[Gabz]

Respect is a two way street;

You are absolutely correct. But then you blow it:

society gives precious little respect to men; is it any wonder that males aren’t “wanting” to me men?

Only those who fall hook line and sinker of the BS that is promulgated by those who wish to ignore the reality of real men fall into that category.

Unfortunately those types do not frequent FR. Unfortunately FR does attract its share of misogynists who are loudly applauded by some. Thankfully, the majority of the FR men are real men who actually appreciate real women.

[berdie]

“Unfortunately FR does attract its share of misogynists”

I have only lurked on this thread. And found some of the posts completely amazing.

IMHO, lack of respect of one human being to another, be it man to woman, woman to man, man to man, woman to woman, human to animal...is a sign of our times.

The turn to liberalism is exhibited as much by men as it is by women.

[Tainan]

There sure is a lot of name-calling, diversionary comments, removal from context and failure to grasp a presented concept happening in this thread.
IMO, its a lot of pent-up anger looking for a place to explode.

I thought that by now, most conservatives would have 1) thicker skin and 2) an understanding of the importance of actually listening to what fellow conservatives are saying.

But what the heck do I know? I'm just a knuckle-dragger who's only been house-broke for 5 years or so.

...cue Rodney King....

[OneWingedShark]

>But then you blow it:
>
>>society gives precious little respect to men; is it any wonder that males aren’t “wanting” to me men?
>
>Only those who fall hook line and sinker of the BS that is promulgated by those who wish to
>ignore the reality of real men fall into that category.

How did I blow it? Tell me that society, in general honors the man’s position? Oh, wait man’s position [provider] is easily filled by a woman, and a man can’t fill a woman’s position [homemaker]. (Actually, this is a lie as much as it is truth; men and women are NATURALLY better at given things, generally speaking... this does NOT negate that they are both human, and able to learn/function-in-non-optimal-conditions.)

Or, if you disagree with the observation that “women are just as good as men” (at whatever), then why is the man oft portrayed as stupid/ineffectual? Despite the man’s general tendency toward “cold hard logic”, somehow it’s feelings, getting along, and relationships that are important? [to the exclusion of rationality/practicality, I mean.]

When I said “is it any wonder males don’t want to be men?” do you think I was being absurdly precise, or using the literary technique of hyperbole?

But honestly, disregarding “self-fulfillment” and all, does society welcome “real-men”? Are they outcasts? Are they castrated, figuratively speaking?

Or would “Real Men” shake up society in a way that would be interesting, in the Chinese sense of the word?