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Bullet Serialization Threat in Georgia
Email From National Shooting Sports Foundation ^ | 11/15/08 | unknown

Posted on 12/15/2008 9:47:06 AM PST by epow

Legislation (SB 12) that would mandate, as early as 2010, bullet serialization -- the process by which each individual round of ammunition is identified and marked with a laser-engraved serial number -- was introduced, December 11th, by Senator Ronald Ramsey, Sr. in the Georgia State Senate. The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), the trade association of the firearms and ammunition industry, has made clear that serializing ammunition on a mass production basis is not feasible from a practical standpoint and any legislation mandating such action could rightfully be considered a de facto ban on ammunition.

NSSF is encouraging all sportsmen, hunters and firearms enthusiasts to contact their state Senator and call the bill's sponsor, urging them to strongly oppose this would-be ammunition ban.

The domestic small arms ammunition industry produces between 10 and 12 billion ammunition cartridges a year at already low-profit margins. The three largest domestic manufacturers (who collectively account for the vast majority of the market) produce an estimated 20 million rounds of ammunition in a single day. Ammunition manufacturers could not serialize their product without hundreds of millions of dollars in capital investment to build the new factories that would be needed in order to meet the requirements of bullet serialization. The slowdown in the production process would result in what currently takes one day to produce into a nearly four-week effort.

Bullet Serialization is dangerous and not practical. This legislation which would mandate bullet serialization not only threatens law-abiding gun-owners but manufacturers' ability to supply the nation's law enforcement officers and military with high-quality ammunition.

Please call your state senator today and let them know that legislation mandating bullet serialization and also the destruction of previously owned non-coded ammunition will not improve public safety but rather put law-abiding citizens at risk.

Learn more about serialization at http://nssf.org/media/FactSheets/Microstamping.cfm


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; ammocoding; ammunition; banglist; call; microstamping; senator; toddlizotte
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This notice didn't come from the NSSF website. I received it by email but the listed url is for the NSSF website.

I would never have expected to have to fight this kind of nonsensical anti-gun bill here GA, but here it is on our doorstep folks. Time to let you GA state Senator and your district assemblyman know that we won't put up with this crap here in GA. Advise them that if they want to keep their seat in the State Assembly they had better be sure that this proposed outrageous and totally unworkable bill never even reaches the Assembly floor.

1 posted on 12/15/2008 9:47:08 AM PST by epow
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To: epow
We need abortion serialization too.

For the children.

2 posted on 12/15/2008 9:48:43 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors are the opium of the people.)
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To: epow

ping


3 posted on 12/15/2008 9:51:19 AM PST by unkus
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To: epow

Can someone more knowledgeable about gun law explain why this is a problem? Is it too expensive, or so infeasible as to ban many weapons? I’m a firm believer in the 2nd amendment. I’m also a firm believer in giving law enforcement the tools it needs to fight crime.


4 posted on 12/15/2008 9:52:16 AM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: epow

Can someone more knowledgeable about gun law explain why this is a problem? Is it too expensive, or so infeasible as to ban many weapons? I’m a firm believer in the 2nd amendment. I’m also a firm believer in giving law enforcement the tools it needs to fight crime.


5 posted on 12/15/2008 9:52:24 AM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This must be today’s extreme stretch.


6 posted on 12/15/2008 9:55:01 AM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: domenad
Is it too expensive, or so infeasible as to ban many weapons?

In a word, "yea".

7 posted on 12/15/2008 9:56:03 AM PST by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: epow

Buy your own reloading equipment and buttloads of primers WHILE YOU CAN. If this kind of BS passes the first thing that will be illegal will be reloaders.


8 posted on 12/15/2008 9:56:47 AM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember the 26th of November.)
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To: epow

Well, with this nonsense going on in conservative states, the only advice I have is to buy, buy, buy.

Use your tax refund, cash, bonus check /sarc, etc. to purchase ammo.

www.ammunitiontogo.com

Don’t worry. Ammo will always be worth more than you paid for it.

Ammunition: The New U.S. Currency
[especially in the event of anarchy]


9 posted on 12/15/2008 9:57:09 AM PST by LeoOshkosh (Crazy Leo is right again)
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To: epow
“I would never have expected to have to fight this kind of nonsensical anti-gun bill here GA”

Too many liberal Yankee urban ex patriots are moving into the south and other traditional American areas, taking their big city mentalities with them.

Trust me - I know. I grew up in New Jersey and watched the invasion of Sullivan Law idiots from New York City and anti-gun people from Philadelphia pour into New Jersey overwhelming this state with the their urban, liberal crooked big-city politics.

