[Publius6961]

Interesting story, and it gives me the opportunity to ask a coupla dumb questions.

What is this "long form" "short form" business?

In California it's my understanding that all birth records are public records and accessible by anyone who visits the records office for viewing.

Is that still not the case?
Is Hawaii different?

When did birth records become priviledged information?

I missed the memo.

[Nipfan]

Hawaii IS different in several ways.

Firstly, birth records are private and can only be requested by those involved.

Secondly, Hawaii produces a Certificate of Live Birth, which is a short form birth certificate (this is what has put up on the internet and proven to be a forgery)

Thirdly, at the time Obama was born, Hawaii permitted children born overseas to be registered for birth (which may explain the point above).

[freekitty]

Good point.

Is Obama’s bc public information as others are and can people view this document?

[Jet Jaguar]

Long form.

Short form or COLB.

[FocusNexus]

Do a key word search on “birthcertificate” to catch up.

[GBA]

And forth, Obama had his records sealed. Odd. I mean, why would any one do that unless they just love to stir things up for no good reason or unless they have something to hide?

[jamese777]

Interesting story, and it gives me the opportunity to ask a coupla dumb questions.
What is this “long form” “short form” business?

In California it’s my understanding that all birth records are public records and accessible by anyone who visits the records office for viewing.

Is that still not the case?
Is Hawaii different?

When did birth records become priviledged information?

I missed the memo.

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Can you imagine the identity theft chaos if illegal aliens could easily gain access to certified copies of anybody’s birth certificate?
From the California.gov website:
“Obtaining Certified Copies of Birth & Death Records
Note: Before submitting your application to the Office of Vital Records, please view our processing times to make sure they are acceptable for your needs. If not, you should submit your request to the County Recorder’s Office in the county where the birth or death took place.
At this time, the Office of Vital Records can only accept orders submitted by mail. Please follow the 6 Steps listed below to place your order.
Step 1 – Determine whether you can obtain an authorized copy or an informational copy
In the State of California, authorized copies of vital records can only be obtained by the individual named on the record, parents of the individual named on the record, and certain other individuals or entities specified in law. All other requestors can only obtain informational copies. All copies issued are “certified copies.”

[The_Reader_David]

Yup, Hawaii is different. Birth certificates are released only to persons with a ‘tangible interest’ in the record. The officials in charge seem to regard only relation by blood as the basis for a ‘tangible interest’, or at very least do not regard the verification of meeting Constitutional requirements to serve as POTUS are giving citizens or even electors a ‘tangible interest’ in viewing birth certificates.

[kitkat]

When my daughter, who lives in a different state, needed a birth certificate to get a passport she asked me to get one for her. I went to the town hall of the city she was born in and got one for my daughter simply by showing my driver’s license as I.D. She got her passport with it. Apparently, Hawaii has difference rules, or it claims it does.

[Fred Nerks]

THE OBAMA FILE.

Compiled by FReeper Beckwith:

http://www.theobamafile.com/

[Yo-Yo]

When did birth records become priviledged information?

I missed the memo.

Two words:

1) Identity.

2) Theft.