Religious Leaders: Churches Should be ‘Nonjudgmental’ about Behavior That Transmits HIV

CNSNews ^ | November 26, 2008 | Pete Winn

[Secret Agent Man]

Their logic is this:

If you say anything bad about people or what they do, you are being negative and hurtful. You must be coming from the angle of hate and disunity.

The second plank of their logic is this: anyone saying good things about people and whatever they do ARE good. They must be supported. They are bringing unity and love to others.

The third plank is opposing and ridiculing, demonizing, ignoring anyone who is critical of others. Particularly when it comes to beliefs or groups of the liberal worldview.

[LiteKeeper]

You have go to be kidding!!!

[tumblindice]

Until I saw the name, I thought this was a real church!

[Joe Boucher]

Maybe the Episcopal church turns a blind eye to lewd immoral disgusting behavior but most churches preach morals/
Most who get aids get it though anal sex or dirty needles.
OH, but it’s ok, we wouldn’t want you to have poor self esteem if you behave like an animal.

[ViLaLuz]

The Great Falling Away is kicking into high gear.

[HondaCRF450]

These "religious" folks are trying to link the treatment of HIV with moral precepts taught in the Scriptures.

It is a two-pronged attack - first, to shame you into supporting funding for HIV (do you need to be shamed?), and secondly, to set up social mores which are contrary to Jewish and Christian moral teaching (hypocrites, all of you!).

This is liberal Christianity, and pure social gospel, without the real Gospel. It wants to celebrate sin for the sake of not being hypocritical or judgmental.

[LomanBill]

[The religious leader called on churches and “faith perspectives” not to engage in what he called “stigma” and “discrimination” – and appealed to Christian tradition to make his point.]

 

 

 

Rainbow doctrine now invokes the term "Christ Centered" - i.e.: if a person rejects homosexual behavior they are not "Christ Centered".

 

In that usage, "Christ Centered" is Rainbow Newspeak for 'Praised be He who permits the forbidden.'  (Sevi Shabbatai) which later emerged as "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" (Aleister Crowley, the founder of modern Satanism).

 

The doctrine is Satanic, not Christian; but the way in which it's being presented is very clever - as one would expect from the masquerading "angel" of light.

 

 

This is how the two opposing doctrines can be distinguished:

 

Rainbow / Satanic doctrine is all about worshiping and indulging the self.

 

 

Christian Doctrine is about worshiping God and sacrificing the self - being reborn daily via Christ's sacrifice.

 

Not the same at all.

 

 

 

[LomanBill]

>>This is liberal Christianity

It’s Satanic doctrine in sheep’s clothing.

‘Praised be He who permits the forbidden.’

Not!

[HondaCRF450]

Call it what you will...

[LomanBill]

>>Call it what you will...

It’s useful to understand the historical nature of the behavior.

It’s the same false-messianic message delivered by Shabbatai Sevi in the 1600’s... and Aleister Crowley 200 years later.

[Carry_Okie]

It’s the same false-messianic message delivered by Shabbatai Sevi in the 1600’s... and Aleister Crowley 200 years later.

With not a little continuity in between.

[mtg]

Interesting that these (so-called) religious leaders are preaching against the Ten Commandments. They probably even doubt the existence of God.

[LomanBill]

>>With not a little continuity in between.

 

Yep.  The same roots can be seen spreading into Deseret.

 

 

 

 

 

[Carry_Okie]

They always were.

If Joe Smith wasn't a Sabbatean he sure fit the profile, as did Charles Taze Russell.

[LomanBill]

>>as did Charles Taze Russell.

 

The Appetite of Tyranny is never far removed from The Tyranny of the Appetite.

 

The Trust bearing his name is a great example of that.

[Carry_Okie]

At that particular phase of history, the goal was to fracture mainline religions by which to break down their political influence. Look at the way the Sabbateans fractured Judaism and drove two of the various pieces toward apostasy while capturing yet another with their messianic fervor. The Jesuits and Masons grabbed right onto that game with the breakup of Protestant Christianity into goodness knows how many sects. Note how many of those were precipitated at the same time.

What it accomplished was to break up lines of communication whereby the people could organize en masse against a statist coup. It was not long after that spate of fads that the secular religion was given its agency through the construction of public schools in the name of unifying "Americanism." Needless to say, the simultaneous destruction of ALL religion then became its unifying precept. The goal was to make a society incapable of self-government, a self-enslaving ethic if you will. It was Gramsci who focused the Marxists on the key weapon in sexual debauchery as a disorganizing principle, as if the Sabbateans need have been told, with Malthusian environmentalism being the reorganizing principle if you will.

[LomanBill]

[the goal was to fracture mainline religions by which to break down their political influence.]

 

 

 

 

 

"The spirit of this city and this nation will not be defeated; our deeply rooted faith sustains us."

 

[LomanBill]

At that particular phase of history, the goal was to fracture mainline religions by which to break down their political influence.

 

 

 

 

One look at this thread...

 

"An Ugly Attack on Mormons"

 

...and the Sabbateans/Secular Humanists/Satanists must be laughing their arses off and declaring "Mission Accomplished!".

 

 

WoW!  Just sad.

[Marysecretary]

This guy is full of it. We’re to love, yes, but we need to speak out against immoral behavior that causes most AIDS. I’m not saying to attack those who have it, but to speak out the truth regarding AIDS, etc.—especially to liberals (GASP).

[Marysecretary]

I agree. The church abdicated its biblical responsibility to feed orphans and widows and take care of the fatherless so the government took over. That’s one consequence of disobedience from the church. It’s time the church stood up and did what God commands us to do.