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Could John McCain Lose Again?
NRO ^ | December 2, 2008 | Byron York

Posted on 12/02/2008 9:13:14 AM PST by TADSLOS

Phoenix — “Senator McCain, what do you make of Arizonans who think that for the last ten years you’ve been America’s senator, and not Arizona’s senator?”

That, from a local reporter here in Phoenix, was one of the opening questions last week when John McCain held his first press conference since losing the presidential race on November 4. McCain’s purpose was to announce that he will run for reelection in 2010 and to say, in effect, “Remember me? I’m your senator.” The reporter’s question was to remind McCain that a number of people in this state aren’t entirely happy about that. “I’m very proud to have served, and I’m proud during that period to have been elected and reelected,” McCain answered. “I will be glad to point to my record as chairman of the Indian Affairs committee, and Armed Services, and all the other issues and legislative accomplishments, ranging from protecting the Grand Canyon to issues affecting our border and our economy. I’m very proud of my record.”

What a difference a month makes. Off the presidential campaign trail, with the media world focused on the Obama transition office in Chicago, McCain was standing, in front of a small background of American and Arizona flags, before perhaps 15 or 20 reporters, nearly all of them local. And he was talking about Indian affairs and the Grand Canyon. For the next two years, at least, John McCain is again the senator from Arizona.

But now that he has lost the presidency, there are some Republicans in Arizona who would like to see him lose his Senate office, too. “I’ll do anything I can to support his Republican opponent, whoever that might be,” Rob Haney — who until last week was chairman of the Republican party in Arizona’s District 11 — told me recently. Haney has been a loud and vocal critic of McCain for years, arguing that McCain is “not a conservative in any way, shape, or form.”

Haney understands that ousting McCain, who first won a House seat in 1982 and has never lost an election here, would be very, very tough. “It would be a long shot,” Haney admitted. But Haney and other anti-McCain types see some reason for hope. In the Arizona Republican primary this year — which, as part of the Super Tuesday contests, came after McCain had essentially wrapped up the nomination — McCain won just 47 percent of the vote. (Second-place finisher Mitt Romney got 35 percent.) And in the general election, McCain beat Barack Obama by a 54-45 margin — a relatively small margin in McCain’s home state.

Read more at National Review Online


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2010; amnesty; election; hayworth; jdhayworth; juanmccain; mcbama; mccain; mccaintruthfile; mcqueeg; rino; senate; shamnesty
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1 posted on 12/02/2008 9:13:14 AM PST by TADSLOS
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To: dittomom; Cyber Liberty; Slip18

Anybody still have recall petitions stashed away?


2 posted on 12/02/2008 9:15:47 AM PST by uglybiker (1f u c4n r34d th1s u r34lly n33d 2 g3t l41d)
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To: TADSLOS

Bye bye John, don’t forget to write!


3 posted on 12/02/2008 9:16:06 AM PST by Troll_House_Cookies (Ironically, Chancellor Obama's first re-education camp will be in Alaska.)
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To: TADSLOS

I must might give my first $$ to the repulsicans in a long while if they support an ousting of McKennedy - er McDemocrat - er, McCain.


4 posted on 12/02/2008 9:16:12 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: TADSLOS

We can only hope.


5 posted on 12/02/2008 9:17:04 AM PST by bmwcyle (McCain had no honor when he failed to defend Sarah Palin, Leno was not enough)
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To: uglybiker

A waste of time ... Senators cannot be recalled.


6 posted on 12/02/2008 9:18:01 AM PST by NonValueAdded (once you get to really know people, there are always better reasons than [race] for despising them.)
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To: TADSLOS
He will be Senator from AZ until he dies. John McCain isn't going to go away though the saving grace is he'll never run for President again.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

7 posted on 12/02/2008 9:18:43 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: TADSLOS

I never thought I’d ever vote for a Democrat, but if that’s the only choice, I’ll vote Dem over McCain next election.


