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Republicans brought socialism to America
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 12/10/8 | Robert Scheer, Creators Syndicate Inc.

Posted on 12/10/2008 7:41:47 AM PST by SmithL

Let the record show that it was George W. Bush, the rich Texas Republican, who brought socialism to America, so don't blame it on that African American Chicago Democrat community organizer who made it into the White House. The government takeover of the banking and automobile industries not only happened on President Bush's watch, it was also the deregulatory mania of this president's family, beginning with his father, which took this country into such starkly unfamiliar territory.

What a betrayal of unfettered free market capitalism. And who would have thought that it would be the candidates backed by conservative pundits Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh who made it possible? You actually could trace the destruction of corporate capitalism to the much-ballyhooed "Reagan Revolution" of the movie actor who got his main training for the presidency as a huckster for General Electric, where he honed the message of "getting government off our backs." The revolution of unfettered corporate capitalism led to an era of unfettered corporate greed, which sowed the seeds of its own destruction.

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1 posted on 12/10/2008 7:41:47 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

And the author of this was cheering all along the way. Scheer is a useful idiot for the leninists who want to create the USSA.


2 posted on 12/10/2008 7:42:45 AM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: SmithL

Woodrow Wilson brought socialism to America.


3 posted on 12/10/2008 7:43:47 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: SmithL

So this moron says deregulation cause socialism? Can I get some of what he’s smoking?


4 posted on 12/10/2008 7:46:11 AM PST by thecabal (We care a lot)
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To: SmithL
Umm... Hate to break it to you this way, bub. Socialism has been growing in the USA for a very long time.

Yes, this latest circus is giving the S-word a big growth spurt, but it couldn't have happened without Americans being first softened up to the idea over the years.

5 posted on 12/10/2008 7:47:05 AM PST by TChris (So many useful idiots...)
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To: SmithL

related....

“...Red From The Start...”

http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2008/02/01/republican-party-red-from-the-start-by-alan-stang/


6 posted on 12/10/2008 7:47:57 AM PST by gunnyg
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To: SmithL

I have to admit that there’s some truth to what he says here.


7 posted on 12/10/2008 7:48:27 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: SmithL
Scheer madness. George Bush caused cosmic rays, mad cow disease, Islamic terrorism and paper cuts.

But don't you dare blame the coming socialism on that socialist community organizer who is about to occupy the former White House.

8 posted on 12/10/2008 7:48:59 AM PST by Sender (Never lose your ignorance; you can never regain it!)
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To: RKV

[And the author of this was cheering all along the way. Scheer is a useful idiot for the leninists who want to create the USSA.]

All true. But the lesson to be painfully learned is that No RINOs allowed. I don’t care what the argument is that we need to keep them in the party so we can get the majority, all they do is to 1) dilute the message and 2) backstab us in the back at crucial points.

Bush, McCain, Hagel, Specter, Chafee, Graham, Powell - it is no longer a question of if they will backstab but when. It isn’t pleasant being kidney stabbed with a rusty screwdriver and having it twisted over and over again.


9 posted on 12/10/2008 7:49:59 AM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: SmithL
Let the record show that it was George W. Bush, the rich Texas Republican, who brought socialism to America

To SanFran Pole Smoker,
Let the record show that socialism in America got it's start with Woodrow Wilson (D) (Income Tax, Direct Election of Senators, World War I) and FDR (may he burn in hell, too many issues to list)

Republicans are not socialists and the democrats are for all intents and purposes the new Communists in America.

10 posted on 12/10/2008 7:51:49 AM PST by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: SmithL

robert scheer, formerly of the l.a. times,

wanted the leader of no korea, kim jong 1’s

writings translated into english

because scheer thought these to be instructive for americans.


11 posted on 12/10/2008 7:52:53 AM PST by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: P8riot

Woodrow Wilson brought socialism to America..........

indeed.....and socialism was spread by FDR and LBJ even more.........


12 posted on 12/10/2008 7:53:11 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: SmithL
It looked like the housing system worked well, that is until the crooks found that they could steal millions and stick the government with the bill. It appears that the Democrats loosened the rules so the folks could purchase a new home, even though they could never afford to pay for it. Congress was told this would never work, but they ignored the warning. Am I wrong?
13 posted on 12/10/2008 7:53:26 AM PST by ANGGAPO (Leyte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: B-Chan

Why would Bush and the GOP want to give cover for this socialist bill. Why would they want joint ownership?


