Pres. Candidate Alan Keyes, AIP leaders [Markham Robinson] Sue Obtain Obama Citizenship Proof

Post Chronicle ^ | Nov 17, 2008

[Cheerio]

It probably says father unknown.

BINGO! I have been waiting for someone to suggest that - it is what I have been thinking for weeks. She slept around with many.

[TruthCanHurt]

Because it explains the details of his CASE, moron.

Try refuting the facts that he is going to present to the court tomorrow vs spouting your ignorance on this forum.

The blogosphere does a better job hunting down facts on things then the media. Take the Global Warming fiasco that the blogosphere just proved that the GISS falsified its OCTOBER data by using August temperatures from Russia in order to claim October was the hottest October ever. When it was actually one of the coolest ones on record.

Take the blogosphere that was the first to prove Dan Rather’s lies.

Consider the 20 lawsuits that are currently going on and try to find out why these are not being summarily dismissed. That is because there is a lot of legs to this story.

[Impy]

In 2004 the corrupt Illinois GOP ran our Republican Senator Peter Fitzgerald out of office and after the new GOP nominee was forced out for alleged taking his wife to a sex club the ILGOP choose Keyes to who they knew couldn’t win to replace him and then proceeded to abandon and undermine his campaign.

[bvw]

Let's consider those 'wacko conspiracy theories' that upset you, eh?

• Clinton's illegitmate lovechild -- While a specific legit case is not known, why would there not be at least a few? To think that there are none, given just the *public record under oath* of his affairs, is unreasonable, unless the man is sterile. To say that there are none is almost the same as saying that Chelsea is not his child. It's possible that Chelsea is his one and only child, but that is less probable, imo.

• Vince Foster -- Ruled a suicide, and left a strange note. In an administration notorious for its lies and cover-ups. A case that begs questions.

• Y2K -- The catastrophe that never was. But there WAS plenty of bad computer code that got examined and fixed. Myself, I worked one problem -- an actual shutdown of the Oceanic Air Traffic Control system that happened exactly at midnight 1/1/2001. No bug found, and problem never re-occurred.

The life philosophy of "Semper Paratus" means that sometimes we do get roped into dithers about some false alarm of a situation. But the three cases you just mentioned were not false alarms. Sometimes, many times I think, things just get left hanging, unresolved. Life moves on. That doesn't mean you learn to turn your guard down -- instead you just learn, sock away the lesson someplace and hope to improve your predictive abilities. But don't fall into submission in front of the cheaters, thieves, liars, and thugs. Bear with the occasioned false and hanging alerts.

[Lmo56]

“Wait... his mother’s name is Stanley? There’s something wrong there...”

Nah - heer kooky father wanted a boy ... named her Stanley

[livius]

Having “father unknown” would be an embarrassment but not a disqualifier. In fact, it would probably even gain him sympathy.

What he’s hiding is a lot more damaging than that.

[pissant]

You mean like those conspiracy nuts that eventually forced Obama to admit to (British crown) Kenyan citizenship at birth?

The nuts who dug up the Reverend Wright tapes?

The nuts who exposed Obama’s lie about his uncle freeing prisoners at Auschwitz.

The ones who exposed Obama’s fictitious account of him being a product of the Selma march?

The ones that dug up his school records in Indonesia exposing his lie that “I have never been a muslim”

The nuts who exposed the doctored photos from AP and Reuters during the Israeli/Hezbollah war?

Yes, nothing but a bunch of nuts out here picking on poor Obama.

[Uncle Chip]

If this document is forged, a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud. They have done it with conspiring officials at the Hawaii Department of Health, the Cook County (Ill.) Bureau of Vital Statistics, the Illinois Secretary of State’s office, the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois and many other government agencies.

And of course Cook County and the State of Illinois and their politicians are known for their stellar trustworthy reputations, right???? Get Real.

If this is a legitimate document, then let him present it in a court of law where, if it has been altered, he will face perjury charges for doing so. But instead he presents it with impunity on a website where gullible idiots fall all over themselves to swallow it.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

The "raging kookiness" will go away as soon as Obama provides the requested documents.

Really? Or will it just move on to "It's a forgery"? That's one of the problems with conspiracy theories. All evidence to the contrary can be spun as evidence of how deep the conspiracy goes.

[panaxanax]

1. Occidental College records — Not released
2. Columbia College records — Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper — “not available”
4. Harvard College records — Not released
5. Selective Service Registration — Not released
6. Medical records — Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule — “not available”
8. Law practice client list — Not released
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate — Not released
10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth — Not released
11. Harvard Law Review articles published — None
12. University of Chicago scholarly articles — None
13. Your Record of baptism— Not released or “not available”
14. Your Illinois State Senate records—”not available”

[Gemsbok]

Kidd,
This lawsuit is said to have eyewitnesses. Is this true? If so, they may need to place them under protective custody.

