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The Culture of Conspiracy [JFK assassination and media whitewashing/deflection of commie angle]
Wall Street Journal (2007) ^ | NOVEMBER 24, 2007 | JAMES PIERESON

Posted on 11/22/2008 6:02:05 AM PST by ETL

This week is the anniversary of the tragic day in 1963 [11/22/63, 35 years ago today] when John F. Kennedy was assassinated on the streets of Dallas. Looking back, we can see that Kennedy's death marked a turning point, when the political consensus of the time gave way to the confrontational politics that we associate with the 1960s. The upheavals that followed -- along with the bitter partisanship that disfigured political life in the last third of the century, and whose echoes we still hear today -- can be traced back to that day in Dallas.

The terrorist attack of Sept. 11, 2001, is the only other event in the modern era that compares with the Kennedy assassination in terms of its shattering impact on public opinion. And there are parallels: The 9/11 attacks, like the Kennedy case, stimulated conspiracy theories claiming that either the U.S. government knew what was coming, or that somehow America itself was responsible.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abductions; birthcertificate; ciahit; jfk; jfkassassination; kennedyassassination; leeharveyoswald; magicbullet; patsy
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To: Oldexpat
**** I know some decedents of the Mob in Chicago who believe that the Mob killed JFK. Pay back for going after the Unions. After lots of support from the mob and Chicago machine to get elected..he and RFK turned on them. ****

The ties between the Chicago Outfit and JFK where long and deep. Plus the Outfit and CIA 'had a thing'. And like Oswald, they don't/didn't like being a patsy (sucker) either.

Keep in mind, E Howard Hunt's wife, Dorothy, died in a 1972 Plane Crash while it was in its landing approach into Midway Airport (SW side of Chi). She had $10K in cash in her purse.

(I'll leave it at that.)

21 posted on 11/22/2008 7:23:03 AM PST by Condor51 (Obama believes in Karl Marx. I believe in Sun Tzu.)
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To: quadrant
JFK and the Southern Democrats, with whom the Holy Virgin and Martyr, St. John of Massachusetts, voted every time "Civil rights" came up, resisted the movement until he was President.

He (or his equally cynical entourage) then realized what an enormous source of votes jumping on the Civil Rights bandwagon could be. The Civil Rights parade was quite a way down the street when Marilyn's boyfriends started marching.

Also, most "assassination experts" inexplicably overlook LHO's sojourn in the USSR, seeming to completely buy the KGB story that they "had no interest" in him, which they floated via a series of defectors whose genuine-ness is still the subject of controversy. The internecine warfare over this point wrecked the CIA's effectiveness for quite a while

Me? I think Fidel was in it up to his eyeballs. I seriously consider the possibility that Fidel promised Carlos Marcello and Santo Traficante a better deal than the Kennedys and the CIA. Maybe payback for the Kennedy Brothers trying to bump him off.

Still doesn't solve anything, but it is true that the CIA had been penetrated by the DGI, the Cuban Intelligence Agency, which, although it generally is under everyone's radar, is right up there with the CIA and Mossad in the high level of professionalism in its activities.

22 posted on 11/22/2008 7:27:03 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Looking forward to life under our new emperor, Skippy-o Africanus.)
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To: Condor51; Oldexpat
Pay back for going after the Unions.

Good grief.

23 posted on 11/22/2008 7:32:03 AM PST by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: All

In our 6th annual JFK Assassination Special, a panel of experts including JFK Historian Lamar Waldron, and E. Howard Hunt’s son, Saint John Hunt will share startling new evidence as we close in on finding out who really murdered the late president.

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http://www.coasttocoastam.com/


24 posted on 11/22/2008 7:52:27 AM PST by msnpatriot
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To: ETL
***Pay back for going after the Unions. 'Good grief.'***

I didn't say that.
But there was 'payback' and it was a hit.

[I'll believe Arlen Spector's 'magic, PRISTINE, bullet theory' when pigs fly.]

