Between the Lines: Modern American fascism developing from outside the government

The Valley News ^ | 120608 | Ronald L. Caravan

[freema]

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[maica]

Loyola in Baltimore. The Jesuits seem to be the worst for leftist ideology.

[maica]

We have abandoned two generations to the hands of public school and university ideologues, and now we wonder why we do not have ‘conservative’ voters. We should have be pushing back for decades, but we didn't. We are reaping...

Add the pervasive indoctrination that American school children receive to the instant gratification society that we have evolved into because of our affluence in the age of the computer chip; stir with all the focus on pop culture instead of history and values of decency; and we have a recipe for a country that may not be able to be turned back to the Right.

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[Albion Wilde]

When a girl from my Catholic university phoned for the annual donation, I told her I could not support the school that invited only leftist speakers to campus events.

Excellent!! You rock!

[HangnJudge]

You are close...

The Second Coming

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity...

William Butler Yeats

[little jeremiah]

Thanks some more! I need to sit and read some poetry for a while.

[little jeremiah]

I agree with you. There is the possibility, though - but IMO it can only happen with great difficulty and hardship.

[Nowhere Man]

Pollyanna! I’m 100% certain it will end that way, bar natural disasters like H5N1 pandemic and/or major war that clears some of the deck, so to speak.

But I am not hopeless. I think that the leftist crap and all that goes with it will be very, very subdued - in a while, and at least for a good long while. But we conservatives need courage, badly.

Well, my fears is a civil war will tear us apart at some point in the future unless the libs have a "come to Jesus/God" moment, using a figure of speech here. I do realize there always have been divisions there like for example during the FDR days, but both sides had a lot in common where they pulled together and we fought as one and stood as one. I've seen places like Democratic Underground and some others who are so mean, they would put all of us in jail if not worse. Already in a way, we are in a war now but it is more like a "cold war" right now. I pray it doesn't go hot but I'm afraid there will be a point where some hotshot on their side or ours will start something and light the fuse.

I'm not too worried about bird flu, generally if you are healthy and practice good hygiene you're 70 or 75 percent there in surviving and/or not catching it at all. Atomic war, well, a civil war here can cause that or vice versa.

One of my favorite sites is John Titor, a supposed time traveller from 2036 who came to 1975 and 2000 where he says we end up in a civil war. Well, the time travelling part I'm dubious on, I mean I need more proof, but more likely, the story is put out by some person or group who is trying to warn us that if we keep continuing on this path, we will end up with a future similar in the story. I get the impression that whomever is behind this is of a religious/conservative/libertarian bent, there are elements of all three. You can read it at http://www.johntitor.com although I cannot confirm or deny the story, but I just point out that it is a warning to us to where we could be headed.

It really hurts me to even think that way, but we can't ignore it if we seem to be headed that way. It is like watching the old movie where you see two locomotives crashing and wishing you can stop it and hoping you can.

[Nowhere Man]

We have abandoned two generations to the hands of public school and university ideologues, and now we wonder why we do not have ‘conservative’ voters. We should have be pushing back for decades, but we didn't. We are reaping...

Add the pervasive indoctrination that American school children receive to the instant gratification society that we have evolved into because of our affluence in the age of the computer chip; stir with all the focus on pop culture instead of history and values of decency; and we have a recipe for a country that may not be able to be turned back to the Right.

Well, way back when, somebody should have just said, "no" to all of this and backed it up. If we did, we'd be better off today.

[metmom]

NY ping

[metmom]

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[neverdem]

thanks, bfl

[coydog]

Don’t forget crossbows, easier to aim and just as silent. In a survival situation, game laws may be pretty much moot.

[little jeremiah]

I’m hoping that whatever the future holds that is not pretty (and there are many scenarios, some unfolding at present) will wake up enough people who are slumbering in the miasma of gross materialism, “me me me-ism”, just plain stupidism, leftism, and so on - to turn the country (and it’s not just our country, actually) around in the right direction.

And pandemic, even if the virus attenuates to a mere 10% CFR - case fatality rate - will disrupt stuff terribly - the illness itself, but supply chains, JIT delivery, emergency responders, hospitals and more will be all messed up. The WHO and CDC are being grossly negligient currently in releasing information about what is currently going on in SE Asia, especially Indonesia and (who the heck knows about) China.

But back to your point - the breakdown of common social and moral values is what is destroying and rotting everything from within. These must be brought back to life or we are doomed as a civilization.

[little jeremiah]

I wasn’t clear - when I said “it’s not just our country” I meant this spiritual sickness is spreading rampant all over the world. And Islamic jihad and culture is a by-product. It claims to be religious but is off the cliff into severe psychopathology that has nothing to do with God, and everything to do with hate and violence. But the problem is that western countries and even India, which has seen the evils perpetrated by Islam up close and personal since the early 700s, have no guts or courage to deal with it as they should.

[Carry_Okie]

In addition to that, I am buying a bow to hunt deer in the forest preserves if necessary.

The left has plans for that too: wolves.

[FreeKeys]

No, indeed, it is not. Those are fascist tactics, but that is not fascism.

Exactly. Fascism is a politico-economic doctrine, the defining earmarks of which include a pretense at recognizing private property rights, but in actuality seizing the rights of use and disposal of property by government operatives, leaving only the "responsibility" and "liability" of the property in the hands of the purported "owners."

Also see: A BRIEF COMPARISON OF SOME POLITICO-ECONOMIC SYSTEMS

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[CyberAnt]

“... the pushback from the right will not be pretty.”

Amen! Some of the repubs in congress are starting to get it .. but not enough of them yet.