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Soviet officer who 'shot down McCain over Vietnam' speaks out
RIA Novosti ^ | 17/ 11/ 2008 | unknown

Posted on 11/17/2008 8:22:06 AM PST by winoneforthegipper

"We were preparing to leave when the sirens sounded again," he said. "Two American F-4 Phantoms flew in. We had two missiles out of six left. The Vietnamese fired first. Their rocket missed, it fell into the jungle. One plane went round the hill, the other came over the bridge. We fired at this one."


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: coldwar; mccain; trushyochkin; vietnamvets; vietnamwar
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To: Candor7

Where did F-15 come from? I don’t think that plane was even around when McCain was shot down.


41 posted on 11/17/2008 9:10:32 AM PST by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: winoneforthegipper

A-4 Skyhawk

42 posted on 11/17/2008 9:16:15 AM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: Red Badger

F-4 Phantom

43 posted on 11/17/2008 9:17:09 AM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: neodad

A-4, F-4, when you’re young and full of vodka they all look alike....


44 posted on 11/17/2008 9:19:04 AM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: Red Badger

I just read this account of that day’s action.

http://www.check-six.com/Crash_Sites/McCain-Skyhawk.htm


45 posted on 11/17/2008 9:27:43 AM PST by winoneforthegipper
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To: F15Eagle
I noticed that too. If this “Soviet officer” doesn’t know the difference between an F-4 and an A-4 he’s not too smart.

Either that, or over the years his brain has been "Yeltsin'ed".


46 posted on 11/17/2008 9:33:13 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama: Satan's Counterfeit Christ)
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To: Travis T. OJustice
What part of Phanton translates to Shyhawk?

The one pilot, one engine, 2 gallons of vodka part.

47 posted on 11/17/2008 9:38:55 AM PST by tbpiper (Now irate and tireless, but mostly irate.)
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To: texas booster
There has never been any official acknowledgment that Soviet soldiers served in Vietnam on the side of the communist North Vietnamese in the 1960s and 1970s. However, Trushyekin, currently in a hospital in Russia's second city of St. Petersburg, had no qualms about speaking about his time in the jungles of Southeast Asia.

I met a guy in Kazakhstan who bragged about being in Vietnam. It was at a birthday party, and he was pretty drunk. When his wife heard what he was saying, she ran up and dragged him away...

48 posted on 11/17/2008 9:43:04 AM PST by Cowboy Bob
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To: cardinal4

>As an aside, the Israelis flew the Skyhawk, too.<

And Argentina during the Falklands War. From:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-4_Skyhawk

“Argentine Air Force Skyhawks sank HMS Coventry (D118) and HMS Antelope (F170) as well as producing heavy damage to several others: RFA Sir Galahad (1966) (which was subsequently scuttled as a war grave), HMS Glasgow (D88), HMS Argonaut (F56), HMS Broadsword (F88) and RFA Sir Tristram. Argentine Navy A-4Qs, flying from Río Grande, Tierra del Fuego naval airbase, also played a role in the bombing attacks against British ships, destroying HMS Ardent (F184).[18]”

And, from what I recall from reading about the Falklands War, had the Argentines known how to properly arm the bombs, the carnage would have been a lot worse...


50 posted on 11/17/2008 9:45:10 AM PST by LRS ("Good-bye freedom/ hello fear/ A brave new world has suddenly appeared")
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To: tumblindice

I noticed. There must have been four posts by the time I wrote mine!


51 posted on 11/17/2008 9:48:00 AM PST by ducdriver (Quantum potes tantum aude.)
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To: 12Gauge687

The F-15 first flew in 1972.


52 posted on 11/17/2008 9:49:54 AM PST by ducdriver (Quantum potes tantum aude.)
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To: neodad
McCain was an A-4 pilot. I think this is BS.

Bump!

53 posted on 11/17/2008 9:51:41 AM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: neodad
That is affirmative! This is Bravo Sierra 5x5!
54 posted on 11/17/2008 9:53:29 AM PST by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: bmwcyle
Right! The article is total Bullshit!

John McCain

"..John McCain's capture and subsequent imprisonment began on October 26, 1967. He was flying his 23rd bombing mission over North Vietnam when his A-4E Skyhawk was shot down by a missile over Hanoi.[33][34.."

Soviet officer who 'shot down McCain over Vietnam' speaks out

".."We were preparing to leave when the sirens sounded again," he said. "Two American F-4 Phantoms flew in. We had two missiles out of six left. The Vietnamese fired first. Their rocket missed, it fell into the jungle. One plane went round the hill, the other came over the bridge. We fired at this one.".."

55 posted on 11/17/2008 10:02:13 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: winoneforthegipper
We shot him down once before and we just did it again.

56 posted on 11/17/2008 10:12:28 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: LRS
The Argentines had a problem with fuse limitations. They only had mechanical fuses that have a little propellor on the front. What they needed was electric fuses.

So the pilots were having a fight with their ordnance guys about setting the fuses shorter than the books allowed. The Argentine Skyhawk pilots were flying like maniacs and delivering bombs on target that were duds.

Not sure what their access to electric fuses or high drag kits were. Hitting a target as big as a ship from that altitude is more a matter of not getting shot rather than hitting the target.

57 posted on 11/17/2008 11:35:47 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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