Posted on 11/25/2008 11:19:58 PM PST by neverdem
In a clever ploy he'd have control of the last segment of American government that could oppose him. Imagine how much worse FDR would have been had the court not been able to stop some of his madness. Careful what you wish for, it might come true.
I was adopted a few days after birth.....
I actually have two birth certificates issued for me....
The original for my birth and a second one for my new parents.....
Both are on file in Florida but I can only access the later....Certificate of live Birth vs. Birth Certificate. Both have legal standing but one doesn’t have a “chain of custody” from birth.
Much later in life, my wife and I adopted a beautiful little baby girl, in fact,just a few years ago. Both my wife and myself are listed as Mother and Father on a new issued Birth Certificate by the State of Gerogia. Her original birth certificate was destroyed by the state and neither kept or sealed.
This just illustrates the varied differences in state laws and terminology.
Wait for the crowd of “We need to drop this because it makes us all look bad” group of FR trolls shows up.
I've got one of those for my kids as well as their long form. To get a license, you need one or the other.
I too am bumping this because it is the best article I’ve seen on the subject.
It has occurred to me that Obama could have provided the long form Birth Certificate to Berg under some agreement that still kept the contents secret, as long as it answered Berg’s concern’s about Obama’s birthplace. Such an agreed settlement is often made in lawsuits.
I’m more and more convinced there is some serious issue with the Birth Certificate. If it were merely a matter of some inconvenient truth about parentage, then it could have been handled by secret agreement reached with the judge during the Berg lawsuit.
Ping! Will be leaving soon for the holiday, so HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!
Good point about the privacy, and if I recall correctly it was brought up very early in the Certifigate threads, maybe some time in June or July.
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One of my all time favorite jokes - "How do they say 'EFF you' in Los Angeles?"
"Trust me"
If Obama was found to be ineligible after the fact he could not appoint anyone to anything. In fact everything he had done prior is negated.
Whatever the outcome, adherence to the Constitution is more important than a hissy fit. The Constitution is not there for convenience, it is there for a purpose. We cannot be afraid of the Constitution. If we back down because the lunatics riot then we are not a nation of laws anymore, we have then become a true Democracy, which is mob rule. It will set a precedent, what will be next? One by one the mob will be able to strip of us of our rights so as to avoid a conflict. If it comes to that the Constitution then becomes meaningless.
My birth certificate, issued by Virginia in 1952, is titled “Certificate of Live Birth”
Do you think there is a chance for a mysterious fire in the records section of the records department in HI??
I checked the birth certificates of everyone in our family, from 1958-1996, issued by 4 different states. I have also been the team mom for baseball/football over the past 12 yrs., all kids must provide a birth certificate. I have never run across anything like what he provided. All had the same basic information. I am 45 and recently I had to get a copy of my BC, it is not the long form but, it still had a lot more information than what he produced. The thing that struck me on his COLB was that there was not a embossed seal nor signatures.
Congrats, nevergore - and go DAWGS!
I am looking at my son’s BC right now. It does say State of Georgia Certificate of Live Birth. However, it also has who delivered him, attesting to it being a live birth and the registrars name and signature, along with other info, way more than Obama’s has.
In fact, what I am looking at is a certified COPY of the original(the one you pay $10.00 for) and it also has the signature of the person who reissued it with her actual signature, not a stamped version, and the date that the copy was given to me. It also says Do not accept unless embossed with a raised seal.
You are talking about adoption, Obama was not adopted.
Actually, he was. But that's another story.
ML/NJ
I really don’t see this issue going anywhere, and have rolled my eyes countless times when reading here about Andy Martin or the Africa Press International nonsense (still got that Michelle tape?)
BUT, the one aspect of all this that strikes me is Obama’s ridiculous post-election posturing. We keep seeing the ‘Office of the President-Elect’ seal. You can chalk that up to ego and immaturity, sure. But it reminds me of a Tom Clancy plotline from some years ago. I think it was from Executive Orders.
There was a constitutional crisis concerning Jack Ryan’s presidency. The case was settled because the challenger had referred to Ryan as ‘the president’ and somehow that conferred legitimacy. There’s something about Obama’s constant ‘look at me, I’m President!’ stance that makes my antennae twitch a little...
I knew that.....
The point was that Birth Certificates have a lot of room for interpretation, each State manufactures ficticous info on them all the time.
That’s racist! (sarc off)
In any case, it’s not fair we cannot pick our foreigners we like, and “martyrs” of liberal racism, but liberals can.
On the simple basis of fairness in the game, this case has grounds. In our age of welfarized idiots and genocide by preferences for the weak of character, it’s how it not how it works, however.
There is great danger, however, that this multiculturality lead to a Lebanization of American politics. If we have no genuine American/Lebanese team because we have have so “smallerize” politics with wishy washy PC, are we going to be sitting there and be cheering, say, Brazilians vs. Kenyans in future illegals politics?
This is absurd. What about Americans and the US? Who are we? What are we? It shall be proven apparently, and the world will have its national crucifiction. hmmm
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