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Burglary goes bad when would-be thief, homeowner trade shots in Ogden
The Deseret News ^ | 16 December, 2008 | Ben Winslow

Posted on 12/18/2008 8:17:24 AM PST by marktwain

OGDEN — Officers have arrested a man they say tried to break into a home and then traded shots with the homeowner in the middle of the street. Ogden police said it happened about 9 a.m. Tuesday at a home on the 200 block of 29th Street when two men tried to break in.

"They were kicking in the door, and the man was inside with his family," Ogden Police Lt. Scott Sangberg said Tuesday. "He went to the door with his 9 mm (handgun). Then the guy realized that the place wasn't vacant and started to leave."

As he was leaving, police said one of the would-be burglars fired a gun at the homeowner.

"The owner took a shot at him," Sangberg said.

The homeowner gave police a description of the men and the green Dodge Intrepid they fled in. Police recognized it from an attempted burglary case they dealt with the week before and went to the suspect's home, where he was arrested.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: 9mm; banglist; homedefense; utah
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It is good that they caught the perpetrator.
1 posted on 12/18/2008 8:17:25 AM PST by marktwain
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Police recognized it from an attempted burglary case they dealt with the week before and went to the suspect's home, where he was arrested.

Willl they have to do this all over again next week?

2 posted on 12/18/2008 8:19:57 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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my first thought was “cool.. it’s daylight (9am).. the homeowner ought to be able sight better for a good shot!”

Geesh.. don’t these guys aim?? Go for the knees and/or the car tires!


3 posted on 12/18/2008 8:26:10 AM PST by DDLL
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“Go for the knees and/or the car tires!”

Center mass, double tap.


4 posted on 12/18/2008 8:28:25 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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“Go for the knees and/or the car tires!”

Just the knees will be enough!


5 posted on 12/18/2008 8:31:40 AM PST by chainsaw
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To: marktwain

So, how does a burglary go “good”?


6 posted on 12/18/2008 8:33:38 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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When the would-be burglar actually gets hit?

Well, that would be a good outcome from the victim’s perspective anyway.


7 posted on 12/18/2008 8:42:07 AM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (God helps those who help themselves. The government helps those who don't.)
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"Detectives were still investigating the case, Sangberg said, including whether the homeowner would face any charges in the shooting."

If this is factual (the part that was understandable), what exactly did the homeowner do wrong? Why would it be any question as to whether the homeowner would face charges?
8 posted on 12/18/2008 8:47:46 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden (I)
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I wouldn't recommend shooting for the tires. Most self defense laws allow the use of deadly force in the face of a deadly force threat. Shooting at the tires is an attempt to apprehend.

If you shoot for the tires you may find yourself facing charges.

9 posted on 12/18/2008 8:51:27 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: DDLL; Beagle8U; chainsaw
Go for the knees and/or the car tires!

That's EXACTLY how you miss your target, and thus present yourself as one.

The target is the perp. Center of mass is the target, as Beagle said.

People watch too much tv.

You pull that trigger, you'd better be ready to kill someone, and everything that goes with that, or you have no business pointing a gun.

10 posted on 12/18/2008 8:54:40 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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Exactly. If you aren’t mentally and physically ready to take another persons life, then you’ve got no business pointing a gun toward them, much less pulling a trigger.


11 posted on 12/18/2008 8:56:21 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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You pull that trigger, you'd better be ready to kill someone, and everything that goes with that, or you have no business pointing a gun.

I made my peace with that thought before I left for Viet Nam in 1969. I'd much rather the other guy die for his country than have me to die for mine.

12 posted on 12/18/2008 9:16:59 AM PST by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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Burglary goes bad when would-be thief, homeowner trade shots in Ogden

I guess it would have been a 'good' burglary if the thief had been able to get away with the goods, without a mere homeowner defying him! That headline really rubs me the wrong way.

13 posted on 12/18/2008 9:21:41 AM PST by kaylar
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Shouldn’t the title be “Burglary turns Good...”?


14 posted on 12/18/2008 9:21:58 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (What size shot works best on 4 calling birds?)
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To: Retired COB

Yeah. People who have no business with a gun can usually be identified by their “shoot their knees out” or other big talk.

Responsible operators are uniformly solemn and reserved about it.


15 posted on 12/18/2008 9:23:45 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Retired COB
Retired COB said: "I made my peace with that thought before I left for Viet Nam in 1969. "

I did the same. That environment required that you be ready to act. It's too late to consider the possibilities once the firing starts. Fortunately for me, the Signal Corps suffered few casualties during that time. Mostly traffic accidents.

16 posted on 12/18/2008 9:37:44 AM PST by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: DDLL

Knees? Why not just shoot the gun out of his hand? ROFL.

Aim center of mass and you will hit something. Aim for a small moving target and you will hit nothing (but maybe an innocent bystander or someone in another house). Make your aim for the largest part of the body and you will take them down.

You’ve been watching too many movies.


17 posted on 12/18/2008 9:50:29 AM PST by RickB
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Thank goodness the suspect wasn’t hurt.

...or he’s have a lawsuit (in a lot of states).


18 posted on 12/18/2008 9:55:31 AM PST by BobL
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So, how does a burglary go “good”?

When the burglar is picked up by the coroner instead of the cops.

19 posted on 12/18/2008 11:54:42 AM PST by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
If this is factual (the part that was understandable), what exactly did the homeowner do wrong? Why would it be any question as to whether the homeowner would face charges?

The homeowner had plenty opportunities to legally and safely shoot the crook dead while the crook was trying to break into his home. Instead, he fired as the crook was fleeing down the street. The law tends to frown on this (as do neighbors).

20 posted on 12/18/2008 12:06:13 PM PST by Drew68
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