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The Quivering Upper Lip -- The British character: from self-restraint to self-indulgence
City Journal ^ | Autumn 2008 | Theodore Dalrymple

Posted on 11/30/2008 6:16:36 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn

When my mother arrived in England as a refugee from Nazi Germany, shortly before the outbreak of World War II, she found the people admirable, though not without the defects that corresponded to their virtues. By the time she died, two-thirds of a century later, she found them rude, dishonest, and charmless. They did not seem to her, moreover, to have any virtues to compensate for their unpleasant qualities. I occasionally asked her to think of some, but she couldn’t; and neither, frankly, could I.

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What, exactly, were the qualities that my mother had so admired? Above all, there was the people’s manner. The British seemed to her self-contained, self-controlled, law-abiding yet tolerant of others no matter how eccentric, and with a deeply ironic view of life that encouraged them to laugh at themselves and to appreciate their own unimportance in the scheme of things.

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Gradually, but overwhelmingly, the culture and character of British restraint have changed into the exact opposite. Extravagance of gesture, vehemence of expression, vainglorious boastfulness, self-exposure, and absence of inhibition are what we tend to admire now—and the old modesty is scorned. It is as if the population became convinced of Blake’s fatuous dictum that it is better to strangle a baby in the cradle than to let a desire remain unacted upon.

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Lack of self-control is just as character-forming as self-control: but it forms a different, and much worse and shallower, character. Further, once self-control becomes neither second nature nor a desired goal, but rather a vice to avoid at all costs, there is no plumbing the depths to which people will sink.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: anthonydaniels; dalrymple; theodoredalrymple
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To: Irene Adler; Frantzie
Wiki says he's a psychiatrist too.
21 posted on 11/30/2008 7:43:10 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: 1066AD

My semi-mistake. I said psychologist MD which is wrong. A psychistrist is an MD. They can perscribe drugs while a psychologist cannot. His writing is A1.


22 posted on 11/30/2008 7:44:32 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

See BRUTAL BRITAIN http://www.brutalbritain.org.uk/


23 posted on 11/30/2008 8:10:21 PM PST by daniel1212 (I sent unto you all my servants the prophets,... saying, Oh, do not this abominable thing)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn; aculeus; neverdem; AnAmericanMother; MozarkDawg; Billthedrill

Daniels/Dalrymple bump. Thanks for posting.


24 posted on 11/30/2008 8:53:43 PM PST by dighton
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Dog-eared for Monday reading.


25 posted on 11/30/2008 9:03:32 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: dighton

Thanks for the ping.


26 posted on 11/30/2008 9:11:53 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
The author attributes the decline of British civil society to various "intellectual and legislative activity" (such as lowering the tax on alcohol), but never mentions the overriding change from a predominantly Christian to a post-Christian culture, perhaps reflecting a personal blind spot in the author.

IIRC, he's admitted to being either an agnostic or atheist.

27 posted on 11/30/2008 9:14:02 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: Frantzie
Theodore Dalrymple is his pseudonym. Anthony Daniels is his real name.

English doctor, writer and social commentator, Theodore Dalrymple (pseudonym of Anthony Daniels), has practised medicine among the very poor and oppressed in several continents and, more recently, at a public hospital and prison in England.

28 posted on 11/30/2008 9:20:23 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
Well, it gets a mention;

they had a state religion, but came to find religious enthusiasm bad form. . .

. . .but given the litany of evils here; could have given it 'greater mention'.

Certainly is a preview and warning; (if not too late already, 'here'). Never cease to be amazed at the level of degradation that much of our culture continues to descend to. Albeit; we are not 'England' - yet, anyway. And there are many fine young people - as I am sure there still are in England(?)

Does show the effects of Liberalism. Also thrown in here are the early 'inflluences' of 'Jerry Springer' TV and many 'ad nauseum' shows; now we have 'reality shows'. Seems 'trash' is King in tv land. . .for too much of the time and it does rise to the top; and we will pay a price for it.

And of course, Nature does abhor a vacuum. . .and so where Religion becomes scarce; nihilism, if only a big zero; fills the 'o's here.

29 posted on 11/30/2008 9:30:13 PM PST by cricket (America's Freedom Rings! Thank You ~ U..S.A. Military~/)
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To: Canedawg
I have traveled all over the world and I visited London in 2006. I found the people to be rude,narcissistic, and drunk.
The youths had bad manners and filthy mouths. Maybe I was in the wrong part of London. I did meet some really nice people thou. They took great pride in their education and appearance. A few years back,I had a British commando friend who was in his late 50's and he was as tuff as nails, yet very polite. Fear was not in his fiber. I also agree that the country has lost it's Christian heritage.
30 posted on 11/30/2008 9:50:09 PM PST by odin2008 (EVIL TRUMPHS WHEN GOOD MEN DO NOTHING)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

I agree with the author. Britain is dead. It will never return.


31 posted on 11/30/2008 10:11:10 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: MrEdd

Actor Ray Winstone: ‘I mean, don’t get me wrong,’ he says. ‘This is not something you want to do. Every time I get on a plane the thing I love is that moment when the captain announces we’re flying over England.

‘You open the shutters on your little window and you look down at all those miles of green fields and think: “This is it. This is England. This is the greatest, most beautiful country in the world.”’

He shakes his head and sighs. ‘But it’s just not great any more, is it?’ He pauses.

‘Let’s be honest. This country isn’t going to the dogs. It’s gone to the dogs. We’re a mess. And do I really want to live in this mess any more? I feel bad saying it, but I’m just not sure.’


32 posted on 11/30/2008 10:59:22 PM PST by flowerplough ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
Daniels is a trained psychiatrist, yet commits the basic error of ascribing to entire populations characteristics properly attributable only to individuals. His writing, superficially impressive, elegantly articulated and not without its insights, succumbs all too often to the inductive fallacy: argument from the incisively analysed particular to an always misanthropic general, with nothing but a brief non sequitur to link the two. Hardly surprising, when one's entire professional life has been spent trying to make sense of the minds of the dregs of society, that one's outlook on humanity at large should become a wee bit unbalanced.
33 posted on 12/01/2008 1:50:28 AM PST by Winniesboy
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To: hinckley buzzard

That’s one of my longtime favorite quotations, as well.

I imagine most Freepers know of Theodore Dalrymple (AKA Dr. Anthony Daniels) and his work-for anyone who doesn’t-he is always excellent-his books and articles are terrific—if his byline is on anything-read it. This article is from City Journal-he’s a regular there, which is almost 100% worthwhile to read, every month and, IMHO, should be bookmarked by anyone interested in modern society, politics, etc.


34 posted on 12/01/2008 2:16:13 AM PST by Mac from Cleveland (Joe Biden behind a microphone is like Ted Kennedy behind a steering wheel)
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To: odin2008

Hmmm, it’s a shame, isn’t it?

As the post above yours stated: Nature does abhor a vacuum. . .and so where Religion becomes scarce, nihilism...fills.


35 posted on 12/01/2008 3:32:45 AM PST by Canedawg (The media is a ass, a idiot.," said Mr. Bumble.)
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To: dighton

bttt


36 posted on 12/01/2008 6:32:44 AM PST by aculeus
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To: odin2008

Well, thats London for you.

We have the same love for London you lot do for NY or LA...lol


37 posted on 12/03/2008 2:27:11 PM PST by the scotsman
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