14 posted on 12/10/2008 7:54:56 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: SmithL

Why do people think that letting millions of workers be suddenly laid off is a good thing? We are a compassionate people and will never allow things like letting people die in the waiting room because they don’t have insurance.

Everybody knows capitalism is the only system that works. Let’s just get through this recession without miles of soup lines for unemployed people.


15 posted on 12/10/2008 7:54:58 AM PST by sazerac
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To: B-Chan
I have to admit that there’s some truth to what he says here

Maybe recently, but for the most part, R's allowed it to happen....one small step at a time

16 posted on 12/10/2008 7:55:11 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Sho me da BC...mo)
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To: SmithL

Let’s see, Democrats inside these companies brought them down. Democrats in Congress blocked any attempts at reform and investigation for YEARS.

And there is evidence that Secretary Paulson may be a Democrat.

Looting the treasury is a sure way to bring down this nation and elections turn on the economy.

This is like saying that it was Republicans in the 1920s who ushered in Socialism in the 1930s.

And yes Bush is wrong to sign any of this.


17 posted on 12/10/2008 7:55:23 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: Sender

We aren’t even allowed to call Obama a Socialist. That is a divisive word.


18 posted on 12/10/2008 7:56:15 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: SmithL
LOL. What was FDR then?

BTW it's funny that the SanFranCronicle acts like they dislike socialism.

19 posted on 12/10/2008 7:57:01 AM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light! WE STAND WITH HER!)
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To: SmithL

I don’t think Bush actively sought it (until recently) but as LVR said, he mostly just allowed it to happen.


20 posted on 12/10/2008 7:57:05 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: SmithL

“Robert Scheer, Creators Syndicate Inc. “

What are you, like, 16 or something? Learn some freakin’ history before you let your Mommy write your (so-called) article.


21 posted on 12/10/2008 7:59:32 AM PST by papasmurf (Impeach the illegal bastard!)
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To: SmithL
The author of that article is up obama's butt so far he's forgotten what sunshine looks like.

No one said obama "brought" socialism to America...but you ain't seen nothing yet; just wait until he gets in office.

Insofar as all of these latest event being on "Bush's watch", I think he'd better back that timeline up only as far as the beginning of the Pelosi congress.

All of the press/dems (what's the difference) have received their "blame it on Bush" hymnbooks and are all singing off the same page.

Blaming Bush is their version of "carbon credits" (we'll call them obama credits)...a convenient way to blame Bush for whatever obama may screw up for the rest of his life. Obama has been inoculated against any failure with the Bush vaccine.

Maybe GW can put in a bid with the Governor of Illinois for Obama's old senate seat.
22 posted on 12/10/2008 7:59:37 AM PST by FrankR (“Turtle up”, economically, for the duration of the 0bamanation.)
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To: P8riot
Woodrow Wilson brought socialism to America.

I say it was Lincoln. From Illinois, go figure.

23 posted on 12/10/2008 8:01:20 AM PST by southlake_hoosier (.... One Nation, Under God.......)
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To: SmithL
Another one trying to re-write history. Bush sent Regulators in to put limitations on marginal loans, but Maxine Waters, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Ron Meaks, and others pretty much called the Regulators racist and they all told the American people that there was no problem with Freddie Mack and Fannie Mae. This is where the problem comes from. Let us not forget that it is the demoratically controlled congress who is getting these bailouts through.
24 posted on 12/10/2008 8:02:05 AM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: SmithL

He is insane.


25 posted on 12/10/2008 8:03:23 AM PST by svcw (Great selection of Christmas gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: SmithL

Wow, what a delusional idiot. This meltdown is the result of bad loans made possible by bad polititians, i.e. democrats. They are responsible for the un-needed institutions Fannie and Freddie, and also responsible for blocking any and every attempt to reign them in. To add to that, some of the biggest players on Wall street with their hands in this mess are democrats as well, and likewise big democrat donors. This whole melt-down can be traced right back to their doorstep, and that’s the last thing they, meaning the democrats and their media lackeys, want the average American to find out. Leftist schills like this bottom-feeder would love for people to believe that this mess was caused by Republicans and that’s why they are trying to chant it over and over hoping that people eventually believe it. We can’t let them. We need to remind people that when life sucks and taxes are too high they have these slimy socialist commie troglodytes to thank for it.


