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Between the Lines: Modern American fascism developing from outside the government
The Valley News ^ | 120608 | Ronald L. Caravan

Posted on 12/06/2008 12:37:57 PM PST by Fred

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To: Fred
I'm not sure why the author labels Communism Fascism, probably for the same reason we ended up labeling ethnocentrism 'racism', to associate bad things with the ultimate baddie of the 20th century, although as we all know he was a piker compared with Uncle Joe, Saint Mao, Ho and others. But everyone thinks that fascism is bad and Communism tried to be good, da comrade?

And then we bring up examples of leftist agitators (community organizers) interrupting Hitler's speeches and we still call it fascism. Were those leftists fascist then? I'm confused!

21 posted on 12/06/2008 1:53:48 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Everytime they open their mouth they shoot themselves in the foot.)
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To: stockpirate

This whole movement took hold among the middle class in the 60s when college students, attending on mom and dad’s dime, began to take over Admiistration buildings on campus. They were allowed to get away with it both by the parents and college administrators who’d abdicated their responsibiities. The “Greatest Generation” created those brats.

Those very 60s students are now grandparents of today’s college students, and we are still paying for it. What was radical and revolutionary then is assumed today.


22 posted on 12/06/2008 2:01:12 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

Alot of money came in from communists outside the US, Soviet Union, France, North Viet-Nam, China just to name a few.

McCarthey was correct, our government was and still is invested with communists, socialists, and marxists.


23 posted on 12/06/2008 2:07:18 PM PST by stockpirate (Democrat Syndrome, psychological disorder that makes victims loyal to their abusers)
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To: stockpirate
McCarthey was correct, our government was and still is invested with communists, socialists, and marxists.

Infested, too.

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24 posted on 12/06/2008 2:21:28 PM PST by rdb3 ([T]he cool regions of the head are easily trumped by the raging fires of the heart.)
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To: rdb3

Sorry for the typo, yes invested and infested.


25 posted on 12/06/2008 2:24:28 PM PST by stockpirate (Democrat Syndrome, psychological disorder that makes victims loyal to their abusers)
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To: firebrand

ping for later


26 posted on 12/06/2008 2:27:41 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Petronski

Adorno and Horkheimer did not pull their punches, although they withheld publication until the danger was past. Those intellectuals who try to reason, eggheads, are overrun.


27 posted on 12/06/2008 2:29:55 PM PST by RightWhale (We were so young two years ago and the DJIA was 12,000)
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To: Revolting cat!

Fascism is only a little to the right of communism, since it claims it allows private property. Note I said claims. You may hold the title, but the state dictates how it is used. And the state will take it when it deems it necessary or convenient.


28 posted on 12/06/2008 2:49:02 PM PST by Fred Hayek (Leftism is a mental disorder)
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To: stockpirate

Very true ... BUT had the institutions of the time stood up and stood together to preserve traditional American ideals, all the money in the world could not have prevailed against them. Instead, they caved at every level.

Liberals/progressives are relentless. For whatever reason, peop;e of a leftist persuasion seem to be more committed than those on the right. They never, ever give up on achieving their goals. Unlike conservatives, liberals will accept a partial victory, retreat, and come back for another partial victory until they have everything they want.

Although a ‘lesser’ issue, think about smoking on planes .. started with a smoking section, then no smoking on planes for flights under x miles, then no smoking on flights of any length and duration, then no smoking in the airport. Now there is no smoking in any building anywhere. Took 20-30 years, but they achieved their goal.

Had that effort been led by conservatives, if the end goal of banning all smoking in all venues not been achieved in one fell swoop, they’d have quit and gone home. And cursed the politicians who let them down.

It is that very strategy the liberals/progressives use so effectively that concerns them if it were ever taken up by conservatives, especially on the issue of abortion. When they fear momentum by conservatives, it’s a ‘slippery slope.’ Using that straategy, those seeking to overturn RvW would accept the ban on partial birth abortion as only step one. Then it would be parental consent. Then third trimester, etc., until abortion was banned altogether.

But, alas, with conservatives it’s always all or nothing. The PBA ban just wasn’t enough, and those who might move on to the next step haven’t received the persistence support and encouragement needed to achieve the end goal.


29 posted on 12/06/2008 3:00:40 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: PapaBear3625
"And this is why middle class Germans voted for Hitler. He was the only one around willing to fight the Lefties on their own terms." While your heart is in the "right" place, please do not perpetutate the myth that the Nazis were right-wing. They were anything but. They were National Socialists. Hitler fought the Bolsheviks, perhaps, but on their own turf, from the Left.
30 posted on 12/06/2008 3:28:37 PM PST by Eccl 10:2 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - Ps 122:6)
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To: fatima
Thanks Albion Wilde. I have to admit we did this to the pro-aborts and a friend of mine chained himself to the lectern. I wasn't there but it stopped the pro-abort from speaking in a Catholic College. At least until the cops came.

Good job, Fatima and friends!

I think we need to see a lot more complacent conservatives out on the streets over the next couple of years. Freedom isn't free, y'all.

31 posted on 12/06/2008 3:30:25 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("Praise and worship" is my alternate lifestyle.)
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To: Albion Wilde

When a girl from my Catholic university phoned for the annual donation, I told her I could not support the school that invited only leftist speakers to campus events. She did not argue with me, but I hope she understood what I was telling her.


32 posted on 12/06/2008 7:55:29 PM PST by maica (Barack Obama is a Weathermen Project.)
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To: maica

Fellow Fordham grad?


33 posted on 12/06/2008 7:55:56 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: Candor7

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34 posted on 12/06/2008 9:45:28 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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I think this is a very intersting article. Conciliation and being "nice" is not always a virtue. Courage is the test of all other virtues, and I think all conservatives need a lot of courage. The leftists are not going to stop until THEY ARE STOPPED.

35 posted on 12/06/2008 9:50:08 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: EDINVA

“The worst are full of passionate intensity
While the best have lost all conviction.”

WB Yeats

(maybe the lines are reversed...)


36 posted on 12/06/2008 10:01:46 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: little jeremiah; Braak
I think this is a very intersting article. Conciliation and being "nice" is not always a virtue. Courage is the test of all other virtues, and I think all conservatives need a lot of courage. The leftists are not going to stop until THEY ARE STOPPED.

It hurts me to think this way but it seems like this is becoming more obvious over time. The leftists want to push up in a corner and then line us up against the wall. When it comes to that, I know we will fight, even a day old baby chick or a 7 week old kitten would fight in that case. I don't want to think that way, but I've seen many libs who would want to eliminate us or toss us into camps. It is chilling to think about but when I heard things like that from the William Ayers of the world, I often wonder if it will have to come down to a fight. I'm about 90% sure it will end up that way.
37 posted on 12/06/2008 10:14:23 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
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To: rdb3

God bless you for mentioning “Nuttin’ But Strings”. I’d never had known of this music before, it grabbed my heart,squeezed it and never let go! Hope I can buy album.


38 posted on 12/06/2008 11:01:57 PM PST by pankot
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To: Fred Hayek

Fascism is but National Socialism, Communism is INTER-national Socialism.


39 posted on 12/06/2008 11:04:09 PM PST by pankot
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To: Nowhere Man

Pollyanna! I’m 100% certain it will end that way, bar natural disasters like H5N1 pandemic and/or major war that clears some of the deck, so to speak.

But I am not hopeless. I think that the leftist crap and all that goes with it will be very, very subdued - in a while, and at least for a good long while. But we conservatives need courage, badly.


40 posted on 12/06/2008 11:26:27 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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