8 posted on 12/02/2008 9:18:46 AM PST by ducdriver (Quantum potes tantum aude.)
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To: TADSLOS

I wish.

I don’t care what the numbers are in the Senate.

This guy needs to lose.


9 posted on 12/02/2008 9:18:59 AM PST by Soul Seeker (Gov. Sarah Palin '08 -- President Sarah Palin '12)
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To: TADSLOS
Could John McCain lose again?

If he tries hard enough, yes!

10 posted on 12/02/2008 9:19:18 AM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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To: TADSLOS

He’s been screwing us all up for years. GET OUT JOHN! You have a nice home life, go enjoy it! I’m 39 now, but at 72, I pray I get to be a happy Grandad, free of concerns, or maybe even a great Grandad if God will allow. What’s the matter with this old coot?

You’ve done your part for your country a long time ago, now you need to go enjoy your family LIKE EVERY OTHER AMERICAN WOULD BE DOING AT 72! ENOUGH ALREADY!


11 posted on 12/02/2008 9:19:23 AM PST by prismsinc (AIP works for ME!!!!)
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To: TADSLOS

Have it on good authority that Steve Schmidt and other McCain national advisers are pleading with the “drag on the ticket” to campaign for him. They’ll even pay for the Diva’s wardrobe. -:)


12 posted on 12/02/2008 9:21:53 AM PST by Wegotsarah.com (My amateur blog--www.wegotsarah.com)
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To: Da Coyote

good post Da Coyote,
No money from me goes to the Republican party as long as they
push RINO vermin on us, McCain, Martinez, Hagel, etc.


13 posted on 12/02/2008 9:22:15 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: prismsinc

I wish they had a retirement limit on Senators - we need to oust alot of the old guys Byrd, Leahy, Rockefeller, McCain, etc. Kennedy will go out feet first but get replaced by another liberal...here in Arizona we have one good senator in Jon Kyl, but McCain is a RINO and I’m fed up with it.


14 posted on 12/02/2008 9:23:13 AM PST by princess leah
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To: TADSLOS
And in the general election, McCain beat Barack Obama by a 54-45 margin — a relatively small margin in McCain’s home state.

We managed to give McCain 58% here in Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, a county which didn't send a Republican to the state house since the district was created in 1969 until this year. Plus a county which Walter Mondale carried in the 1984 Reagan landslide.

I think he won big here for the same reason Oba Mao lost big: McCain had the good sense to send Sarah Palin to campaign and stay away himself. Oba Mao did not.

15 posted on 12/02/2008 9:23:30 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: TADSLOS

I hate to say this but we’d be better off with a democrat in that seat, and I am glad he is NOT president!


16 posted on 12/02/2008 9:24:25 AM PST by sickoflibs (McCain asks: "Did you stupid conservatives really believe me? HA-HA-HA, wait til 09")
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To: goldstategop

Don’t count on it. If McCain votes for amnesty again, and he surely will, he is dead meat in AZ. I have a second home there. I will make it my permanent residence prior to 2010 just so I can vote against the bastard.


17 posted on 12/02/2008 9:25:52 AM PST by kabar
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To: TADSLOS

The next time anybody in the Republican Party decides that it would be a super idea to nominate a sitting Senator for President, I hope someone will have the good sense to kick him in the privates and toss him down a flight of stairs.


18 posted on 12/02/2008 9:27:10 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (Liberty has few friends, many enemies, and no adequate substitute.)
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To: NonValueAdded
Senators cannot be recalled.

Both of Arizona's Senators, McCain and Kyl, have agreed to honor the results of any recall election and resign if it goes against them. It will not. He won with 82% of the vote last time and I would expect a rough equivalent this.

19 posted on 12/02/2008 9:29:02 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: TADSLOS
Now on the other hand, we have another American Icon, who has plenty to offer his nation but hasn't decided to act on it. MIKE DITKA. A staunch conservative, Ditka is in a position to inject some energy into the GOP. He might've have prevented this disaster (I say "might", but probably not at that moment in time). He could turn Chicago politics upside down if he wanted to.

