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33 Posts today about Birth Certificate (Vanity)
vanity | 12/01/2008 | FreeAtlanta

Posted on 12/01/2008 8:57:31 PM PST by FreeAtlanta

I wanted to post this before midnight. I think today is a record for posts about Obama's Birth Certificate. Each day it has tended to grow. Weekends and holidays are a little lighter, but still the story gets up on it's wabbling newborn legs.

Email the FR bookmark link to everyone. Let them know they can get new information here, daily.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/birthcertificate/index


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bc; birthcertificate; certifigate; conman; constitution; fraud; libertytree; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; patriots; presidentialfraud; saveconstitution; savetheusa; snakeoil; stbc
Freep past the Mainstream media and the Elite snobs that won't talk about this!
1 posted on 12/01/2008 8:57:31 PM PST by FreeAtlanta
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To: FreeAtlanta
From AOL. Obama Birth Certificate Rears Its Head - Again By Liza Porteus Viana Dec 1st 2008 2:44PM Filed Under:eBarack Obama, 2008 President, Obama Administration The election may be over, but not the controversy. Just when you thought the flap over the genuineness of Barack Obama's birth certificate was all said and done, in comes the We The People Foundation. The group purchases a full-page ad in The Chicago Tribune - the newspaper of the president-elect's hometown - today and Wednesday, called "Open Letter to Mr. Obama." It's described by the foundation as a "formal Petition for a Redress (Remedy) for the alleged violation of the 'natural born citizen' clause of the Constitution of the United States of America." Click here to view the ad. "Mr. Obama is respectfully requested to direct the Hawaiian officials to provide access to his original birth certificate on December 5-7 by our team of forensic scientists, and to provide additional documentary evidence establishing his citizenship status prior to our Washington, D.C. press conference on December 8," the foundation says. PolitiFact has said it has no reason to doubt the authenticity of the document. Among other complaints, the foundation charges: -that the Obama campaign posted on the Internet an "unsigned, forged and thoroughly discredited, computer-generated birth form created in 2007" -the Hawaii Dept of Health won't confirm Obama's assertion that you were born in Hawaii (the director of Hawaii's Department of Health on Oct. 31 personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.) -there are legal affidavits stating Obama was actually born in Kenya -Obama's grandmother is recorded on tape saying she attended your birth in Kenya. -In 1965, Obama's mother legally relinquished whatever Kenyan or U.S. citizenship she and her son had by marrying an Indonesian and becoming a naturalized Indonesian citizen. We the People is in the process of choosing the forensic scientists who would travel to Hawaii to examine Obama's original birth certificate, if Obama directs Hawaiian officials to provide it. The group estimates costs will be about $20,000 to successfully complete the task, and they need money. Any donors out there? The birth certificate issue is like this annoying itch that just won't go away. During the campaign, the Obama camp tried to stamp out the rumors by posting information - and the birth certificate - on its Fight the Smears site. But that apparently hasn't stopped the rumor mill. A Kentucky truck driver last week filed a demand that Obama prove he is a natural-born U.S. citizen. Daniel John Essek, 47, wants the former Illinois senator to provide a copy of his birth certificate to a federal judge in London for verification. "I may very well be chasing windmills thinking they're monsters," Essek told the Lexington Herald-Leader. A Pennsylvania judge threw out a pre-election court challenge to the citizenship issue, saying its arguments were frivolous. Other similar lawsuits have also been filed. Right Side News on Sunday so graciously pointed out that "Hawaii Revised Statute 338-17.8 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the childs birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence. The parents would be issued a Certification of Live Birth. This is not proof of where the child was born. It only proves that the parents claimed Hawaii as their main place of residence for the prior year." This Friday, the U.S. Supreme Court judges will conference. It's expected the question of whether Obama is actually eligible to become the next president will come up. If four of the nine justices vote to hear the case, brought by Leo C. Donofrio against the New Jersey secretary of state, oral argument may be scheduled. You know the Internet is going to be abuzz with activity surrounding Friday's conference. We'll try to sift through the sludge and bring you the facts. UPDATE: Here's my e-mail Q&A with Bob Schulz of the We The People Foundation: Q.) Why don't you believe that the Hawaiian authorities have vouched for the authenticity of the birth certificate filed with that state for President-elect Obama? The state's Department of Health director on Oct. 31 released a statement verifying the legitimacy of Obama's birth certificate. DOH Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate. A.) Yes, Hawaii officials have publicly verified that they possess Obama's original birth certificate, however in their official press release they fail to state it is an original birth certificate from Hawaii. In fact, under Hawaiian law, a foreign born child can be registered as a naturalized (but not "natural born") U.S. citizen following application of the parents, (See, Hawaiian law provides for registration of out-of-state births under HRS 338-17.8. ). Such persons would be eligible to receive a "Certification of Live Birth" from the state, such as the document Obama has proffered. "Naturalized" citizens, such as the Governor of California, cannot hold the office of President. This of course, does not resolve the thornier issue as to the content of Obama's birth document. Specifically the stated "place of birth" may not in fact reflect the physical location of Obama's birth (as evidenced by the "original" certificate of Live Birth claimed to be in the possession of Hawaii officials), but rather the local Hawaii residency of the U.S. parent claimed in a birth registration application such as that provided by HRS 338-17.8 (See above). In any event the document is simply a computer-created document based upon the entries in a computer database, which may have been conceivably tampered with at some point. Hawaii law also provides for "amending" birth certificates. From the official web page: "Amended certificates of birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as provided by law, for 1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or 2) a person born in a foreign country." In short, the document proffered by Obama does not contain all the information needed to conclusively verify that he is legally eligible to hold the Office of President. Additionally, beyond their refusal to minimally confirm that Obama was born in Hawaii, state officials also refuse to comment on the authenticity of Obama's birth document. All these questions could be resolved by Obama by simply providing access to his original birth certificate. Q.) What reputable sources have discredited the birth certificate already produced by Obama? A.) Attorney Phil Berg states in his lawsuit against Obama, "...three (3) independent Document Forensic Experts performed extensive Forensic testing on the Certificate of Live Birth posted on Obama's campaign website." He has not publicly identified his sources but one of them is reported to be a reputable professional forensics expert going under the pseudonym "Polarik" for his family's protection. His latest comprehensive report concluding Obama's document is a forgery can be found here. He has also posted a short YouTube video. Q.) How much did you pay for these 2 full-page ads (on Dec. 1 and 3)? A.) Tens of thousands of dollars. It was a negotiated amount. Q.) What sort of reaction have you received so far to the ads? A.) We have experienced significant media interest from primarily talk shows and newspapers, including some well-known media entities. We have hoped that our ads would spur public debate on this topic and hopefully, this may have begun. In the end, there is no practical reason why Obama refuses to produce his original birth certificate. He is seeking the Office of President and has a duty to provide evidence that he meets the explicit requirements established by the Constitution.
2 posted on 12/01/2008 9:01:37 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("Control the information, you control the people.")
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To: FreeAtlanta

