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1 posted on 11/21/2008 4:48:17 AM PST by Kaslin
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I agree 100% with this writer’s analysis of the election. McCain really dropped the ball on the mortgage crisis. Instead of pointing out the role that Democrats played in it, he echoed Obama and just blamed Wall St. While his pick of Palin as as V.P. helped, it wasn’t enough to get the base out to vote.

The only silver lining to this election is that the Republicans might embrace conservatism, if they don’t, then party is doomed to minority status for a long time to come.


2 posted on 11/21/2008 4:58:18 AM PST by steadfastconservative
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Absolutely right that we need to bypass the media. It’s time we find a better way to communicate. Talk radio only works for the faithful, there has to be a way to get beyond the networks and the cable stations. And I include FOX in that statement.


3 posted on 11/21/2008 5:03:14 AM PST by Taichi (Certe, toto, sentio nos in kansate non iam adesse)
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To: Kaslin

Once again the root cause was a lousey candidate, with nothing to offer, no principles, no spine, No McCain!


4 posted on 11/21/2008 5:05:04 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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RE” they will have to find more effective ways to combat the liberal bias in the media, but even more important they need to decide what they stand for and then to stand firm”

Somewhat obvious but how? Right now with economic problems Obama is favored to give out addictive handouts. The natural response of the public is against the bailouts, but wont be for handouts where they get a few $$$. The press beats up on economy and anyone opposed to bailouts until voters are terrified to lose THEIR job, and many believe next bailout is required, a bad cycle.

The message republicans need a (anti-GWB/anti-democrat) message that the national debt is strangling the country,to ask over and over where the money is coming from , China, Japan, and ask how long congress (must sound bi-partision at first) can borrow before democrats will claim they have to take all our money. Ask what will happen when interest rates (or inflation goes up.) In other words deficit mania ala 1992 that got Clinton to raise taxes in 1993. Point out Obama website says ‘restore pay as you go’


5 posted on 11/21/2008 5:06:36 AM PST by sickoflibs (Tired of loss and humiliation?, Then what do we stand for?)
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To: Kaslin

agreed communication is EVERYTHING.

when we have a kook like huffington with a dominant and unopposed voice then we have a problem.

we need a “conservative web ring” to bypass the media and WE HAVE TO RECRUIT.


6 posted on 11/21/2008 5:13:41 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Kaslin

During the recent election season pundits talked constantly about how the deck was stacked against Republicans
I am not interested or worried about Republicans winning. I am more concerned with American Citizens winning for a change and neither Political Party represents that. Government grows like a blackhole sucking the life out of everything else no matter if a Republican or a Democrat is in power. For both parties it has become about them and not about the Country.


7 posted on 11/21/2008 5:15:11 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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All weeny McCain had to do is hold up a list like this one a freeper put together. He could have shown it at every press conference and pointed out how sleazy the dems are.

Original birth certificate ——————————————Unavailable

Obama/Dunham marriage license -————————Unavailable

Soetoro/Dunham marriage license ———————— Unavailable

Soetoro adoption records-————————————— Unavailable

Dept.of Education Hawaii Kindergarten Records-—Unavailable

Punahou School records-——————————————Unavailable

Occidental College records —————————————Unavailable

Passport (Pakistan) -———————————————— Unavailable

Columbia College ——————————————————Unavailable

Columbia thesis ———————————————————Unavailable

(Topic: Nuclear Disarmament, written during Cold War ’83) Harvard College records -——————————————Unavailable

Harvard Law Review articles ———————————— Unavailable

(Evidence that one may have been written, yet it is unsigned) Baptism certificate ——————————————————Unavailable

Medical records -———————————————————Unavailable

Illinois State Senate records -————————————None

Illinois State Senate schedule ————————————Lost

Law practice client list ———————————————— Not released

University of Chicago scholarly articles –—————— None on file Indonesian Besuki School Application—————————Located (Enrolled with name Barry Soetoro-faith “Islam”) Selective Service Registration- -— Released, but suspected as fraudulent

8 posted on 11/21/2008 5:16:31 AM PST by jetson
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The event most attribute Democrat success to — the meltdown at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and the sub-prime mortgage mess — could have been tied to the Democrats considering the connections of Obama advisors like Jim Johnson and Franklin Raines, and with video evidence of high ranking congressional Democrats like Barney Frank thwarting efforts to reign in Fannie and Freddie.


We will have to continue on this subject. This cannot and should not go away. If this economy gets worse there will be an attempt to blame this historically on Republicans. We have to fight this. This is where we all know it started. People need to know how this happened.

