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Why the stories about Obama's birth certificate will never die
Salon ^ | December 5, 2008 | Alex Koppelman

Posted on 12/05/2008 5:18:15 PM PST by Aliska

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To: aruanan
Remember that the reason given for asking that the Berg case be dismissed was that the requested documents contained information that would be embarrassing to both Obama and to the DNC.

Embarrassing as in illegal or immoral?

161 posted on 12/05/2008 9:13:58 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: GrouchoTex
The sec of state from Cal denies having any responsibility for qualifying the candidates.

In her e-mail to me she stated it's the responsibility of the partys to nominate qualified candidates.

162 posted on 12/05/2008 9:16:23 PM PST by nufsed
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To: curiosity
Read the article. WND says they had their own forensic experts look at it, and they verify it was authentic.

So now you're saying the rabid, anti-Obama WND is lying too?

I have a quote for you Mister Troll.

Post 140

There you go again citing WorldNutDaily.

When will you learn the difference between an online tabloid filled with nonsense and a credible source?

Can you guess whose post it is?

163 posted on 12/05/2008 9:16:32 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: hoosiermama
Embarrassing as in illegal or immoral?

About the only thing embarrassing to the DNC would have been something on the records indicating that Barry O had been rescued from an abortion.
164 posted on 12/05/2008 9:17:25 PM PST by aruanan
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To: hoosiermama; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; Fred Nerks

Did anyone ever see a 16 or 17 year old pregnant Stanley Ann?


165 posted on 12/05/2008 9:17:28 PM PST by LucyT
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To: TChad
Proving the COLB's legitimacy would not prove that Obama was born in Hawaii. The document is probably legitimate.

You must not have seen Dr. Ron Polarik's forensic report on both the JPEG bc image, and the photographed images of the (reportedly) same document. They have both been completely debunked.

Do a search on FR for the report, if you want. It's extensive.

The point I'm making is that Obama, et al have put photographs of what they claim to be his authentic COLB on the internet. This is a paper document which Obama has in his possession.

He could even release THAT document for independent verification, if he so chooses. If independent analysis verifies it to be genuine, he's that much closer to disintegrating the whole controversy. If he would do just THAT, and the findings came out in his favor, he'd take the wind out of 90% of this issue.

Then again, it might be discovered to be a forgery, just as Ron Polarik has proved it to be.

See what I'm driving at here?

I simply want to see his reaction to the challenge to allow verification of that COLB. I already know he'll refuse to let it be examined. If he is challenged in this way, and refuses, it will be one more damning indictment, and will further prove that he is indeed up to something criminal.

166 posted on 12/05/2008 9:23:25 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: GrouchoTex
All SOS have the parties fill out a standard form of who their candidate for office is....They do not check to see if each candidate is qualified to run for office....They assume that the party has done so.

That is why I think Berg's case against BO, DNC, FEC has more merit than the cases against the SOSs. The cost to each state to do the research and verification would be prohibitive....multiplied by 50 (57).

OTOH the parties have the funding and should be held criminally liable for proposing a candidate that in NOT qualified.

167 posted on 12/05/2008 9:28:57 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: Aliska
My point is if he truly does not know through no fault of his own and convinces me so, he shouldn't be blamed for it.

Big IF supporting your benefit of the doubt, there.

I've seen enough to know that he's not innocent of anything that comes out on this. He is up to his ever-lovin' neck in it.

168 posted on 12/05/2008 9:30:48 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

AND should be tried for treason?!?!?!?


169 posted on 12/05/2008 9:32:18 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: hoosiermama
Yeah, what IS the punishment for fraudulently trying to take over the US government?
170 posted on 12/05/2008 9:33:37 PM PST by nufsed
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To: hoosiermama; nufsed

Thanks for the info.

(liked the”57” reference)


171 posted on 12/05/2008 9:35:43 PM PST by GrouchoTex (...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free....)
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To: nufsed
uhhhh..... lynching?
172 posted on 12/05/2008 9:38:15 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: hoosiermama

now that will be very uncomfortable


173 posted on 12/05/2008 9:39:05 PM PST by nufsed
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To: nufsed
When was the last time someone was tried for treason? Trying to take over a government that one is not qualified for is a coup. Attempting a coup, albeit a bloodless one, I would think rises to the level of treason.
174 posted on 12/05/2008 9:44:26 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: TheCipher
The whole reason Hawaii doesn't release the COLB to those that equest it is to protect the privacy of the individual. However, by him posting his supposedly "authentic" copy online, he has waived that right. So therefore there should be no reason for Hawaii NOT to allow the release of the COLB ( the vault copy is another matter ) to anybody that requests it.

Section 18 (d) allows the director to do just that.

d) Index data consisting of name and sex of the registrant, type of vital event, and such other data as the director may authorize shall be made available to the public.

So the statute clearly gives authority to the director to release any information on the registrant as she seems fit without authorization from the registrant. Now index data is not a birth certificate. But that is basically what the COLB is.

Damn, Cipher! I wanted to pull out my scissors and cut your post right off the screen. What a great idea.

Still, you'd have to get the state of Hawaii to actually enforce their own rules, and you can bet your bottom dollar that Obama's attorneys would be there fighting it with everything under the sun.

Heck, I'd like to see both things done. A public challenge to Obama to release the COLB he has in his possession for independent analysis would result in a second, and parallel stonewall to the other. Simultaneously, a proper request made to the Hawaiian director of public records will either result in the release of this "index" document, or will likewise be stonewalled over existing Hawaiian statute.

I see it as a way to force the public to realize the scope and intensity of Obama's stonewalling, which will shine an even harsher spotlight on him.

Naturally, it would be even better if someone were successful at either attempt, but I don't hold out much hope for that. He's already proven that he will do everything, including spending over a million dollars, to stop the revelation of his birth certificate.

175 posted on 12/05/2008 9:47:31 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: hoosiermama
AND should be tried for treason?!?!?!?

You betcha, if the chips fall that way. Him, and the rest of his criminal enterprise. That would also include the DNC.

176 posted on 12/05/2008 9:55:00 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: LucyT

Did anyone ever see a 16 or 17 year old pregnant Stanley Ann?
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Not a one,,,

In the only pics I saw she was thin,,,not pregnant,,,

In those “airport” pics O’Bammy looked to be 2-3 years old.

We have no Proof at all of anything about him without the

Vault Copy of his BC !!!


177 posted on 12/05/2008 9:58:06 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Buddy B
Nothing, can't talk.

That's too bad. At least you can type.

178 posted on 12/05/2008 10:03:23 PM PST by Mojave (http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/obama_funny)
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To: LucyT
Did anyone ever see a 16 or 17 year old pregnant Stanley Ann?

NO. And there is only ONE person in Hawaii who claims to have known both obama snr and Stanley Ann, and that's Abercrombie, who follows the narrative of 'Dreams From My Father' almost word perfectly. He also visited obama snr in Kenya, remember?


179 posted on 12/05/2008 10:05:23 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Aliska
My point is if he truly does not know through no fault of his own and convinces me so, he shouldn't be blamed for it.

Nixon didn't have advance knowledge of the Watergate break in.

The cover up got him into trouble.

180 posted on 12/05/2008 10:05:28 PM PST by Mojave (http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/obama_funny)
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