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To: EagleUSA

Oh, and all you men out there: tell your wives to shut up every once in a while when they are mindlessly spouting emotion-based bullshit. The major reason for our country’s slippage over the past 40 years is that American men have been convinced to be more like European men, namely, wusses who let woman have the influence. American men need to stand up and be men again.


10 posted on 11/22/2008 4:21:55 PM PST by raptor29
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To: raptor29
"Oh, and all you men out there: tell your wives to shut up every once in a while when they are mindlessly spouting emotion-based bullshit. The major reason for our country’s slippage over the past 40 years is that American men have been convinced to be more like European men, namely, wusses who let woman have the influence. American men need to stand up and be men again."

Uh oh. You're obviously a mean, violent, no-good male.

I see a domestic violence charge in your future.

Guilty! Lose your job. Lose your house. Lose your kids. Lose your freedom. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200...

18 posted on 11/22/2008 4:31:14 PM PST by GourmetDan
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To: raptor29

There is absolutely nothing manly about telling your wife to shut up. As a matter of fact, it makes you less of one.


24 posted on 11/22/2008 4:45:16 PM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: raptor29

So, you associate being a man with telling someone to shut up? Are you married? And if so, do you tell your wife to shut up? Or are you one of those guys who tell other guys what to do but wouldn’t do it yourself?

Perhaps your reaction comes from an atmosphere lacking in the proper, mature management of testosterone and how to have a way with women. I’m a woman and telling me to shut up would be up there on the ‘things you don’t say to me’ list.

Real men know how to treat real women. With a self-assured respect.


26 posted on 11/22/2008 4:52:49 PM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism, it's the new black.)
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To: raptor29
all you men out there: tell your wives to shut up every once in a while

Actually I was tough on my kids. My now 30-something daughter told me about 5 or 6 years ago that she wasn't mad at me any more. She thanked me for teaching her to be independent, responsible and competitive. If my husband had told me to shut it, it might have turned out much differently.

33 posted on 11/22/2008 5:10:49 PM PST by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: raptor29
Oh, and all you men out there: tell your wives to shut up every once in a while when they are mindlessly spouting emotion-based bulls**t. The major reason for our country’s slippage over the past 40 years is that American men have been convinced to be more like European men, namely, wusses who let woman have the influence.

I don't know if you meant to tell them "shutup" literally or figuratively, but I wholly agree with the figurative part. With the literal part, it may be necessary sometimes to tell your wife to shutup, but I think it is rarely proper to be disrespectful to your wife, if you respect your marriage. In fact, I think being overly agressive, violent or disrespectful in a situation that doesn't require it is a sign of weakness. People resort to that level of aggression often when they don't have the resolve to stand by their position without inducing the emotional fervor. The best way to handle an out-of-control wife situation, in my opinion, is to be firm but controlled; you simply refuse to be swayed by her hysterics regardless of their intensity, you stay firm in your stance, and you MAKE happen what needs to happen. But don't ever be disrespectful to your wife.

Anyway, you are absolutely right in the overall sense - that men need to be the leaders again. I have seen almost universally, this acceptance among men that the wife/girlfriend is always right. You also see this attitude reflected in just about every TV show and movie out there these days. The "happy" ending is usually when the man realizes that he is an idiot and that he should just do everything the woman tells him. Complete BS, but it is a cultural phenomenon that has been promoted fiercely for the last 30-40 years.

As much as feminism tries to peddle the BS, the fact is that many women are ruled by emotional knee-jerk reactions and will do things and promote actions that are detrimental or even destructive to themselves and others in the long run but that feel good right now. This is where the partnership of men and women comes in - the man MUST be the voice of reason or discipline in these circumstances. If he is lazy, or intimidated, and fails to be firm in his stance, her emotionalism will doom them both, and their children. By the same token, a man that relies strictly on logic or strategy while ignoring the human costs, especially where children are concerned, also has the potential to wreak havoc and cause long-term destruction. We must balance each other, and right now we are WAY out of balance, with the pendulum so far out to the feminine side that a huge conflict is almost inevitable. This must be fixed.