26 posted on 12/10/2008 8:04:42 AM PST by domeika
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To: Sender

GWB could have corrected injustice where he saw it, but instead he turned a blind eye to the excessive sentence and suffering of the former border patrol agents. The American courts also proved useless in correcting injustice.


27 posted on 12/10/2008 8:05:16 AM PST by Theodore R. (The most frightening words in the English language: The American people!)
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To: SmithL
...so don't blame it on that African American Chicago Democrat community organizer who made it into the White House.

I guess we'd better get ready for these kinds of comparisons. A "community organizer" when things are dicey (e.g., "...we can't expect a former community organizer to solve a problem of this magnitude overnight..."), a "messiah" when things are going well.

28 posted on 12/10/2008 8:06:18 AM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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To: domeika

Still though John McPain said that, if elected, he would pay off or re-amortize all the “bad” loans endorsed by the Democrats.


29 posted on 12/10/2008 8:06:37 AM PST by Theodore R. (The most frightening words in the English language: The American people!)
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To: SmithL

It’s a wonder the author found time away from Folsom Street and the public park to even pen this rant.


30 posted on 12/10/2008 8:07:15 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: SmithL

I have no idea how old this guy is, but he’s a perfect example of the kind of informed and educated American produced in the last 35 years. . . . NOT!


31 posted on 12/10/2008 8:07:38 AM PST by MSSC6644 (Defeat Satan. Pray the Rosary)
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To: SmithL

The author chastizes Reagan as a “huckster for GE”, which is not ultraliberal. The big shortcoming of Mr. Reagan, it seems to me, was his failure to do his homework on judicial nominations.


32 posted on 12/10/2008 8:07:53 AM PST by Theodore R. (The most frightening words in the English language: The American people!)
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To: southlake_hoosier
Well he certainly did preside over the largest constitutional crisis this country has seen...so far. The argument can also be made that the states rights provisions in the constitution were emasculated during his term in office.
33 posted on 12/10/2008 8:08:26 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: SmithL

What I meant to type is that GE is now a liberal corporation, not the conservative place it was in the 1950s. Same with Disney and so many other companies too.


34 posted on 12/10/2008 8:08:53 AM PST by Theodore R. (The most frightening words in the English language: The American people!)
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To: TexasCajun

“It’s a wonder the author found time away from Folsom Street and the public park to even pen this rant.”

He probably did it on his Apple Ipod or Blackberry while in hot tub filled with other guys who hate America.


35 posted on 12/10/2008 8:10:46 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Does Zer0 have any friends, who are not foriegn or domestic terrorists or criminals?)
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To: SmithL
Hey, it was only until Ronald Reagan became President when social ills were brought to the surface and blamed on Reagan.

When DemocRATs run the White House, all of America's social ills are swept under the rug and reserved for blame if/when the GOP take control.

36 posted on 12/10/2008 8:13:15 AM PST by lormand
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To: SmithL

Well at least someone is willing to place a big part of the blame where it belongs, squarely at BushOsocialist feet.

Of course some of the article is wrong, but Bush is a socialist.

Compassionate conservatism = Republican Socialism.


37 posted on 12/10/2008 8:13:15 AM PST by stockpirate (Left ignores Constitution except 16th amendment, can we ignore the 16th amendment?)
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To: SmithL

George Bush didn’t bring socialism to America.

He just gave it a quantum leap forward and took the ideology out of the cellar and put it on Main Street USA.

Socialists no longer have to hide their beliefs or worry about being ridiculed by republicans.


38 posted on 12/10/2008 8:19:05 AM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself)
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To: Theodore R.
Still though John McPain said that, if elected, he would pay off or re-amortize all the “bad” loans endorsed by the Democrats.

