Posted on 11/28/2008 10:48:14 AM PST by Alex Murphy
Got my bishops crossed....I meant O’Malley - not Mahoney
"Boston Prelate....." ~ that sort of headline doesn't do Boston any good. Still, this guy has been as costly for Boston's people as the Big Dig.
There are people (who make noise on FR from time to time) who really do want Law back so they (or someone) can "do things".
You sure you've followed the case on FR? Sounds like you haven't.
Bishops whose names begin with M.......
“You are too cagey by half.”
Once again - I don’t know what you’re getting at.
“The only reason Boston authorities haven’t asked for him back is they aren’t willing to build a case against him.”
That is what I said.
They took a pass, and so far, no one has even tried to bring him back.
But you seem to be attempting to paint a picture of a man who “fled” and is holed up in a secret hidey hole.
Like I said before - you cannot flee when no one is chasing you.
If someone brought charges, and the Church refused to hand him over - then you’d have something there.
That hasn’t happened.
“Still, this guy has been as costly for Boston’s people as the Big Dig.”
Agreed.
“There are people (who make noise on FR from time to time) who really do want Law back so they (or someone) can “do things”.”
I have no idea what you are talking about.
People can say or think whatever they want.
“You sure you’ve followed the case on FR? Sounds like you haven’t.”
I wasn’t aware I had to filter this news through FR.
I referred to a variety of sources -but the Boston papers did alot of coverage.
And think what you may of the Globe - if it weren’t for that paper, then alot of victims would not have had a voice.
They’d had a voice ~
If so, then this should open the floodgates for sex abuse cases amongst Protestant, Jewish and Muslim faiths as well.
Sex Abuse of Children by Protestant Ministers
Clergy Abuse: Rabbis, Cantors & Other Trusted Officials
This ruling should also make it possible for parents to pursue legal action against the NEA, state and federal governments.
What's behind today's epidemic of teacher-student sex?
Not to mention camp counselors, as well.
Thank you, Alex, for bringing this to our attention and your witness to the Catholic faith.
And if there's a hierarchy lying, protecting, and shifting ministers around from one church to another where they can prey on more kids , those church organizations should absolutely be sued as well.
I still don't understand why some bishops weren't convicted of aiding and abetting these abusers. I can think of one bishop in Louisiana who should have been in jail for a long, long time.
You wrote:
“I’m betting he’s already done so on at least one occasion—but pulled the thread before anyone noticed.”
Happened. Well, that is if you believe your lying eyes.
Thanks for the information. I’ll check those books out.
I don't agree about the "handful" part, but I do agree that there is an element that wish to not only financially gain, but are seeking to cripple this church.
You know this thing goes way back ~ centuries even ~ to a time when the Vatican held vast tracts of land in Italy.
It is one of the oddities of this church because at one time it was as much a state as a church.
They’re worthwhile.
Another to add to the list is Edward Peters, INQUISITION.
Peters shows what is true and what is fantasy about the inquisition.
Good stuff.
If you have evidence to support your assertion, then you have a moral obligation to present it to the proper authorities to ensure that 'civil' justice is achieved. I know of a similar bishop who dodged multiple lawsuits by retaining legal representation from a circuit court lawyer/judge. The bill for those services exceeded $1 million. The one bill no priest or bishop can avoid, however, will be served to them on Judgment Day. May God have mercy on their repentant souls.
If there is one thing that truly bothers me more than this horrific scandal, it is that the media has focused their laser beam on the Catholic Church while ignoring the sex abuse in the publc schools across the US. As a result, the Catholic Church has adopted a policy of intolerance towards future incidences of this nature. Their seminaries have been scrupulously examined and admission policies altered to ensure that candidates for the priesthood have been screened. Meanwhile, thanks to the msm, sexual predators continue to work in schools, daycare facilities and camps. Where is the outrage?
The outrage is right here.
I have read of no school teacher who has abused multiple students and has been transferred from one school to another school repeatedly to cover the crimes. It was the cover up by the bishops that enraged the public. The bishop of my own diocese (not here in Texas, but where I previously lived), transferred one pedophile priest from parish to parish.
Thank you for making my point.
The Death of Outrage?What is also different about the school cases is the level of secondary media coverage it has—or, in this case, hasn't—received.
Yet, media coverage of the Catholic priest abuse scandal was nearly wall-to-wall; every major television news program, every major newspaper and wire service, and most mass market magazines covered the scandal relentlessly.
But, reports the National Catholic Register, a leading faith publication, "a search on the media database LexisNexis for "Charol Shakeshaft" turned up no articles eight days after" the Education Week report.
An online search by NewsMax.com found similar disinterest. Google.com's news database, for example, returned just four entries for "Charol Shakeshaft;" two were Catholic publications.
The Indianapolis Star and Christian Science Monitor only briefly mentioned Shakeshaft's data; the later publication couched her remarks about schools in an article primarily rehashing the Catholic church abuse scandal.
Yahoo.com's news search engine returned only three; two were similar stories from the Indianapolis Star.
The bishop of my own diocese (not here in Texas, but where I previously lived), transferred one pedophile priest from parish to parish.
Same here in Albany and in Massachussets. I am not condoning their actions and, like you, feel justice needs to be served. It's been 6 years and the Church has taken action to prevent this from occuring again in the future. If society still feels it needs to extract more blood from the Catholic Church then it should also pursue legal action against all the other religious faiths who 'hide' predators in their midst and have taken no action to rid their congregations of these menaces. More importantly, they should go after state gov't run schools and programs that are equally culpable.
So, I take it that you know of several school teachers who have been moved from one school to the next even though the administrators knew about their abuse? How sad. :(
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“I have read of no school teacher who has abused multiple students and has been transferred from one school to another school repeatedly to cover the crimes.”
This did happen - and I can definitely think of one case where a known molester was sent on his merry way with a glowing recommendation to an unsuspecting school district.
This happened in the late 70’s.
It doesn’t happen so much now - now the teachers do get fired when they get found out.
Churches without hierarchies are more difficult to sue successfully.
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