Mike we need you! I watched your intro on youtube at Palin's speech in Penn. Please, get in the mix more. It's still not enough.
20 posted on 12/02/2008 9:31:30 AM PST by prismsinc (AIP works for ME!!!!)
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To: Wegotsarah.com

If she does, she’s toast- whether McCain wins or not.


21 posted on 12/02/2008 9:32:58 AM PST by TADSLOS (McCain Courted Socialism and Brought Us Marxism Instead)
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To: uglybiker

“Anybody still have recall petitions stashed away?”

I hope so. The only thing that saved his ass was 9/11.

His recall was going on successfully. But then 9/11 happened; and it was decided he was no longer important…like a piece of dog dropping; and it was called off.

I would like to see his recall start up again.


22 posted on 12/02/2008 9:33:10 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: TADSLOS

Goldwater Jr could run for the seat...he served a couple of terms in Congress.


23 posted on 12/02/2008 9:34:37 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: MARTIAL MONK
He won with 82% of the vote last time

Not so. McCain won with 77% of the vote in 2004 and that was well before his taking the starring role in boosting amnesty. There is no way he wins again with that kind of majority and he will face a strong challenge in the primary. McCain was the only top tier candidate of either party who did not win his home state by 50% or more in the presidential primaries.

24 posted on 12/02/2008 9:36:27 AM PST by kabar
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To: TADSLOS
John GET LOST!

You are irrelevant. Understand that and behave accordingly.

25 posted on 12/02/2008 9:36:34 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: pissant; rabscuttle; Liz; AuntB; cripplecreek; calcowgirl

ping.


26 posted on 12/02/2008 9:36:36 AM PST by TADSLOS (McCain Courted Socialism and Brought Us Marxism Instead)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

The recall was a joke. It was going nowhere. In the election after the recall was dropped, McCain won with 82% of the vote.


27 posted on 12/02/2008 9:37:38 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: ducdriver

Please don’t vote for a DEMONCRAT!

GEESH!

DO you want them to have TOTAL CONTROL?

As much as I am unimpressed with John, I wouldn’t vote for a baby killer and most Demoncrats are baby killers.


28 posted on 12/02/2008 9:37:55 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh
Amen.

Knee-jerking - no brain needed

29 posted on 12/02/2008 9:41:44 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: prismsinc

These guys get in the Senate, like the perks of that hothouse environment, and stay until they’re 98 or in some few cases, die in office. What the founders meant for a short term of public service, we get CAREER politicians who never fade away or die either it seems.


30 posted on 12/02/2008 9:43:09 AM PST by Twinkie (TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT!!!)
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To: nmh

Amen, ducdriver. The Demoncraps would love for John McCain to lose his own state. Despite McCain’s faults he’s still more conservative on many issues than your typical Democrat.


31 posted on 12/02/2008 9:43:38 AM PST by deannadurbin
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To: TADSLOS
I was just joking- I obviously have no such information.

Gov. Palin will have her hands full with her own political future in Alaska 2010--I imagine she'll attend to that.

32 posted on 12/02/2008 9:43:48 AM PST by Wegotsarah.com (My amateur blog--www.wegotsarah.com)
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To: kabar
You are right. Hagel won with 82%, McCain with 77%.

McCain's views on amnesty were well developed and well known in '04. He will not have a serious primary challenge and there are no Democrats who could come even close. Pederson backed out last time to challenge Kyl who is weaker, much weaker.

33 posted on 12/02/2008 9:45:43 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: TADSLOS
...........to issues affecting our border........

Might wanna stay away from that one.

34 posted on 12/02/2008 9:46:14 AM PST by capydick ("History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid".)
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To: capydick
Might wanna stay away from that one.

By 2010 it won't matter, thanks largely to McCain, and he'll probably get his ass handed to him in the general election thanks to a whole new batch of Arizona citizanos ready and willing to support a liberal democrat over a liberal republican- just like 2008.

