Posted on 11/26/2008 11:07:48 PM PST by FreeAtlanta
Does this Barack Obama birth certificate issue bug you because, although improbable, it's possible that he's not a natural born citizen, isn't eligible to be President under the Constitution, and this issue could be bigger than Watergate -- or any other "gate" in history?
Are you afraid that if you were even to raise the subject with your friends that they will think you wear a tinfoil hat, because Factcheck.org, the final arbiter of truth in the universe, said so?
Are you with the news media, and after spending so much money to get Barack Obama elected, you'd hate to ruin your investment?
Are you a talk radio host who thinks that if you say the burden of proof needed to demonstrate one is eligible to be Commander in Chief should be at least as high as, oh, say, the level to be eligible for Hawaiian homestead status (see 1.F. below), that you'd be forced to give equal time to someone who disagrees?
Are you a conservative, libertarian, or any conscientious constitutionalist from any ideological side of life, who's convinced something's not right, but you're afraid your reputation might be tarnished because, after all, this could be one big Saul-Alinsky-style set-up, and the joke would be on you?
Fear not! Joe the Farmer has prepared an outline showing that no matter how this issue is ultimately resolved, you have legitimate concerns, and that Barack Obama should, simply out of respect for the nation he was elected to lead, disclose the sealed vault copy of his birth certificate.
Given the circumstances, if Barack Obama respected this nation, he would prove it by the simplest and easiest of gestures - unless, of course, all this talk about change and hope was just a bunch of bull,
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/birthcertificate/index
It is the list of current links to new Birth Certificate postings. Spread the Word!
it is important esp these days because all of us have to prove we can legally work here. He has managed to evade this so far, NO MORE. He is NOT above the law.
I wish that were true.
It would be nice if the Supreme Court would just define for us that a Natural Born Citizen is anyone born on American Soil, or to a citizen, no matter where they were born. That is the common understanding. We don’t need all these resurrected 1950’s laws to drive our thinking on this.
He should not be. But it appears he is. Hell. Some in the press want him to President now ignoring The Constitution. Alarm bells should be going off.
too bad for them. I’ve heard that too. From Obamacrimes.com, here is what he says happens if obama cannot take office...
We are receiving many emails asking what happens if in fact Senator Obama is forced to step down or is removed as the Democratic Nominee. For this reason, we have posted the Democratic National Comittee’s 2008 Call Rules and
Regulations pertaining to replacement of a Democratic Nominee.
In particular, page 19, Section “G” states:
G. Filling a Vacancy on the National Ticket: In the event of death, resignation or disability of a nominee of the Party for President or Vice President after the adjournment of the National Convention, the National Chairperson of the Democratic National Committee shall confer with the Democratic leadership of the United States Congress and the Democratic Governors Association and shall report to the Democratic National Committee, which is authorized to fill the vacancy or vacancies.
so apparently, biden is not an absolute.
Except that is the “nominee” We have had an election. The choice is in the hands of the electors. Dem electors would no doubt choose Hillary. Question is, since the candidate would be illegitimate to begin with, do the Republican electors have a say?
Exactly what Berg was concerned about - a constitutional crisis.
I don’t think these rules will apply since the removal of 0bama would be post-election. It doesn’t seem logical to allow the dems to pick another NOMINEE after the election itself has been ruled invalid. I would hope the SC would simply say that McCain was running against an unqualified opponent which is the same thing as running unopposed, ergo, McCain wins the election.
I agree. I’m going to do some more research in this cause Biden does not necesarilly step in either. I think it should default to the other party, but I am trying to find proof of that.
:) Since the DNC has basically defrauded the country, and the statutes on fraud do not expire, the entire nation should class action law suit against this fraud of a candidate.... Constitutional crisis.
“We don’t need all these resurrected 1950s laws driving our thinking . . .”
USC Title 8, Section 1401? If by “resurrected” you mean `amended’, yes that’s accurate. 1401 was amended in 1994 and Hawaii’s statutes were amended in the 1980s. Old laws are no good? They’re stale? Worn out?
That’s why they’re amended....
Or is that “1950” sounds so much more ominous: water-hosing of black people and police dogs, HUAC, communist witch-hunts, wacky conservatives ...
If not these “resurrected 1950s laws”...then what? Obama’s and the Democrats’ pinky swear? Just cause he says so?
Why are so many freepers giving the benefit of the doubt here to an unabashed marxist who could very well put the blocks to FR in short order?
