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7 students suspended for refusing anti-Christian class
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | December 20, 2008 | WorldNetDaily

Posted on 12/20/2008 10:01:53 AM PST by gscc

Seven Christian students in Quebec have been handed suspensions in the last few days – and could face expulsions – for refusing to participate in a new mandatory Ethics and Religious Culture course that, according to a critic, is a "superficial mishmash of trendy theoretical platitudes" with the goal of convincing children that "all religions – including pagan animism and cults – are equally 'true.'"

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TOPICS: Canada; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antichristian; christianstudents; highereducation; quebec
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1 posted on 12/20/2008 10:01:54 AM PST by gscc
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To: gscc

Well we know the truth, don’t we? :)

Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. No man cometh to the Father but by Him.


2 posted on 12/20/2008 10:03:34 AM PST by deannadurbin
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To: gscc

Coming to a school in America ...


3 posted on 12/20/2008 10:04:13 AM PST by LiberConservative (Stop climate change!!!!)
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To: gscc

We will be assimilated.


4 posted on 12/20/2008 10:05:22 AM PST by skeeter
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To: gscc

Tabernac! I would not have expected that from Quebec. When I was growing up and learning to speak French-Canadian, Quebec was considered to be staunchly Catholic.

It was even reasonably staunchly Catholic when I last visited, in 1994.

I wonder what happened?


5 posted on 12/20/2008 10:08:54 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: gscc

You know, a balanced religions survey class is extremely helpful. Even Christians ought to know what is going on with the other religions in the world, then when they encounter them they are prepared. On the other hand, if the class is promoting an agenda, that’s not good.


6 posted on 12/20/2008 10:12:41 AM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: gscc

My undergraduate had a “world religions” class that people “joked” was the class where people gave up their Christian faith. Wasn’t always true, of course, but the stereotype came from somewhere.


7 posted on 12/20/2008 10:18:08 AM PST by kc8ukw
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To: LiberConservative
“Coming to a school in America...”

Future Education secretary Arne Duncan of “Gay High” will see to it I'm sure of it. The establishment knows they can't have you so they want your kids..

8 posted on 12/20/2008 10:22:01 AM PST by 444Flyer (Razzle Dazzle 'em and they'll never catch wise...right 0?)
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To: gscc
"But in fact, there is a deep interpretive chasm between Christianity's 'others' and Judaism's 'neighbour' – both of which refer to all people – and Islam's 'brother,' which refers only to fellow Muslims. Here is 'divergence and dissonance' truly worthy of 'le questionnement.' But encouraging real critical thinking is precisely what the ERC course employs duplicity to avoid," she wrote.

I actually would have no problem with "comparative religion" courses that objectively looked at the different religions on planet Earth and compared them critically, point by point.

What religion has, in its text, the instruction to go out and murder all non-believers?

And what religion, as a matter of historical fact, laid the intellectual foundations for democracy, human rights and all of modern science?

These are interesting questions.

But you will never find these questions discussed in one of these leftist "religion" courses.

The fact is, Leftism is the hot new religion among the intelligentsia and if you dare gave a course questioning the principles of Leftism... wow, what a hornet's nest of angry, anti-freespeech, leftist professors you'd stir up then.

9 posted on 12/20/2008 10:25:00 AM PST by samtheman
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To: VictoryGal

People can learn about other religions on their own time. I’ve done it, many many others have as well. This is an indoctrination class that says all religions are equally true. Blatant lie.


10 posted on 12/20/2008 10:44:54 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: gscc
If religious instruction of children is important to someone, home school and private school are the only realistic alternatives.

I'm not sure of the legal situation in Canada, but the only way (as far as I'm aware?) you could bring a Bible into a public school classroom (in America) is as part of religious studies curriculum.

While that may appeal to some Christians, it's a recipe for disaster.

Most of the kids will spend their time looking up the dirty parts of the Bible and the smart kids will rip apart every pre-Enlightenment idea they can find.