25 posted on 11/22/2008 7:54:42 AM PST by Condor51 (Obama believes in Karl Marx. I believe in Sun Tzu.)
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To: Oldexpat
The question is..how did they manipulate Oswald?

Oswald had governemnt ties (informant, etc), he "looked" like the perfect assassin ie his defection and associations. I think it would have been easy to set him up by asking him to maybe....place a call at a certain time from the break room at the Depository, so that he'd think he was assisting in some sort of stake out....whatever. I think when he heard that JFK had been shot outside of the building where he worked, he KNEW he'd been set up. I think his actions after this realization are those of a frightened patsy. (why did a Dallas Police squad car stop and honk in front of Oswald's rooming house during the few minutes he was there?)

26 posted on 11/22/2008 7:55:43 AM PST by ALASKA (I feel more like I do today than I did yesterday.....)
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To: ETL
the nation itself was in some way responsible for Kennedy's death . . . National leaders and journalists interpreted [the assassination] in the context of the civil rights struggle -- rather than the Cold War. And this utter misinterpretation has had a damaging effect on Americans' image of themselves and their country.

That was the feeling of such ilk as the dean of journalism the leading Nytimese himself, James "Scotty" Reston. In general the liberals blamed the emerging modern conservative movement's criticism of JFK for causing Oswald to do it.

WE HAD A "FAIRNESS DOCTRINE" BACK THEN, FOLKS. NO MODERN TALK RADIO PERMITTED.

I knew that my memory still worked! See..

The consensus opinion was that Kennedy was a victim of hate and bigotry, a casualty of his support for civil rights. The Cold War and Kennedy's ongoing feud with Castro were rarely mentioned as factors behind the assassination. The reasons? Mrs. Kennedy wanted her husband remembered as a modern-day Abraham Lincoln. Lyndon Johnson feared complicating relations with the Soviet Union. Liberals feared a replay of the McCarthy period, when the Wisconsin senator inflamed public opinion about fears of domestic communism.

WE HAD A "FAIRNESS DOCTRINE" BACK THEN, FOLKS. NO MODERN TALK RADIO PERMITTED.

I did not personally see Walter "The North Vietnamese Communists' most trusted man in America" Cronkite's report but others say he said that Barry Goldwater was asked about the assassination and reacted with a hasty, "No comment." Cronkite was said to have apologized for the false report. That's the way it was. . .

27 posted on 11/22/2008 7:57:55 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Oldexpat

“Mob killed JFK”?Yrs back I read a book(can’t remember title)that postulates that same theory.Makes one think.I believe it’s “possible”.No doubt the mob was highly po’d when(AG Bobby?)started agressively pursuing the mafia.After all,from what i understand they were quite helpfull in getting JFK elected.Lots of mafia influence in Chicago,Boston,NYC,etc via unions.How to manipulate LHO?Not too hard imo.Classic example of a patsi.A little man-desperate for recognition-not to sharp-who was a loser to boot.Jack Ruby-long time mob associate-in turn silences LHO.


28 posted on 11/22/2008 8:00:28 AM PST by Thombo2
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To: Condor51

Let’s do an experiment. You hold a canned ham in front of you and I’ll shoot it with a rifle chambered with a 161 grain bullet traveling at 2000 feet a second.

You should be perfectly safe under your “theory”. You can even leave the canned ham in the can. Deal?

By the way, where are all your magic bullets that somehow hit at right angles, downwards, sideways and then disappeared?


29 posted on 11/22/2008 8:10:12 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: ALASKA

Three people saw Oswald shoot Kennedy from the window. That’s how they had his description for the police radios.

You nutters aren’t too bright. You pick a suspect without even knowing what happened. That’s how OJ missed his conviction.

By the way, it was a movie not a documentary.


30 posted on 11/22/2008 8:15:15 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: Shooter 2.5
I'm sorry, I'm confused. What theory?

Btw, being a shooter you should know or have an opinion on this;

What's the odds, chances, of hitting your target (in the black) that's about 200 feet away with a scoped rifle that was never 'zeroed'? (not even moving, just stationary).