Ok, it’s late, I’m going to bed.
Look to 1401. That’s waht the SC will look at. They will then look at stare decisis (past cases) and the Framers’ intent.
Like it or not—we’re still a nation of laws. And a republic, if we can keep it.
It makes me furious whenever liberals start quoting Factcheck.org and Politico.com as NON partisan sources to back up one of their many/constant lies!
Bump
Assumes the fact not in evidence that Barack Hussien Obama has respect for the nation.
After what has he ever done that shows he has such respect? Hmmm?
Here is the answer, however if it is a case of defrauding the vote, I bet it would go to the SCOTUS.
Question:
What happens if a candidate dies or becomes incapacitated?
Answer:
If a candidate dies or becomes incapacitated between the general election and the meeting of electors, under federal law, the electors pledged to the deceased candidate may vote for the candidate of their choice at the meeting of electors. Individual states may pass laws on the subject, but no federal law proscribes how electors must vote when a candidate dies or becomes incapacitated. In 1872, when Horace Greeley passed away between election day and the meeting of electors, the electors who were slated to vote for Greeley voted for various candidates, including Greeley. The votes cast for Greeley were not counted due to a House resolution passed regarding the matter. See the full Electoral College vote counts for President and Vice President in the 1872 election.
As to a candidate who dies or becomes incapacitated between the meeting of electors and the counting of electoral votes in Congress, the Constitution is silent on whether this candidate meets the definition of “President elect” or “Vice President elect.” If the candidate with a majority of the electoral votes is considered “President elect,” even before the counting of electoral votes in Congress, Section 3 of the 20th Amendment applies. Section 3 of the 20th Amendment states that the Vice President elect will become President if the President elect dies or becomes incapacitated.
If a winning Presidential candidate dies or becomes incapacitated between the counting of electoral votes in Congress and the inauguration, the Vice President elect will become President, according to Section 3 of the 20th Amendment.
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/previous_questions.html
If you have not already done this PLEASE sign these two online petitions:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81550
AND:
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/stop-obama-constitutional-crisis/
PLEASE pass them on!!
Also, you can write your Senators, Representatives, and the Supreme Court Justices. This is too important to be silent or uninvolved.
Good article here:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81307
One Last Chance to Fight for our Constitution
By Janet Porter
Practical Steps on what concerned Citizens can do NOW
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
High Quality Digital images to show proof that Obama’s Birth Certificate (as posted on Factcheck.Org) is definitely a FORGERY
Researched by Dr. Ron Polarik, PhD
That they can actually say with a straight face that Cheney could resign, then George W, allowing pelosi to become President and she would defer to obama...yeah, when green and purple dotted pigs fly!
That there are people with the ability to be heard and read by the public are stupid enough to be saying this is unfathomable, terrifying and frightening!!!
“Alarm bells should be going off.”
More than damn alarm bells I think. It amazes me that people are ready to so tamely accept the election of an imposter and fraud to the post of Commander in Chief. In fact I cannot believe it.
These are the people who fought the English in order to establish the most free nation on earth?
These are the people who liberated Europe from the Nazis?
What is the US now?? A nation of lamers, whiners and surrenderers??
Look, maybe the BC issue will come to nothing, but if it turns out that Obama is an imposter, and not born in the US, there should be damn hell to pay, and the Democrats should RIGHT NOW be feeling the fear of God over this issue. For God’s sake. Show some spine. Show some anger. Show some fight. Look at what’s at stake here!!!
I repeat. We need to make these people afraid. The lying cheating televison companies and journalists and presenters who have perpetrated this fraud. The scumbag politicians who have been primarily behind it. They need to fear for their damn lives. Its that important. In my humble opinion.
The election wouldn't be ruled invalid. Only the candidate would be ruled ineligible. That may not seem logical, but rember we didn't really vote for a candidate or a slate, we voted for electors pledged to that slate. The laws of many states require not voting for the candidate whose name was on the ballot, but rather for the candiate of the party whom they were elected to vote for. Californial for example.
Will John Roberts be happily content to be played for a fool?
That makes the most sense. If 0-bomb-us were ruled ineligable by the court, the ruling would likely declare that any electors' votes cast for Barry invalid. They would then have the freedom to cast for anyone they choose.
Likely some would go to Biden, some to Hillary, some to McCain. I can just imagine the screeching of "disenfranchisement."
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