And he lost.....I voted McCain, for lack of a better choice. I don't think any of these bailouts are warranted, and by getting involved at all, it's screwing things up. In regards to mortgages...If someone makes a bad decision and gets a loan they cannot afford, that's their fault, and when they can't pay, the bank forecloses. Then someone else comes along and buys the same property. Maybe they make it, maybe they don't.....personal responsibility. As to auto-manufacturers, if they can't manage their business, they go under. Maybe someone buys it to run it, or maybe someone buys it to have a fire sale. Either way, the economy keeps going. Bad for those going out, but good for those seeking opportunity.
A world without losers has no winners either.
39 posted on 12/10/2008 8:21:55 AM PST by domeika
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To: Centurion2000

Let us conservatives beware of any “Republican RINO” candidate from now on who constantly crows about being a “uniter” of the parties and “reaching across the aisle” to the Democrat socialists (who NEVER reach back - period).

Giving Bush his due, but he was fair from the start that he was a RINO, a “uniter” reaching “across the aisle”. RINOs only end up not being economically conservative or really much conservative in much of any way - except maybe militarily.


40 posted on 12/10/2008 8:27:00 AM PST by Twinkie (TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT!!!)
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To: Right Wing Assault
GW and his dad have always been “globalists”. Which is a type of socialist.

Unfettered immigration while shipping large portions of our economy to other countries are characteristics of globalism. Clintons started it, Bushs finished it.

Both had the idea that America could cool the entire world by turning the A/C on full blast and leaving all the windows open. A noble if naive thought.

And now as GW packs up and heads back to Texas with a shoulder shrug and a giggling "sorry 'bout that", we have to pay the utilities bill.

41 posted on 12/10/2008 8:32:38 AM PST by 240B
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To: Twinkie
Let us conservatives beware of any “Republican RINO” candidate from now....

I agree. The pubs seem to think that we, the people, want to see them as uniters. That's all well and good, but when uniting with vicious leftists I believe it's called appeasement. I don't want to get along with these whackos, I want to beat them. I want to see them pushed back into obscurity where they belong, tin-foil hats in hand, and I want to see our "leaders" show some spine and fight.
42 posted on 12/10/2008 8:41:48 AM PST by domeika
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To: SmithL

Geez it’s not like Congress has been controlled by the Dems during this whole time? *sarcasm*


43 posted on 12/10/2008 8:49:01 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: SmithL

This is an expert opinion coming from a communist.


44 posted on 12/10/2008 8:57:02 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (It's no longer the Press Van, it's a "Tanker" Truck!)
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To: FastCoyote

all they do is to 1) dilute the message

they certainly do. If Mccain won, conservatives would have to defend his %^$# economic policies for 4 years just like they did with Bush.


45 posted on 12/10/2008 9:15:06 AM PST by ari-freedom (Conservatives solve problems. Libertarians ignore problems. Liberals create problems.)
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To: SmithL

Scheer *is* a socialist, so what’s he complaining about???


46 posted on 12/10/2008 9:15:25 AM PST by WOSG (Obama - a born in the USA socialist)
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To: southlake_hoosier

No, Woodrow Wilson is much more correct. Wilson + Federal Reserve + income tax + first regulations (WWI) on prices etc.

Wilson gave us a dry run of the New Deal, which begat Big Govt.


47 posted on 12/10/2008 9:16:48 AM PST by WOSG (Obama - a born in the USA socialist)
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To: Centurion2000
Let the record show that socialism in America got it's start with Woodrow Wilson (D) (Income Tax, Direct Election of Senators, World War I) and FDR (may he burn in hell, too many issues to list)

Republicans are not socialists and the democrats are for all intents and purposes the new Communists in America.

All true. However, in the modern era, Lyndon Johnson put socialism into warp drive before he decided on not running for a second term. To me, it's always seemed as if Kennedy was assasinated precisely so Johnson could create the "Great Society." Hmm.

48 posted on 12/10/2008 9:21:33 AM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: lormand

well, that’s part of the deal as conservatives. We’re going to say no to a lot of things that people want. In return we’ll actually solve problems.
But if we just say no but we really don’t know what we’re doing and the economy stinks as a result then what’s the point. Given a choice between 2 idiots, people will go for the liberal because he says yes to everything.


49 posted on 12/10/2008 9:48:17 AM PST by ari-freedom (Conservatives solve problems. Libertarians ignore problems. Liberals create problems.)
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To: weegee

I was thinking of another word, but JimRob might zot me for about an hour or so, just for fun...


50 posted on 12/10/2008 9:49:46 AM PST by stevie_d_64
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