: rfmad

SHTF scenario..................... Like when everybody who has no food or supplies stockpiled, lives their daily lives with $7 in their pocket, 3 credit cards and atm card, then finds out that the banks have closed overnite and ..........


28 posted on 11/16/2008 3:30:13 PM PST by umgud (I'm really happy I wasn't aborted)
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To: rfmad

There’s one thing some of us can’t prepare for. Prescribed medications needed for survival. And that sucks!

I wish I had access to a rural area where I could earn a living. I have a feeling we’re going to need to grow our own food before too long.

You definitely need to be armed. If you have food and others don’t, you’ll need to hold them off for as long as you can. Is that crazy thinking? I don’t know.

Get ready!


29 posted on 11/16/2008 3:30:28 PM PST by Terry Mross ( It's just a matter of time before we're all 'GUILTY' of hate speech.)
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To: rfmad

It doesn’t hurt to keep a few weeks’/months’ worth of frozen and canned foods, bottled water, and powdered milk, etc. on hand. I am starting to do this, getting extra when I shop. This would be good in the event of a disaster or severe inflation. I am a huge Glenn Beck fan, and he recommended this.


30 posted on 11/16/2008 3:30:28 PM PST by OneTimeComment
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To: rfmad

There’s only one thing that I can see that will stop this, and hopes for that are slim and none. Birth Certificate

There... i said it... whatever chaos it brings, it cannot be any worse than what you have accurately predicted.


31 posted on 11/16/2008 3:30:46 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: rfmad

It doesn’t hurt to keep a few weeks’/months’ worth of frozen and canned foods, bottled water, and powdered milk, etc. on hand. I am starting to do this, getting extra when I shop. This would be good in the event of a disaster or severe inflation. I am a huge Glenn Beck fan, and he recommended this.


32 posted on 11/16/2008 3:31:07 PM PST by OneTimeComment
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To: rfmad

One should always plan for shtf. The degree to which one’s preparations fall outside normal daily function depend on the situation. Planning and prep are never a bad thing. By taking an objective look at your current situation, what would be needed for continued function (continuity of operations, or COOP), and the difference between the two can shed some light on one’s needs and requirements.

.02, free advice, “ya get what ya pay for.”

Cheers


33 posted on 11/16/2008 3:32:46 PM PST by petro45acp (Hunkered down in occupied Virginia!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

“... freeze dried chili gains a certain charm with time.”

I knew a guy once who said the same thing about the ham and eggs C-rations.


34 posted on 11/16/2008 3:33:08 PM PST by DugwayDuke (What's more important? Your principles or supporting the troops? Vote McCain!)
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To: rfmad; Lurker; Noumenon; Travis McGee; Eaker; Squantos; joanie-f; betty boop
You should always be prepared for such contingencies. That's why we have a second amendment, a free market, and our liberty. We are supposed to be responsible for providng for and protecting ourtselves and own.

This is not a SHTF mode, this is a normal mode for responsible living.

It's just that large segments of our society has never been taught it, forgotten it, or does not want to be responsible for themselves.

35 posted on 11/16/2008 3:33:52 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: rfmad

http://www.europac.net/archives.asp

Latest fron Peter Schiff says that your worries are well founded.

Gold, Lead, and Scotch, a sound investment strategy.


36 posted on 11/16/2008 3:33:52 PM PST by jonesat
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To: OneTimeComment

Please excuse the triplicate post. I didn’t see the first two, then they all appeared. Just wish I’d said something important!


37 posted on 11/16/2008 3:33:53 PM PST by OneTimeComment
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A bunker, a couple of car batteries, episodes of Monty Python’s Flying Circus and several hundred cans of spam ought to tide you over the apocolypse. Spam spam spam...


38 posted on 11/16/2008 3:34:15 PM PST by figetyfiggs
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To: rfmad

I’m canning pork I got for $1.00 lb as I type just for this scenario. Cheaper than Spam.


39 posted on 11/16/2008 3:35:42 PM PST by MarkeyD (11-4-08 For the first time I can say I am ashamed of my country.)
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To: rfmad

LOL -

I’ve seen folks read all this news of gloom and doom and get so caught up in it all many times.

There is need to be concerned with the things going on, we need to apply pressure where pressure is needed and of course you should be prepared to fend for yourself but not to the point where rational thought goes on vacation.

Just remember, the sun will rise in the east tomorrow and you still have to get up and go to work.


40 posted on 11/16/2008 3:35:49 PM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (An inadequately policed Conservative)
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To: DugwayDuke

That might be pushing it, but I’ve not been 3-day hungry for many a year.


41 posted on 11/16/2008 3:35:59 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: randomhero97

ditto Gander Mountain


42 posted on 11/16/2008 3:36:42 PM PST by Guenevere
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

“To their credit, the Mormons keep a list of things which they are required to have on hand: “

The Fox Fire books are also a good source for this type of information.

Hint for inexpensive storage, Reynolds or ziploc vacuum storage systems. Renolds takes batteries and performs better, ziploc does not.

Cheers


43 posted on 11/16/2008 3:36:59 PM PST by petro45acp (Hunkered down in occupied Virginia!)
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To: steadfastconservative

Are you truly that naive?


44 posted on 11/16/2008 3:37:38 PM PST by Guenevere
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To: rfmad

One should always plan for shtf. The degree to which one’s preparations fall outside normal daily function depend on the situation. Planning and prep are never a bad thing. By taking an objective look at your current situation, what would be needed for continued function (continuity of operations, or COOP), and the difference between the two can shed some light on one’s needs and requirements.

.02, free advice, “ya get what ya pay for.”

Cheers


45 posted on 11/16/2008 3:39:46 PM PST by petro45acp (Hunkered down in occupied Virginia!)
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If you really intend to go survivalist, what are your plans about where you’ll do this. All the guns, ammunition, water and non-perishable foods won’t do you much good if you live in the city or suburbs. Do you have a place where the mobs or whatever can’t easily find you? If not, and you’re serious, your first step is to find a hiddy-hole. Depending upon where you live, that can be very easy or very difficult.


46 posted on 11/16/2008 3:41:04 PM PST by DugwayDuke (What's more important? Your principles or supporting the troops? Vote McCain!)
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To: steadfastconservative

Agreed. We’ll be back up and running in a few years.


47 posted on 11/16/2008 3:42:30 PM PST by sarasota
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To: DugwayDuke

And that’s a lot of our problem. We can’t make a living in Podunk, Arkansas. If we could we’d all move there and it, too, would become a big city.


48 posted on 11/16/2008 3:42:51 PM PST by Terry Mross ( It's just a matter of time before we're all 'GUILTY' of hate speech.)
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To: steadfastconservative

This has nothing to do with Barack on more to do with our Affirmative Action economy. I know local auto dealers that are fearing they are going to have to close down.


49 posted on 11/16/2008 3:43:18 PM PST by MarkeyD (11-4-08 For the first time I can say I am ashamed of my country.)
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To: OneTimeComment

Allow for the possibility the electric power will be out.


50 posted on 11/16/2008 3:43:40 PM PST by RightWhale (Exxon Suxx)
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