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First Test Fire of an Airborne Laser
BBC ^ | 17:52 GMT, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 | staff

Posted on 12/04/2008 11:54:17 PM PST by gandalftb

The US military has carried out the first test-firing of a laser weapon system housed aboard a 747 plane.

The Airborne Laser (ABL) was conceived to shoot down enemy ballistic missiles in the early stages of their flight.

An airborne intercept of an in-flight ballistic missile is planned for 2009.

Scientists are reported to be working out other uses for the flying weapon - which could help secure continued funding. These extra missions include shooting down surface-to-air missiles, cruise missiles and even enemy aircraft.

A laser beam travelled the length of the aircraft at 670 million miles per hour.

It raced from the aft section, through the beam control and fire control system, and out through the nose-mounted turret.

After acquiring and locking on to the target, a second, high-power laser fires a three-to-five-second burst from the turret in the 747's nose.

Against solid-fuel ICBMs the useful range would be about 300km.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aerospace; boeing; laser; ronaldreagan; ronaldusmagnus; sdi; starwars; weapon
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Hmmm, useful range of 180 miles (300km). Airborne in a 747. "Extra" missions may include enemy aircraft......

This could be the game-changer.

The Air Force has no user requirements for laser weapons on bomber platforms, and the technology is “still several generations away” from even integrating it onto strike platforms such as gunships, a service acquisition official told "Inside the Air Force" last month.

Gonna come a day, enemy offensive missiles will be useless.

1 posted on 12/04/2008 11:54:17 PM PST by gandalftb
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To: gandalftb

“Gonna come a day, enemy offensive missiles will be useless.”
It will be easier to sleep then but don’t forget even the best gates don’t protect from the enemies within.


2 posted on 12/04/2008 11:57:19 PM PST by Eyes Unclouded (We won't ever free our guns but be sure we'll let them triggers go....)
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To: gandalftb

Or simply make the missiles highly reflective - just like the mirrors in the laser to begin with...


3 posted on 12/05/2008 12:01:01 AM PST by DB
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To: gandalftb

670 million miles per hour? Why not just say the speed of light?


4 posted on 12/05/2008 12:02:30 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: gandalftb

5 posted on 12/05/2008 12:02:58 AM PST by ari-freedom (Conservatives solve problems. Libertarians ignore problems. Liberals create problems.)
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To: Eyes Unclouded
Amen, when this is perfected, and it will, all enemies will be done with any and all airborne weapons platforms.

They will have to rely on low tech, infiltration attacks. But this puts the Iranians and Russians and their ilk out of the air threat business.

What ever cheap shots our enemies do, they'll do it walking.

6 posted on 12/05/2008 12:03:31 AM PST by gandalftb (An appeaser feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last......)
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To: gandalftb

yeah but Obama won :(


7 posted on 12/05/2008 12:05:15 AM PST by ari-freedom (Conservatives solve problems. Libertarians ignore problems. Liberals create problems.)
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To: ari-freedom

An airborne laser weapon, now that’s change we can believe in.


8 posted on 12/05/2008 12:07:40 AM PST by gandalftb (An appeaser feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last......)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think their point was that several megawatts of energy was being delivered at that speed.

No mirroring could protect the target as they would not know the precise direction to create a deflection and no mirror would be aerodynamic. Anything airborne would be defenseless.

9 posted on 12/05/2008 12:12:48 AM PST by gandalftb (An appeaser feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last......)
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To: Eyes Unclouded
It will be easier to sleep then but don’t forget even the best gates don’t protect from the enemies within.

Don't worry. Fearless Leader will cancel the program before it does any harm to our Asian Marxist comrades or those peace loving jihadi's.

10 posted on 12/05/2008 12:16:18 AM PST by Sparticus (Libs, they're so open minded that their brains leaked out.)
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To: gandalftb
Ground-based versions of laser weapons could neutralize advanced air forces. When these become cheap and plentiful, they could shift the balance of power away from today's major powers.
11 posted on 12/05/2008 12:25:10 AM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: gandalftb

So when are they going to test one mounted on a frikkin shark?

12 posted on 12/05/2008 12:28:51 AM PST by uglybiker (1f u c4n r34d th1s u r34lly n33d 2 g3t l41d)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
True, but ground based lasers will likely be only defensive, line of sight limited.

Airborne, that is where we'll dominate, offensive or defensive weapon platforms, aircraft, satellites, whatever. Delivering this kind of power by laser will be technology that others couldn't afford to duplicate, much less airborne.

13 posted on 12/05/2008 12:55:50 AM PST by gandalftb (An appeaser feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last......)
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Obama will kill this program. It is provocative and destabilizing.

Better, yet, he will give the technology to the Chicoms because the world should not have only one superpower.

I wish I was joking. Billy Bob did it first.


14 posted on 12/05/2008 1:04:30 AM PST by BigBobber
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To: gandalftb
No mirroring could protect the target as they would not know the precise direction to create a deflection and no mirror would be aerodynamic. Anything airborne would be defenseless.

I don't believe that anyone was proposing equipping the attacking missiles with (flat) mirrors which would bounce the beam directly back to the airplane from which the laser was shot.

I think that, instead, the proposal was simply to coat the outside of the missile with the same reflective substance as is used on the mirrors of the laser so that any incoming beam would be bounced away and thus rendered harmless.

A flat mirror would, of course, be aerodynamically problematic, but simply "dipping" the outside of the missile in silvery stuff would reduce its absorption of light and thus would reduce its vulnerability to laser beams.

You're welcome.

Regards,

15 posted on 12/05/2008 1:12:58 AM PST by alexander_busek
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
>>670 million miles per hour? Why not just say the speed of light?

Because Brits always like to sensationalize everything. Its in their genes for some reason and its wholly annoying. Do this little test - find a column written in the UK that DOESN'T use any strange metaphors, similes, or creative writing to express a common thought - it will be hard to find one.
16 posted on 12/05/2008 1:29:24 AM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/)
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To: alexander_busek

As it turns out, a mirrored surface is no protection against a high-energy laser. It has been demonstrated in lab tests that the energy transfer is enough to destroy a target.


17 posted on 12/05/2008 2:19:00 AM PST by jimtorr
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To: jimtorr
[...] a mirrored surface is no protection against a high-energy laser [...]

It was not my intent to make any "blanket statements." Notice that I said merely that a mirrored surface would reduce the missile's vulnerability - perhaps even enough to allow it to survive, e.g., a "near miss."

It has been demonstrated in lab tests that the energy transfer is enough to destroy a target.

As long as those lab tests included such real-world factors as the atmosphere's intrinsic opacity, possible interposing clouds, the gradual widening of the collimated beam, etc., I will accept that.

Regards,

18 posted on 12/05/2008 2:31:44 AM PST by alexander_busek
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To: buckrodgers

Ping


19 posted on 12/05/2008 3:15:54 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: gandalftb

“Hmmm, useful range of 180 miles (300km).”

Yes, and that’s against targets in the atmosphere. There should also be a significant anti-satellite capability with the 747 at altitude. Not much atmosphere above 60,000 or so feet.

They should work on a modified 747 that’d cruise at more like 80,000 feet.

“Gonna come a day, enemy offensive missiles will be useless.”

Perhaps. Lasers tend to overheat, and of course could be swamped by too many targets. No denying that battlefield lasers will be a game changer though.


20 posted on 12/05/2008 3:44:36 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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