My guess us that a lot of this stuff originates in the Atlanta area which is, in effect, an island of northern liberalism in traditionally conservative Georgia.

Another big cause for this is liberal black urban politicians who are successfully shifting the blame for neighborhood blight, gang warfare and drugs from its prime cause - fathers without families and children without parents begetting more children - to one of the symptoms but not a cause - gun violence.

These twin issues are a serious threat to the constitutional liberty of all Americans.

10 posted on 12/15/2008 9:58:09 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: domenad
Can someone more knowledgeable about gun law explain why this is a problem? Is it too expensive, or so infeasible as to ban many weapons? I’m a firm believer in the 2nd amendment. I’m also a firm believer in giving law enforcement the tools it needs to fight crime.

Easy. The point is to make ammo prohibitively expensive and it's also a step to registering ammo like they do in Europe. Since they can't ban guns they'll try to ban ammo.

12 posted on 12/15/2008 9:59:28 AM PST by MahatmaGandu
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To: epow
Here's the pinko responsible for it (Dimocrat, natch):


13 posted on 12/15/2008 9:59:43 AM PST by Viking2002 (Let's be proactive and start the impeachment NOW.)
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To: MahatmaGandu

tag check.


14 posted on 12/15/2008 10:00:20 AM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember, the twenty-sixth of November.)
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To: domenad
Registration of any kind is the means by which the government will take away whatever you have,if and when gov’t decides.

Do you feel comfortable with the gov't having a complete real time inventory of all your possessions,communications,and whereabouts?

Please don't tell me "if you are doing nothing wrong,it won't matter";you do realize there are so many laws and regulations that it is already humanly impossible to be in complete compliance?

15 posted on 12/15/2008 10:04:16 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: domenad
Can someone more knowledgeable about gun law explain why this is a problem? Is it too expensive, or so infeasible as to ban many weapons? I’m a firm believer in the 2nd amendment. I’m also a firm believer in giving law enforcement the tools it needs to fight crime.

You don't have to be an expert on firearms to know that this is the usual:

WE'RE TOO STUPID,LAZY OR WEAK TO ENFORCE THE LAW ON THE CRIMINALS SO ENFORCE IT ON THE REGULAR (poor hapless) CITIZEN"

Yes, it is expensive and unfeasible. Worse than that it is that it will do nothing to reduce crime or assist law enforcement leading to more "helpful" laws like banning firearms altogether.

You want to give law enforcement tools to fight crime?...reform the culture and the ruling political class to stop making excuses for the criminal class in this country.

16 posted on 12/15/2008 10:06:05 AM PST by AreaMan
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To: MahatmaGandu

Most of these bills (I did not read the GA one) have a provision mandating that you turn in all unserialized ammo/bullets, usually without compensation.

Get caught with an unserialized projectile, go to jail.


17 posted on 12/15/2008 10:06:24 AM PST by DBrow
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To: domenad
Is it too expensive,

Yes. The lasers required to do this would require a massive retooling and run at _LEAST_ 150k per Yag marker. Automation costs could be way more than that.

I’m also a firm believer in giving law enforcement the tools it needs to fight crime.

What makes you believe this will help solve any crime? It will be exactly as effective as ballistic fingerprinting. Look that up if you need to know just how effective that has been.

18 posted on 12/15/2008 10:06:38 AM PST by Malsua
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To: domenad
A company called "Ammunition Accountability" is pushing a law in multiple states to force the adoption of their ammunition labeling technology. The cartridge case, bullet base and box would carry a unique serial number. You will have to "register" to purchase the ammo which also carries a 5 cents a round "tax". In addition, on a specified date in 2011, you will be required to destroy all ammunition in your possession that is not "coded".

This is a blatant violation of the 2nd amendment and 5th amendment. When taxes were laid on ink for printing presses, it was deemed an infringement on the 1st amendment. The tax was overturned. Forcing people to destroy existing ammunition stock WITHOUT COMPENSATION is a direct violation of the 5th amendment "takings" clause.

Government has no business using the legislative process to further the commercial aims of this company nor to trample on Constitutionally protected rights.

Making possession of unencoded ammunition a crime isn't giving law enforcement a tool to fight crime. It's giving them a means of entrapment of law abiding citizens.

19 posted on 12/15/2008 10:07:47 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: domenad

My first thought was it would make ammo very expensive. Secondly, it would limit the freedom of ammo manufactures to run their business the way they see fit. My next thought was, why isn’t someone sponsoring legislation to limit the speech of the press? Because “shall not be infringed” is still in the constitution.


20 posted on 12/15/2008 10:08:11 AM PST by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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