I am still waiting for the release of the Michelle Obama tape from API.


3 posted on 12/01/2008 9:01:53 PM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (How does one win over terrorists? KILL them with UNKINDNESS)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Accck.... Yes, paragraphs are your friend.

Ooops.. My bad.


4 posted on 12/01/2008 9:02:03 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("Control the information, you control the people.")
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To: EQAndyBuzz

lol, yeah, that hurt my eyes.


5 posted on 12/01/2008 9:03:40 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

My eyes ..


6 posted on 12/01/2008 9:03:58 PM PST by STARWISE ((They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Let’s see if we can get to 35 tomorrow!


7 posted on 12/01/2008 9:06:03 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: FreeAtlanta

Obama Hussein the Kenyan?

Yeah, I heard something was up with his birth cert. thingy.

LMAO


8 posted on 12/01/2008 9:06:18 PM PST by Canedawg (The media is a ass, a idiot.," said Mr. Bumble.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

I like the CertifiGate keyword better.


9 posted on 12/01/2008 9:10:59 PM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: FreeAtlanta

And now, the 34th post.... ;)


10 posted on 12/01/2008 9:15:19 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

A post that hasn’t been done well yet is the one about how barak and the msm snookered McCain.

First there were a barage of articles in the leftist media. Even the new york times ran front page speculations about McCain’s eligibility to be president.

Then came the senate resolution that made McCain eligable for president but made it conditional on several premises that included the definition of “natural born” was uncertain. Followed by the line that obama inserted that included the outright lie that “wheras” some presidents were foreign born.

The drift of the resolution made McCain’s citizenship contingent on Obama’s citizenship. That is, if McCain called Obama’s citizenship into question—his own citizenship status could be called into question.

That is, of course, only if you believe that senate resolutions have the force of law.


11 posted on 12/01/2008 9:15:35 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: FreeAtlanta

BUMP!!!!


12 posted on 12/01/2008 9:20:10 PM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: FreeAtlanta

Isn’t 33 that special freemason number? Coincidence? It’s also on Rolling Rock beer bottles. Again, I ask... coincidence? (BTW, them’s just jokes)


13 posted on 12/01/2008 9:21:15 PM PST by Pantera
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

I hope you aren’t implying that the issue of Obama’s birth certificate (lack thereof) is similar to the API’s claims about a Michelle Obama tape. The two are not comparable at all.

With the Obama birth certificate issue, we are faced with facts that are known. We are faced with a man who wants to be President but refuses to release his birth certificate.

