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1 posted on 12/02/2008 6:23:19 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Kinda like those chrome hood latch wires on a '60s muscle car.
They exist to impress @$$hole$.
2 posted on 12/02/2008 6:26:04 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Inspiration: The momentary cessation of stupidity.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The FBI just isn’t what it once was. Too many @$$ kissers.


3 posted on 12/02/2008 6:27:13 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (For more information on America's "new direction" read The Road to Serfdom. by Friedrich A. Hayek.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
If you want to catch drug dealers; you talk to drug dealers... you act like you can walk the walk.

If you want to get in the head of an Islamist.... a promminent muslim might be the place to start. You may catch more flies with honey, but you won't catch a muslim with pork blood.

But, there are some that want this guy to strap a cross to his back and scream I'm a Christian, I'm a Christian... yeah, that'll net you some info. Ever wonder why he's their "top agent?"

4 posted on 12/02/2008 6:28:17 PM PST by Operation_Shock_N_Awe (I'd rather be a conservative nut job than a liberal with no nuts and no job)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

These are the type of people GWB should have fired when he first came into office in 2001.

His administration could have and probably would have been a success (domestically speaking) considering the thousands of spiteful, anti-Bush leaks which were made by disgruntled liberals who were allowed to stay over from the Clinton (and even Carter) administrations.

It’s not just legacy here either. These anti-WOT types compromised our national security with a thousand paper cuts........ with help from the anti-GOP NYTimes, WaCompost, etc.


5 posted on 12/02/2008 6:29:20 PM PST by Edit35 (.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Dress, or no dress, the ghost of J. Edgar Hoover ought to kik this guy’s ass.


6 posted on 12/02/2008 6:30:04 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Another success-in-the-making from the guys who brought you the Ruby Ridge and Waco triumphs...


7 posted on 12/02/2008 6:30:06 PM PST by TonyStark
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Now, the imam and the FBI agent plan to travel around California and the nation, to show other communities how to build similar partnerships.


8 posted on 12/02/2008 6:30:23 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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... to wipe your feet on when come in from outside.

Wouldn’t want to get the floor dirty.


9 posted on 12/02/2008 6:31:02 PM PST by dhs12345
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Anybody ever once read any stories about agents keeping a Bible in their office to impress Christians?? Or a Southern Flag hanging on the wall to impress (please,, don’t get offended,, no harm intended) to impress rednecks??

How about an NRA sticker to impress gun owners??
I just cannot remember ever reading any stories like that.


17 posted on 12/02/2008 6:48:30 PM PST by freemike (Alas, how many have been persecuted for the wrong of having been right? --Jean-Baptiste Say)
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I don't think you're quite thinking this one through.

Domestic anti-terrorism efforts are highly dependent on information voluntarily provided by the American Islamic community.

If a potential terrorist is not directly affiliated with with a known radical group or with someone who is, they're likely to be completely below the radar of domestic surveillance, and the only way you're going to discover their existence is if someone - almost certainly someone in their community - notices something and is willing to tell someone else about it.

That potential informant may have very mixed feelings about what they're about to do - even if they would be perfectly willing to inform on someone they're reasonably certain is connected with a terrorist plot, they may be unwilling to blow the whistle on someone who might be involved in such activities, especially if they expect that person to be humiliated or abused during the investigation, or if they suspect that the investigation might be so ineptly handled that they will exposed as the source of the information which initiated it.

So there are two things I certainly would want the FBI to facilitate.

The first is a well-publicized conduit in the community to law enforcement; it's important that if someone in the community sees something they feel ought to be reported that they have a reasonably clear idea of who was in their own community can pass that information on to where needs to go. And the less well a potential informant is integrated into the wider US society (for example because they don't speak English, or because they socialize almost entirely of their own community) the more important it is to have someone within their community to serve as a conduit for such information. And that's almost certainly one of the things that picture is about: if someone wants such information passed along - even anonymously - they need to know exactly who to go to, or at least who to ask someone else to go to.

The second is for the people conducting the investigation to be very aware that most of the reports they receive will be discovered to involve either innocuous behavior or to be a lot more talk than action, and that unless investigations and interviews are conducted with an eye toward minimizing the distress of informants, suspects, and the many other people who may be interviewed an investigation can be counterproductive and shut off the flow of future information. And that's almost certainly one of the things that the relationship suggested by that picture is about: having sufficient feel for a community in which you are working to be able to minimize the extent to which its members are distressed in the course of conducting investigations.

Because if you don't have such sources, and you can't handle them well, you're essentially flying blind in your efforts to thwart domestic terrorism.

20 posted on 12/02/2008 7:26:25 PM PST by M. Dodge Thomas
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A Sacramento talk show host tried to get local Muslim support for a demonstration in support of the good old U.S. of A. He would pay all expenses and arrange for all the permits. This was about four or five years after 9/11/2001.

Zero interest.

He later partnered with the Lodi mayor and sponsored a similar demonstration in nearby Lodi. The total response was well under ten Muslims.

Lodi of course is where a few Muslims were arrested, tried, and convicted on charges for having traveled to and trained at camps in Pakistan. The father of one was convicted of lying.

The popular talk show host was fired by KFBK after years of getting 24/7 complaints from ILLEGAL aliens and supporters, CAIR, Sacramento Muslims, the SchwarzenKennedy (the host coined the name) administration, the local rag, and -- if I remember his comments correctly as he filled in on a station out of town -- gays who wanted him to support gay marriage some of whom may have been working at the station. His replacement IMO is a talentless numb nut liberal but the PCers are happy.

And now! maybe even the FBI wanted him off the air too!

21 posted on 12/02/2008 7:40:17 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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