Just my opinion on the subject.
39 posted on 11/22/2008 5:31:08 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: raptor29
American men need to stand up and be men again.

And American women need to learn how to be women.

43 posted on 11/22/2008 5:35:51 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Liberalism appeals to individuals who are emotionally based.)
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To: raptor29
Oh, and all you men out there: tell your wives to shut up every once in a while when they are mindlessly spouting emotion-based bullshit. The major reason for our country’s slippage over the past 40 years is that American men have been convinced to be more like European men, namely, wusses who let woman have the influence. American men need to stand up and be men again.

Oh? Since when did *being a man* include telling women to *shut up* and *putting them in their place*.

So you're saying that the reason this country has slipped back is because men quit bullying their wives?

Nice.....

80 posted on 11/23/2008 6:33:20 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: raptor29
American men need to stand up and be men again.

While your goal is on point, your method leaves much to be desired.
81 posted on 11/23/2008 6:37:52 AM PST by stentorian conservative
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To: raptor29

This may not be the best time for me to address the likes of you. I just had an uncomfortable encounter with a dear sweet woman my husband and I know.

Sarah came to discuss a business matter, as she does several times a week. But this time, she was sporting a bruise under her left eye, and a swollen and bruised nose. She sounded like her sinuses were completely blocked. My husband inquired about her nose, and she sheepishly replied that she had a cold. She then clumsily tried to discuss business, while we all pretended there wasn’t a big elephant in the room.

Until today, Sarah had the confidence that comes with her accomplishments and contributions. Sheepish is not a word that would have applied to her.

Sarah is an occupational therapist. She guides people through the most difficult battles of their lives. I wish I knew how to guide her through the battle she’s facing now. All because some loser decided to do the “manly” thing and tell her, in no uncertain terms, to shut up.

So excuse me if I have zero tolerance for your attitude today.


85 posted on 11/23/2008 7:42:45 AM PST by BykrBayb (May God have mercy on our souls. ~)
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To: raptor29
Oh, and all you men out there: tell your wives to shut up every once in a while when they are mindlessly spouting emotion-based bullshit

LOL! Thankfully my wife doesn't mindlessly spout emotionally-based BS.

But if she did, she would not be my wife (we never would have made it that far).

I think the ability to decide there are certain things which are insufferable and either avoid situations where they become troublesome, or confront them when they do is essential.

There are plenty of other miserable buffoons who opted for style over substance, who are nagged to misery by their 'trophy' brides.

88 posted on 11/23/2008 9:24:26 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: raptor29
Oh, shut up.

Moron.

98 posted on 11/23/2008 12:06:57 PM PST by Allegra
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To: raptor29

If a woman is ranting so hysterically that she refuses to defuse, it means the relatonship is so unhinged that it went on the wrong track a long time before, and most likely both husband and wife share the blame.

In a good marriage, husband and wife have enough mutual respect to (a) want to listen to each other and (b) want to communicate politely and in a rational manner.

What you’re describing is hysteria. Unless you mean mindless drivel. Avoiding marriage with those not suited (goes for both men and women) is vital, as well as being the kind of person that will attract the right kind of person. Marrying solely because of sexual fireworks is a good way to have unadulterated misery later on.


114 posted on 11/23/2008 1:32:35 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: raptor29; BykrBayb; Gabz; ReneeLynn; Allegra; pandoraou812; little jeremiah

Interesting that you should condemn emotional, hormone driven responses by women by advocating an emotional, hormone driven response by men.

Can you say *hypocrisy*?

What a loser....


136 posted on 11/23/2008 3:50:30 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: raptor29

True, Some American Men seem lost and they are slammed daily. Our entertainment industry has been doing this for at least 2 decades. The joke is always on the man, stupid man. The Lifetime Channel, or as we call it here, the Women and Children in Distress Channel, (or as my husband calls it, the Hate Men Channel), perpetuate it.

Then we have all the tv shows and movies where homos are always good or funny and seemingly have no negative traits.

Disagree with you on telling a spouse to shut up. That’s disrespectful. Although, I can think of a few people, men and women, in our social circle I’d like to tell shut up.


174 posted on 11/23/2008 10:14:17 PM PST by Twink
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