Not trying to be a smart ___, just asking. It's been eons for me since I've fired a scoped rifle.

(I still have the standard iron sights on my two rifles. I keep puting off buying scopes, other things always come up.)

31 posted on 11/22/2008 8:24:25 AM PST by Condor51 (Obama believes in Karl Marx. I believe in Sun Tzu.)
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To: Condor51

Your “theory” that a 161 grain bullet traveling at 2000 feet a second can’t penetrate three inches of flesh.

Again, I ask. Where are all your bullets that traveled at right angles, downwards, sideways and then disappeared?

P.S. Oswald took his rifle to the Trinity River bottoms and also to a local gun range. The first shot that hit Kennedy was at 132 feet. That’s pistol range.


32 posted on 11/22/2008 8:44:39 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: Shooter 2.5
P.S. Oswald took his rifle to the Trinity River bottoms and also to a local gun range. The first shot that hit Kennedy was at 132 feet. That’s pistol range.

Just shows what one motivated Marine and his rifle can do.

33 posted on 11/22/2008 8:46:55 AM PST by dfwgator (I hate Illinois Marxists)
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To: Kenny Bunk
I miss your point, but I will say that Kennedy was not the “liberal” Democrat in the race for the 1960 presidential nomination. Humphrey and others were considered much more to the Left. Kennedy's principal interest was foreign policy. Once, he said that he did not run for president to spend his time worrying about the minimum wage, an issue dear to the Left but about which JFK was all but indifferent.
34 posted on 11/22/2008 8:47:41 AM PST by quadrant (1o)
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To: Thombo2
Psst ...

The Tears of Autumn by Charles McCarry published in 1975, has another "theory" as to who done it.

Something about the demise of Diem in the back of an APC; CIA led coupe d'tat, ...

35 posted on 11/22/2008 8:50:03 AM PST by jamaksin
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To: ETL

Both Kennedys were killed by Leftists. Its what they do.

Pray for W and Our Troops


36 posted on 11/22/2008 8:51:23 AM PST by bray (All thats left of my 401K is some Change and very little Hope.)
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To: Ragnar54

Me too. Now with the correction I feel I need a nap.


37 posted on 11/22/2008 8:51:24 AM PST by mcshot (Bitterly Loving God, Family, Life, Guns and our Constitution - as written!)
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To: Shooter 2.5
*** Your “theory” that a 161 grain bullet traveling at 2000 feet a second can’t penetrate three inches of flesh. ***

No that's not my theory. Maybe I stated something wrong, or left the wrong impression. Of Course that bullet could penetrate 3" of flesh.

*** Again, I ask. Where are all your bullets that traveled at right angles, downwards, sideways and then disappeared? ***

I'm sorry. I still don't understand what you mean by all that? What 'all bullets', 'right angles', 'sideways' etc.

Is it that I said I don't buy the 'Pristine, Single Bullet Theory' that Arlen Spector came up with?

38 posted on 11/22/2008 9:12:14 AM PST by Condor51 (Obama believes in Karl Marx. I believe in Sun Tzu.)
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To: Shooter 2.5

YOU nutters who don’t look at all the facts, completely trust the official version and do not look at it with an open mind are FAR FROM bright. You must not have read my post. If you are talking about the movie JFK, I completely agree that it is a movie ONLY. My opinion comes from reading a plethora of material on the subject AND talking to MANY of the people who were THERE that day, not an Oliver Stone movie. You don’t know what happened, I don’t know what happened. Sounds like you have one source. Run with that Doode. Brighten up!


39 posted on 11/22/2008 9:12:41 AM PST by ALASKA (I feel more like I do today than I did yesterday.....)
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To: ETL
JFK was killed by a lone communist kook; Oswald.

The left has never been able to come to terms that it was one of their own that did it...

So it must be a (right wing) conspiracy... this is no different then the 9/11 “conspiracy's” bs

40 posted on 11/22/2008 9:16:27 AM PST by tophat9000 ( Note: To Obama's Thugocracys... We are all " joe the plumber "...)
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