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To: Swiss

How much you got saved? Because hard times are here...hope it’s enough. Could you pay your mortgage for long if you were laid off? Most Americans no matter where they work can not.

However, I still maintain my position. Your post proves my basic point. This is all political. You and others are pissed because the union gives money to Dems period...you would run the economy into the ground for political reasons. The ‘to hell with the country and especially the Mid West, lets kill the unions’ cry rising from the GOP/conservative movement and echoed by those nitwit Southern senators is going to kill the GOP in the end. None of you can look at an electoral map and see the truth...you can’t win the presidency without the Mid West.

This rosy little dream scenario I hear over and over...we must educate and be true to our principles blah blah will not work with a region that hates your guts because you caused millions to lose their jobs, homes and life savings. You better pray that Bush bails out the GOP with a loan to the big three because - kill the American car-kill the GOP- or at least send it to the wilderness for many years.


59 posted on 12/17/2008 7:21:58 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: bronxboy

Sorry Charlie but most of your union members wouldn’t vote for the GOP if we held a gun to their head. We have pretty much lost Michigan and Illinois in the Midwest no matter what we do. Indiana employs more workers in plants owned by Subaru and Toyota than GM and Ford and has been a dependable Republican state so has is those evil southern states with the foreign auto plants as well. Ohio is going to go Democrat no matter if we bail you out or not the way the trends has been going.

We would be better off seeing strong union and Democrat states like Michigan and Illinois lose population and electoral votes than to waste billions trying to save them. Population trends and political power is going to the southern states anyway so that is where the Republican party future is at. For example in 1900 the 4th largest city in the United States was St Louis, Missouri. Today it is Houston, Texas. By your reasoning we would of spent billions of taxpayers money trying to keep St Louis the fourth largest city since 1900. In 1900 the horse and mule industry as a whole was about the same percent of the economy if not larger than the auto industry is now. If they only had a bailout then perhaps we would have the same buggy whip manufacturing jobs as we had then.

The economy isn’t going to be run into the ground any more than when the domestic electronics industry went overseas or when the railroads went bankrupt or for that matter the canals in the 19th century.

I really resent that someone like me making a little more than minimum wage at a retail store has to subsidize your workers mortgages. Trust me I have overpaid your workers for years. We have never owned a foreign car but boy have we owned some clunkers your overpaid workers put together. It is damn hard to feel sorry for UAW workers making $60 an hour when you have to borrow from friends and family to get your only car out of the shop because your lazy workers didn’t put it together right.

People like me has been the bedrock of your customer base. Most of the liberals your union supports has gone over to foreign cars years ago but it has been conservatives who buy American out of tradition or patriotism who have supported you.

Now you demand our taxes to support you without making much concessions. How much are you making dude? I wouldn’t be surprised if after your pay cut you are still making a six figure salary.

If GM was so in danger then why did the UAW strike against the company in 2007? Seems to me that the UAW didn’t care about the company survival then so why the hell should I care about it now.

I am tired of arrogance, I am tired of everybody wanting to get into my pockets but nobody is looking out for me. I don’t care if those states never vote for the Republicans again. I am getting to the point where I don’t care if the Republicans will win again. The way I see it is that it is getting to the point where everyone needs to save themselves rather than worrying about others saving them.

You threaten that if you don’t get your bailout you will never go visit a southern state again, fine. But if they do get their bailout I can bet you will not have the money to go visit anywhere for long because myself and others will never buy a Big Three UAW product again. If Michigan and Ohio want to vote Democrat until the end of time I don’t give a rat’s ass about their stupidity. I don’t care if Michigan becomes as poor as Haiti if their voters is stupid.


61 posted on 12/17/2008 9:06:17 AM PST by Swiss
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