I took this to mean the those witnesses mentioned in Keye’s case in California with the Independent party referred to the missionairies from Kenya that witnessed a scene at the airport of an upset Ann Obama unable to return to Hawaii.

Several months ago it was reported that witnesses had come forward and stated they recalled boarding a flight that year from Kenya when a very pregnant young white woman was distraught because she was not allowed to board in her advanced condition.

Those with ties to the International missions fields began circulating inquiries.

Then, shortly therafter PC (USA), reported the deaths of our two of our own this summer in the field in Nairobi. They were long retired from field-work, but were returning for a visit to Kenya. Both were brutally murdered upon their arrival in Kenya.

Some of us had speculated that these two deaths were directly related to this BC issue and that is why they were murdered. Those looking have not followed up on the outcome of the murder investigations because of the idea that those leads were gone for good.

It is possible that their statements were documented prior to their deaths.

Or perhaps their statements joggled the memories of others that were also with the missions returning stateside from Kenya.

Christian missionairies are murdered from time to time in Kenya, I just found it odd due to the location of Nairobi and the timing to USA/Kenya issue.

Does anyone have information regarding the current witnesses.

Are they American, British or Kenyan?

[georgia peach]

I agree.

[Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)]

“The Obama camp’s daily talking points are all over this thread.”

Yes, I have noticed.

[bossmechanic]

Suddenly this topic is sucking all kinds of obomaniac attention. Kinda like watching the wagons circle - around a very deep hole.
Yup - gonna get very interesting here shortly.

[marshmallow]

The blogosphere does a better job hunting down facts on things then the media.

The blogosphere occasionally does a better job in hunting down facts. It's also full of rumor, urban legends, hoaxes and conspiracy theories. You need to be extremely circumspect.

Sites much beloved of Freepers such as World Net Daily, News Max, Debka and other assorted trash are not reliable. Don't give me a sermon about the bias of the MSM. I know. That doesn't mean that your own favorite sources are any better.

[Revolting cat!]

Sites much beloved of Freepers such as World Net Daily, News Max, Debka and other assorted trash are not reliable.

Maybe so, but now we have the AIP in Norway!

[pissant]

There is no conspiracy here. Conservatives demand Obama show his original birth documents. He hasn’t done so. So a dozen lawsuits have popped up.

The COLB on KOS and Fight the Smears is questionable, at best.

So we demand originals. Its a $20 item from the registrars in Hawaii. Instead, he pays 10s of 1000s in lawyers fees to keep it from us.

No conspiracy, unless it is on his side of the equation.

[livius]

All those sites are derivative - that is, they get stuff from other sites or news sources and put their own spin on it. Often the articles are ok, but the headlines are hysterical and distorting. Just like the MSM - except that the articles are not ok in the MSM. In any case, WND, News Max, etc. are secondary sources of secondary sources - but there was something true there to begin with, and that’s what you have to look for.

There is obviously something behind this birth certificate story. I didn’t think so initially, but now that it is clear that Obama and the Dems are circling the wagons, there’s no doubt that they’re hiding something.

[marshmallow]

Conservatives demand Obama show his original birth documents. He hasn’t done so.

I don't know if this is a conspiracy or not but this is classic "conspiracy nut" thinking.

We demand that person "X" do such and such. He won't do what we demand? Well, there's only possible reason. He must be hiding something.

A presumptuous, foolish road on which to travel.

[Beckwith]

For we acronym-impaired, would you kindly take an extra couple of seconds and spell out what you have to say.

I’m not stupid, but I have no idea what “SSR,” “CA AIP,” and “PC(USA).

Not knowing what those acronyms stand for makes this post unreadable for me.

Please don’t tell me to Google those acronyms. I did, but I shouldn’t have to.

Here’s an example from acronymfinder.com, using SSR:

***** SSR Simple Sequence Repeat (molecular biology)
***** SSR Security Sector Reform
***** SSR Soviet Socialist Republic
***** SSR Solid State Relay
***** SSR Secondary Surveillance Radar
***** SSR Solid State Recorder
***** SSR Small Screen Rendering (Opera browser on small screen devices)
***** SSR Sustained Silent Reading
**** SSR Symposium on Software Reusability (ACM symposium)
**** SSR Society for the Study of Reproduction
**** SSR Société Suisse de Radiodiffusion (French)
**** SSR Super Sport Roadster (Chevrolet)
**** SSR Stock Status Report
**** SSR Special Service Request (airlines)
**** SSR Silent Sustained Reading
**** SSR SmartSwitch Router (Cabletron)
*** SSR Schedule Status Report
*** SSR Software Specification Review
*** SSR School Science Review (UK journal of the Association for Science Education)
*** SSR Single Sequence Repeat

Thanks . . .