Why do you think Obama is fighting so hard to keep his past a secret?


14 posted on 12/01/2008 9:23:01 PM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: ckilmer
That is, of course, only if you believe that senate resolutions have the force of law.

It was a "Sense of the Senate" resolution, so non-binding. But nice job of searching out the salient facts on which you base your entire post.

15 posted on 12/01/2008 9:26:09 PM PST by Shady Ray
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To: All

Read ‘Obama Birth Certificate Rears Its Head ‘.
Lots of good stuff discussed from plainsradio.com program tonight with Leo, Joe, Cort and Ed Hale re:
‘insider’ calls to confirm Leo’s case will be heard, troops being readied for major cities, march/protest at Supreme Court.


16 posted on 12/01/2008 9:40:50 PM PST by patriot08
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To: All; FreeAtlanta

Make that Thirty Four (at least!) Here’s one from a small paper in North Central Texas:

The question that cries out for an answer (Certifigate)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2141282/posts


17 posted on 12/01/2008 9:56:15 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: FreeAtlanta
I think today is a record for posts about Obama's Birth Certificate. Each day it has tended to grow.

I think this is a "Free Republic" thing. Most people on this site tend to DEFEND the CONSTITUTION. It is something the presstitutes wouldn't understand.

18 posted on 12/01/2008 9:56:43 PM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Hey Martha,You need to start paying attention to this and quit discounting the people who call into your radio show in the mornings concerning this issue.And yes you are correct.You are making us mad as hell.


19 posted on 12/01/2008 10:01:19 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
WE WILL NEVER SEE THE Birth Certificate thanks to EXAndyBuzz.....WE ARE ALL BLIND
20 posted on 12/01/2008 10:40:02 PM PST by Global2010 (God Will see us through. Persevere.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I thought it was Thread and then it gets posts to it.

However yes perhaps an A.M./P.M. update thread would suffice.

Unless there is some significant breaking news about new revelations.....


21 posted on 12/01/2008 10:43:31 PM PST by Global2010 (God Will see us through. Persevere.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

BTW, I found this article on NewsWithViews.com and tried to post it here but got a popup that said “Newswithviews.com material is not welcome here.”

Here’s the section I thought was interesting — she wrote to an Elector and got a scary obamabot response.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter132.htm

The first duty of every Elector is to the Constitution.

The next morning, I received the following response from one of the Electors:

I have put you on my spam service. I will NO longer accept mail from you. I have signed an affadavit that I will vote for my parties candidate. You are asking me to go against this affadavit which not only would cause a large monetary fine but would go against the promise I made in Person to well over 1000 people.

In asking me to go against my written pledge which our state requires you areencourage me to do an illegal thing.

Most of all, I think that President-elect Obama is one of the best things to ever happen to our country. As a life long Democrat and a bi racial son who was killed in action as a soldier; it is my HONOR to cast my electoral vote for him.

As a Christian I ask you not to attempt to correspond now or in the future.

This is exactly as received, name redacted. I, of course, did not respond. My e-mail to this Elector was intended to educate her; either she would choose to be educated or she would choose not to be educated; arguing with her would be of little benefit.

This individual stated her reasons for voting for Barack Hussein Obama. She …

1. thinks that President-elect Obama is one of the best things to ever happen to our country;
2. is a life-long Democrat; and
3. had a bi-racial son who was killed in action as a soldier.

Not one mention of her duty to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America.

As a matter of interest, I researched Washington State law concerning Electors and their pledges. RCW 29A.56.320 states, in part:

Each presidential elector shall execute and file with the secretary of state a pledge that, as an elector, he or she will vote for the candidates nominated by that party.

In the matter of a presidential election, the U.S. Constitution trumps state laws and requirements. That the State of Washington requires this Elector to vote for Obama, irrespective of the fact that he may not be eligible to the office of president, violates the U.S. Constitution. Bluntly speaking, the State of Washington cannot require, nor can a political party require, an Elector to vote for someone whose nomination by their party violates the United States Constitution.


22 posted on 12/01/2008 10:49:38 PM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: All

I was born in Italy at the “Ospedale S. Martino Di Genova”.
So, which hospital was Obama born in?.


23 posted on 12/01/2008 11:18:40 PM PST by paristwelve
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I dont know why anyone doesnt look at the acorn fraud, possible tampering of Venenzuela made voting machines(hint). Or even that he joined college as a foreign citizen, him being a foreign citizen would have made harvard overlook his grades. we will get no where with the birt cert.


24 posted on 12/01/2008 11:21:16 PM PST by 09Patriot (I am a MILITANT Conservative, compassionate conservativism got us NOWHERE)
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To: 09Patriot

WelcometoFR.

