Posted on 11/21/2008 8:39:45 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
Sponges are among the simplest of multicellular organisms, but they contain an advanced human technology: fiber optics. In a case of reverse biomimetics, scientists have determined that one of the products of proud human engineering was already at work in a lowly sponge...
(Excerpt) Read more at creationsafaris.com ...
The more I study nature, the more I am forced to confess we are fearfully and wonderfully made!
Just think, for evolution to be true, every creature on earth—the simplest of which is sophisticated beyond our wildest imaginations—has to be the product of billions upon billions of chance mutations. That’s quite a run of dumb luck!
Of course not all sponges do this. The Welfare Sponge harvests handouts from the taxpayer and sucks the economy dry.
The full force of this find didn’t hit me until your jaw-dropping comment. Thank you!
I wondered why my brother-in-law seemed to glow. I thought it was his drinking.
Trial and error, with feedback, work wonders.
I saw, within the last couple of days, probably on one of these threads, an example that may help you understand the "billions and billions" bit.
With, say, a dozen dice what are the odds of rolling all sixes? Pretty high, right? That is what you are doing when you suggest the odds against evolution of a particular trait is "billions and billions" against.
But evolution works with trial and error and feedback. A closer analogy would be when you roll that dozen dice you do a second roll with only those that did not produce a six. Then a third roll and so on until they are all sixes. When you do it that way getting all sixes is pretty easy.
That is a much better analogy for how evolution works, with trial and error and feedback.
Did you notice any trumpet shaped spicules embedded in his skin? If so, maybe he’s an oddly shaped sponge :o)
>The more I study nature, the more I am forced to confess we are fearfully and wonderfully made!
Indeed.
Its not just dumb luck. Its luck plus the awesome effect of survivability of the mutation repeatedly tested against reality millions of times in a myriad of individuals.
Mutations that help the individual’s survival and reproduction persist and in turn get more mutations piled on in some descendants later. It never ends. Always testing, bad ones dying out, good ones carrying on....
Dumb luck is the least of it. It’s not dumb at all. It’s reality.
LOL
bacterial flagellum constitute a kind of natural nano-sized 'motor' complete with armature, stators, and bearings. Truly amazing and on the sub-cellular level.
Flagellar Whip Section (Scanning EM)
Flagellar Cap
Flagellar Cap (cont'd)
And believe it or not, there is something even more spectacular that the bacterial flagellum! For more, see the following:
http://creationontheweb.com/images/pdfs/tj/j21_2/j21_2_109-115.pdf
Same goes for elections.....Are we in the trial part or the error part?...........
We've just experienced the error part.
Now comes the trial.
What you fail to note is that you have just presented a teleological example as a 'much better analogy for how evolution works'. Are you now claiming that evolution is a teleological process that has goals? Please show where these goals come from?
Is there an 'eye' goal, a 'brain' goal, a 'human' goal, etc, etc etc that 'evolution' is reaching for?
Is evolution now teleological or are you misrepresenting the arguments again?
Is evolution now teleological or are you misrepresenting the arguments again?
Neither.
The "goal" is survival. Only those who survive to reproduce pass on their genes. That tends to focus the "random chance" in very specific directions.
Trial and error, with feedback, as I said.
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