35 posted on 12/02/2008 9:50:37 AM PST by TADSLOS (McCain Courted Socialism and Brought Us Marxism Instead)
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To: TADSLOS

So what are McCain’s chances and fundraising ability now that the Democrats who’ve backed him in the past no longer need him viable (they secured him a GOP presidential nomination which had been a long standing goal)?


36 posted on 12/02/2008 9:51:17 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: ducdriver

The Democrats will also oppose McCain this time around because they will want every seat they can get that keeps them closer to a 60 seat majority in the Senate.


37 posted on 12/02/2008 9:52:27 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: weegee

He can always dip into his wife’s beer money.


38 posted on 12/02/2008 9:52:27 AM PST by TADSLOS (McCain Courted Socialism and Brought Us Marxism Instead)
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To: MARTIAL MONK; kabar
McCain's views on amnesty were well developed and well known in '04.

They were no where near as well-known as they are now after the McCain-Kennedy fiasco.

There might actually be a race this time!
39 posted on 12/02/2008 9:53:39 AM PST by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: princess leah

Remember 40 years ago when the Baby Boomer motto was “Never trust anyone over 30”?

Why aren’t we hearing “never trust anyone over 70”?


40 posted on 12/02/2008 9:54:31 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Boy Barry is as close to a zero in Arizona as you can get. He is not a player.

Barry, himself, won the Presidential in Arizona by only 5000 or so votes. He won his last Senate term by about the same margin. He then graciously told the voters that they could "...go to Hell."

41 posted on 12/02/2008 9:55:05 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: MARTIAL MONK

Source please.


42 posted on 12/02/2008 9:55:19 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: TADSLOS

John McCain is a RINO loser, win or lose. Please go away John. Give us a break.


43 posted on 12/02/2008 10:07:27 AM PST by pallis
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To: SoConPubbie
There might actually be a race this time!

There is no one who can challenge McCain on the Republican or Democratic side and come close.

44 posted on 12/02/2008 10:08:35 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: TADSLOS

If the people of AZ are stupid enough to reelect McCain to the Senate, they deserve what they get.

He abrogated his responsibilities for 2+ years to run for the presidency. That indicated that he was more interested in furthering his own career than in serving in the elective position he held.

His voting record was so scant the last 2 years that his affiliations/positions could not even be charted. He missed more votes than he cast.

So, if AZ wants more of McCain, they deserve what they get. After all, SC wanted more of Graham and gave him another term in November.


45 posted on 12/02/2008 10:12:18 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy
So, if AZ wants more of McCain, they deserve what they get. After all, SC wanted more of Graham and gave him another term in November.

True. Birds of a feather and all that...

46 posted on 12/02/2008 10:14:43 AM PST by TADSLOS (McCain Courted Socialism and Brought Us Marxism Instead)
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To: TADSLOS

Another example of why term limits are a good thing.


47 posted on 12/02/2008 10:16:59 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: kabar

“he is dead meat in AZ”

Don’t count on it, for every votes he loses from conservatives like you, he will pick up 2 illegal votes from hispanics. Your state has been flooded with illegals.
Of course, they won’t be illegals by the time McCain and his gang of 14 gansters vote amnesty. I hate to say it, but it may be true.


48 posted on 12/02/2008 10:20:34 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
Source please.

Try this.

49 posted on 12/02/2008 10:26:17 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: ducdriver
"I never thought I'd ever vote for a Democrat..."

Same here, but this past election I voted for a Conservative Democrat (Bob Conley) in his bid to unseat the McCain mini-me - Lindsey Graham. It wasn't as hard as I thought it would be. It was actually more difficult to vote for McCain for President. I have friends that voted third party and I think they slept better even with an Obama victory. If nothing else, I learned a lesson from the '08 election.

50 posted on 12/02/2008 10:36:09 AM PST by VRWCtaz (I picked the wrong time to quit drinking.)
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