(in keeping with the top post formatting)

:)


25 posted on 12/01/2008 11:25:46 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (PALIN 2012: No more RINOS... Ever!!)
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To: Admin Moderator; jimrob

This CertifiGate thing should be added as a hot topic.


26 posted on 12/01/2008 11:26:06 PM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: Kevmo

Perhaps Sarah Palin ought to mention the BC issue obliquely, while she’s campaigning for Chambliss...

Just enough to stir up some liberals.

They’re stupid enough, and irrational enough about Palin, they just might take the bait. Get the MSM off their lazy, useless partisan keisters.

“Here fishy fishy fishy...”


27 posted on 12/01/2008 11:29:41 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (PALIN 2012: No more RINOS... Ever!!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Can you provide a link we can go to and see the ad?


28 posted on 12/02/2008 12:05:28 AM PST by no dems (George W. Bush: America's last White President. ACORN will see to it.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Get the MSM off their lazy, useless partisan keisters.
***Has a nice ring to it. And I like your idea.


29 posted on 12/02/2008 12:17:35 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: Kevmo
People are just wasting time on this junk, if one of his parents is/was a citizen and physically lived in the USA for at least a period of time at his birth, he is qualified.
This is the junk the liberals want us on the right going after. It enables them to paint us as idiot conspiracy theory UFO believing morons.
Unfortunately, given the idiots we kept electing to Congress and the Senate, like Ted Stevens, Trent Lott, Lindsey Graham, John McCain, and many others, I sometimes believe my party is now full of them also.
We need to get back to being the party of low taxes, small government, more liberty, less intrusion in private life, and more opportunity for all instead of this junk.
We need to also realize that our success was in the 1980s was due to a policy of less intervention in people lives and not from a far right push, like the liberal left has always tried, to have the Federal government dictate to people.
30 posted on 12/02/2008 3:26:34 AM PST by Wooly
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To: Kevmo

I have gotten similar angry and disturbed responses from black friends who know down deep that something is wrong with Obama, but just don’t want to admit it. It is usually the ones who are devote Christians. I think it is a response from fighting with their concience. They want an excuse for voting for someone that they really only latched onto because of his skin tone.


31 posted on 12/02/2008 6:03:16 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: Wooly

Have you even bothered to read the rules that make someone a natural “born” citizen?


32 posted on 12/02/2008 6:04:55 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: FreeAtlanta
The point is, do any of you think that Obama is not going to be president as of January? What we as Republicans should be doing is working to take back the Congress come 2010 and then reversing the damage done by W and the Pelosi/Reid regime.
I have watched since the Clinton years, the downward spiral of the Republicans into worrying about BS and not about constitutional governance.
What has running our mouths about Monica, Troopergate, Ron Brown, Abortion, and all the other so called important got us? It has gotten us Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and after today, probably a filibuster proof Senate. Which means we can look forward to universal health care, higher taxes, higher living costs, unlimited abortion, seizure of retirement investments (401Ks place under Federal controls), mandatory union membership, and all sorts of limits on freedom. Yes indeed we need to really go after this birth certificate crap, and show all them liberals that they cannot get away with it . Ha!
33 posted on 12/02/2008 6:48:29 AM PST by Wooly
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To: Wooly
What did running on the "Bush Lied, People Died" and "No WMD" slander get for the Democrats?

If Obama isn't Constitutionally eligible to be president but he is allowed to serve, then I want every American to know of the Democrat Fraud. I want the words (Democrat and Fraud) and (Democrat and Unconstitutional) to instantly be associated in every Americans minds.

As he puts in bad Socialist policies, I want Americans to know what they allowed to happen. Maybe, many of the bad socialist policies won't be pushed forward, because of the BC issue. It might cripple his hard left tendencies?

There is a ton to be gained by showing the world that Democrats don't give a hoot about the Constitution, and then use this issue as a chance to teach people the value of that precious document.

34 posted on 12/02/2008 6:56:51 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: Wooly

People are just wasting time on this junk, if one of his parents is/was a citizen and physically lived in the USA for at least a period of time at his birth, he is qualified.
***Wrong; that means your conditional statement is wrong, and that people are NOT wasting their time on this. Here’s the latest thread where that’s discussed. It’s been covered dozens of times on CertifiGate threads.

Professor Volokh, UCLA Law Prof corrects “Natural Born Citizen” error
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2141124/posts


35 posted on 12/02/2008 12:43:16 PM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: FreeAtlanta

PARAGRAPHS ARE OUR FRIENDS!


36 posted on 12/02/2008 6:52:37 PM PST by Joe Marine 76 (God Save the Republic and God Bless the United States Marines!)
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To: Lorianne

We are at 34.

I don’t want to take away from the Obama Hospital thread by posting too early. That one is on fire! I will settle for 34, if it continues to be hot.

I will stick the total up before midnight.


37 posted on 12/02/2008 8:20:11 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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