Posted on 11/20/2008 11:46:54 PM PST by STARWISE
A case that challenges President-elect Barack Obama's name on the 2008 election ballot citing questions over his citizenship has been scheduled for a "conference" at the U.S. Supreme Court.
Conferences are private meetings of the justices at which they review cases and decide which ones to accept for formal review.
This case is set for a conference Dec. 5, just 10 days before the Electoral College is scheduled to meet to make formal the election of Obama as the nation's next president.
The Supreme Court's website listed the date for the case brought by Leo C. Donofrio against Nina Wells, the secretary of state in New Jersey, over not only Obama's name on the 2008 election ballot but those of two others, Sen. John McCain and Roger Calero.
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>>>how did the messiah-elect get back into the country when he traveled to Pakistan circa 1980? U.S. Passport? If so, was it ever renewed? It seems strange that the most famous “citizen of the world” never left the continental U.S. after his trip Pakistan. Any comments?<<<
>>>HMMM. And then there were all those questions about why he hadn’t seen the situation in Iraq firsthand.<<<
>>>Would be an explanation for why he was so reluctant to visit our trope’s....Wasn’t sure his paper work was in order or afraid that a trip would alert officials to previous trips and passports.<<<
Obama went to Kenya to campaign for Odinga.
We're talking actual riots, arson, killings. The MSM will aid and abet. Constitutional crisis. Unprecedented.
They will say, "Why was this not discovered before the election? It must be a desperate last gasp from the GOP."
After all, the people have spoken decisively. Blacks are almost unanimous. Whites voted to punish Bush. Jews voted to abandon Israel. Muslims voted the obvious choice. Atheists and abortionists voted the obvious choice. Communists and socialists voted the obvious choice. The entire WORLD voted for Obama.
A perfectly legal, computer printed birth certificate will be produced. Logical explanations will be offered. The One is about to rule.
Deeper research and investigation into this matter finds that the
STAGING FOR THE DEFENSE OF THE ELIGIBILITY
question appears to have been addressed by a contingent of lawmakers earlier this year in the form of Congressional Resolution 511, a resolution co-sponsored by OBAMA himself.
UNDER THE GUISE of putting to rest any objection to Senator John
McCain’s eligibility to become our nation’s President because he was
born outside of the U.S., the media fell all over themselves by as
they praised Obama’s sense of fair play as illustrated by such
headlines and articles as: Obama Backs Law That Aids McCain,
(Washington Post, March 1, 2008) and Clinton, Obama Agree: McCain’s a
“Natural Born Citizen” (Wall Street Journal, April 11, 2008)
-—>Closer scrutiny of this resolution, however, finds that the resolution
actually was expanded far beyond what was necessary to merely apply to
Senator McCain: it was expanded to include naturalized citizens, which
ironically was the “cause of death” for this resolution. <———
“If they do not, there is a precedent of Calero which means Arnold can run.”
...or Fidel Castro, or a 10 year old.
The FOUNDERS of this nation, who wrote it’s constitution and led the revolution, were also dual citizens. They acknowledged that they were inelegible to run for president because of that BRITISH citizenship, and lack of natural born status. So they created the clause 5 of Article II, sec I that grandfathered them in. But note the portion that says, it applies to CITIZENS (formerly British and not natural born) “at the time of the adoption of this constitution”. That means that no one alive can claim this exemption.
From the moment of his birth, Hussein had an actionable claim of citizenship against the British government passed onto him thru his father as a kenyan citizen. Consider this from Obama’s own website:
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
He has admitted to the dual citizenship status that the founders had.
The Framers wanted to make themselves eligible to be President, but they didn’t want future generations to be Governed by a Commander In Chief who had split loyalty to another Country. The Framers were comfortable making an exception for themselves. They did, after all, create the Constitution. But they were not comfortable with the possibility of future generations of Presidents being born under the jurisdiction of Foreign Powers, especially Great Britain and its monarchy, who the Framers and Colonists fought so hard in the American Revolution to be free of.
Due to the circumstances of his birh, Hussein is FOREVER ineligible without a constitutional amendment.
The fact that he never acted upon his Brit citizenship and let it expire is irrelevant.
Read 6463-7 for developing connections & possible reason why
Kenyan BC is hard to locate.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2040486/posts?page=6467#6467
This post contains a great synapsis of SR 511 and how it speaks to laying the groundwork to alter the Constitution to fit this man’s problem of birth.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.retirement/browse_thread/thread/117148313c1867c0
Perhaps you could be the person to list & hook this all together as noted in post #134 ?
Excellent point!
Mind if I say it again, with a shout.
Finally, consider the implications of a man who would undertake these devious machinations to knowingly assume an office that he has no constitutional claim to, and than to see this same counterfeit president elect take an oath to defend that constitution. I believe that such a man would be willing to impose ANY sort or despotism or tyranny upon us to retain power.
THAT, is THE CRUX of the MATTER.
My understanding is that a parent can't to that for a minor child. The child can upon reaching their majority, but not until then.
That would not be the "Short Form". The Short Form is what Obama released a forgery of on daily KOS and later sent another "copy" to FactCheck.org. The short form is just an extract of the data in the state birth records database. The long form is the "real"/"original" BC, and even one based on the affidavit process would still be a "long form", but it would indicate it's genesis. It would not have doctor's signature and might not have the hospital, or it might have the hospital and city of birth.
Actually, they weren't. Upon splitting from England, all of the citizens of the newly-formed US lost their English citizenship.
Clause 5, Article II, Section I needed to grandfather in everyone in the US at that time because, without this provision, there would not have been a single person in the country who qualified for the Presidency until 35 years after independence, since everyone alive at the time had been born in another country.
But that has nothing to do with dual citizenship. The Constitution is clear on what is required to serve as President- a natural-born citizen at least 35 years of age who has lived in the US for at least 14 of those years. If someone meets these requirements, they qualify- their dual citizenship would make no difference.
If it says he was born in Kenya then its clear as crystal that he’s NOT natural born
Of course, if it says he was born in Kenya, 0 will know that before he turns it over, so he will NOT turn it over. The question is will he turn over a forgery or ignore them instead?
Showing another forgery allows the supremes to save face and not force a showdown, if it's at all convincing to a lay persons eye. This is the route I'd bet on, if of course his real BC says Kenya.
There was concern over Goldwater, born when Arizona was a territory, and recently McCain was scrutinized because of his birth in Colon, Panama, off-base. Both were declared to be eligible, though the constitution does not assign the responsibility of checking to anyone explicitly.
There is indeed vetting and checks that occur. In both cases it was done in Congress (I think).
Yes, but this was in 2006, and I read on another thread that he had a passport issued as a Senator that did not require a BC.
AFAIK, there is no official process for vetting whether a President meets the natural-born citizen requirement. I think that is due to the fact that his has never really come up before- every past American President had a pretty straightforward and well-known history. Everyone knew Bill Clinton was born and grew up on Arkansas. Ronald Reagan's life was well-documented decades before he decided to run for President. And so on. Every President before this came from a fairly well-established background. In comparison, Hussein is a cypher.
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