I heard an idiot Dem-hack on Mark Levin’s show last night come up with some senseless explanation of how this belonged to Republicans, I would type his perspective but it made NO SENSE to the point I don’t know where to begin in rewriting it.

The best thing to do is when Osama is sworn in; do what they did to Bush—This is “Obama’s watch.” NOW they will have to be on the rhetorical defensive and will have to explain how this is NOT Obama’s fault—they won’t be able to. We can’t let these fools write the history on this.


9 posted on 11/21/2008 5:18:55 AM PST by CommieCutter (The BHO BC issue is like the Loch Ness monster; there's photos, witnesses, and stories.)
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The simple fact is that most people do not pay any attention to politics until a week or so before the election. they then count on Katie Couric, Letterman, The View or Oprah to tell them who to vote for. 70% of single women voted for the O. It is that simple.


11 posted on 11/21/2008 5:22:02 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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There were times during the campaign I wondered who McCain was campaigning for, him or Obama. McCain was the wrong candidate with the wrong message.


12 posted on 11/21/2008 5:22:06 AM PST by engrpat (End the National Nightmare on 1-20-2013)
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To: Kaslin

The way to win - be conservative.


17 posted on 11/21/2008 5:30:36 AM PST by svcw (Great selection of Christmas gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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Rename the party and get rid of all rinos.

Then replace the elephant with a new party symbol:

"Don't Mess With US!

19 posted on 11/21/2008 5:33:17 AM PST by IbJensen (Obombazombies have given America to the Communists!)
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If you have a Conservative enough message, the media will advertise it for you. They'll have fits all over the TV.

People who are paying attention will see the ideas and understand they are good--especially if the libs on TV are screeching about them.

20 posted on 11/21/2008 5:33:39 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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MORE BAD NEWS. Because of changing demographics and the winner take all electoral college system, IT IS VERY UNLIKELY THAT REPUBS WILL WIN ANOTHER PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. The only hope is that they system is changed so that the Presisdent was elected by popular vote or proportional awarding of electors from each state according to the popular vote. The chances that the RATS will allow this or that the repubs are even aware of it are too low to calculate.


23 posted on 11/21/2008 5:55:42 AM PST by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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All you have to do is wait five minutes. The people get to see Dems in power. The end.
24 posted on 11/21/2008 6:02:21 AM PST by JasonC
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Instead of the glass half empty view of the election, I saw some opportunities arise for Republicans.

Clearly, the author of this piece is feeble-minded.

26 posted on 11/21/2008 6:07:09 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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McCain was a castrated ass. Too much reaching over the aisle bull in his lifetime to know any better. Politics is war and all he did was bring a bat to a gunfight and got his clock cleaned. I have no interest in a detente with the enemy, I want to destroy him, vanquish him once and for all. We need leaders that will take no prisoners, will not compromise and will never surrender.


30 posted on 11/21/2008 7:42:08 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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Republicans are afraid of being hated for being conservative

They've let the ideological MSM America-haters bully them. Sad.

Set them all up for spinal implant surgery.

31 posted on 11/21/2008 7:54:12 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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What made things worse, though, is that Republicans never really articulated a coherent overall message and some Republicans did not hold positions different enough from their Democrat opponents to provide an alternative message. The only message that has ever won nationally for Republicans is an unapologetically conservative one.

When John McCain rushed back to Washington to jump on the massive bailout bandwagon it became hard for him to argue that his approach to the problem would be significantly different than that of Barack Obama and impossible to argue that his was a conservative solution.

If Republicans hope to have any chance to win in 2010 and 2012 they will have to find more effective ways to combat the liberal bias in the media, but even more important they need to decide what they stand for and then to stand firm.

Republicans are afraid of being hated for being conservative, so many have gone the “moderate” route, with poor electoral results. If they would stand solidly for conservative principles and policies voters might actually learn what conservatism really is, rather than the stereotypes they have in their heads. Maybe they would even win a few elections along the way.


No truer words have been spoken. When you have economic problems, and the "conservative" ticket of McCain/Palin is supporting the various bailouts, amnesty, etc., they simply aren't going to win, because the undecideds simply won't care if both tickets are similar in key areas, and the true conservatives find it hard to get motivated about voting when the GOP has come down to this.

Towards the end, only thing that would have helped McCain was if Hillary had been on Obama's ticket (or had been the head of the ticket).

Unless the GOP gets its act together and decides to be a lot more conservative, losing by only 200 electoral votes will be a fond memory. A lot of us are tired of compromising our beliefs by voting for candidates like McCain/Palin, etc., and I really think the GOP has reached the end of the line with Conservatives after this last election.
32 posted on 11/21/2008 9:17:22 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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btt


34 posted on 11/21/2008 9:23:10 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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