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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Conservatives have no one to blame but ourselves. Too lazy to campaign and work for conservatives and really get a ground level movement running. Thus, all the anger is at “Daddy”. Its time to compete with the energy of the left which mounted an effective grassroots campaign and got Obama into the white house.

We can whine about how this all turned out, but the conservatives have become fat, lazy and now are shocked. Look to congress , the president can’t do much when conservatives have betrayed him time and again..

Really. So we are all at fault for Bush's massive spending bills. For his kissing Ted Kennedy's fat ass on the education bill; for his stupidity of thinking he could "reach across the isle" when the left has absolutely NO want or reason to do so and WE as you call us, all know that. YOU may have failed. YOU may have sat on your fat ass and DID NOTHING, but a lot of us not only used our voices here, but did it also with emails, calls and personal visits to our congress reps. MAYBE YOU sat on your ass and failed Bush, but BUSH FAILED US. Take out the war effort. He failed badly. He FAILED to close the borders. He SPENT like a drunk needing another beer. He FAILED all these things, and YOU may have failed him by not kissing up, but I DID NOT. Don't blame me, or anyone else FOR YOUR FAILURES. Don't drag me into YOUR failures. HE FAILED conservatives time and time and time and time and time again. I did not fail him. I VOTED for him twice. I HAD HOPE that he was going to clean up our country after eight years of the Klinton Gestapo. I thought he would be a leader on all fronts. He was not. What I DID DO, was lose confidence in him to lead. While he did well on the war effort, he failed badly on other efforts.

47 posted on 12/14/2008 6:49:31 AM PST by RetiredArmy (My home is protected by the 2d Amendment!! Locked and loaded.)
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To: RetiredArmy
The president campaigned on the education bill. If you didn't want one, you should have voted for Gore or one of the third party losers. President Bush has been an excellent president, but then, I don't have the delusional idea that everything I want will be granted by any president. If you wonder why conservatives are wandering around in the wilderness, perhaps you should take a look at your attitude. If conservatives had stuck with him during Katrina and Harriet Meiers and Dubai Ports, perhaps he would have had the political clout to accomplish more on paring spending. Of course, working with a recalcitrant Congress probably would not have made that possible...and in case you don't know this, let me explain to you that the President proposes budgets, but it is the HOUSE which actually does the spending. I didn't notice many of them trying to pare those budgets down. Frankly, I know I am wasting time talking to you and your confederates, but I write this response mainly for those who will read this thread. President Bush will eventually be hailed as the great president he has been, and I thnk God we have had him for these last 8 years.
54 posted on 12/14/2008 7:03:24 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: RetiredArmy

I agree with much of what you said, but I have to ask: did you vote for the incumbent rep and Senator in your district/state over the last 8 years? Are you against term limits? If you answered either question yes, then you are a bit more to blame then you seem to want to accept.


63 posted on 12/14/2008 7:18:44 AM PST by 1L
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To: RetiredArmy

I read your post and took all you said into consideration.
thanks for responding with clear arguments.

I am more upset with congressional conservatives than I am with Bush. I believe you did what you could, and I hope we can all move forward with effort to strengthen the conservative movement through congressional changes.
thanks again for your response.


66 posted on 12/14/2008 7:24:02 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Obozo.....friend of dictators and wannabee revoluuuushionaries !)
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