The handful of Christians kids in the class - unable to answer the questions posed by the smart kids ("Hey, your perfect Bible is wrong about π!",) - will be tormented and will learn to be embarrassed by their faith.

So, yeah.... Home school or private school.

11 posted on 12/20/2008 10:48:57 AM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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"The curriculum is strewn with politically correct material that openly subverts Judeo-Christian values. In many of the manuals, ideology and religion are conflated. Social engineering is revealed as the heart of the ECR program; in the most recently published activity book, for example, Christianity is given 12 pages, feminism gets 27 pages...."

She continued, "Paganism and cults are offered equal status with Christianity. Witches 'are women like any other in daily life;' 'Technologically [the Raelians] are 25,000 years in advance of us.' And considering that of the 80,000 ethnic aboriginals in Quebec only 700 self-identify with aboriginal spirituality (the vast majority of ethnic aboriginals are Christian), aboriginal spirituality (falsely equated with environmentalism) is accorded hugely disproportionate space and reverence."


There's nothing wrong with a course that provides a survey of religious beliefs, which reads each faith generously on its own terms, without any agenda to indoctrinate. But clearly this course has an agenda.

Of course I have a more radical position, which is to abolish public education altogether. Privatize the schools, and make the kids earn their education. If they can't compete and can't behave, send them to boot camp instead.
12 posted on 12/20/2008 10:56:03 AM PST by bdeaner
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To: deannadurbin
Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. No man cometh to the Father but by Him.

Ahhh. I just love those words that Jesus spoke to Thomas. Every time I read them I get such a sense of peace and am filled with such a joy in my heart.

Thank you and have a joyous Christmas.

13 posted on 12/20/2008 11:31:56 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (A couple of pints and a package of crisps....ahhh. Life's good.)
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To: deannadurbin
Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. No man cometh to the Father but by Him.

Shout it from the mountain tops!!! AMEN and AMEN!! Polly

14 posted on 12/20/2008 11:34:28 AM PST by pollywog (I will lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help. My help comes from the Lord...Ps 121)
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To: gscc
What in hades happened to Canada?

. . . nevermind, my question answers itself.

15 posted on 12/20/2008 1:14:51 PM PST by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

> People can learn about other religions on their own time. I’ve done it, many many others have as well.

Yes, and many people have learned world history and geography on their own as well. If it were treated purely as information about what people believe and the history of it, without advocacy, it is good information to have just as world geography and history is.

> This is an indoctrination class that says all religions are equally true. Blatant lie.

If that is the message, that is a shame. However, is it true that this is what they are teaching, or is it that they are presenting the raw facts about the religions and it is being thought they are teaching that they are all “equal”? There’s a difference.

It is a shame that a class like this cannot be taught dispassionately and well. For example, I would like kids to know — what are Sunnis, what are Shiites? Why do they hate each other and what is the history of it? What’s up with the history of India and Pakistan and the Hindu/Muslim divide? This is all information that is good for every citizen to have in these troubled times, to understand the violent forces clashing in the Middle East. I for one do not trust our leaders to do “whatever” to make us safe, I want to be able to be heard as an informed citizen.

I remember well the comparitive religions class that I had in my Catholic high school and what I learned there was incredibly useful for me in understanding world events. The truth of our religion need not fear information about rites and history of others.


16 posted on 12/20/2008 2:05:37 PM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: VictoryGal

Of course, what would any saved Christian want to be doing when Jesus comes back? Sitting in a class learning about “comparative religions”, or out spreading the gospel to the lost of the world, as Jesus commanded each believer to do until He returned?

God cuts through the worldly nonsense and He reads our hearts. The only reason to learn about comparative religions in the biblical sense is to use that study to show why Christianity is true and all other religions are false. Only that is pleasing to God. :)


17 posted on 12/20/2008 3:26:36 PM PST by deannadurbin
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To: gscc

Wouldn’t it be funny if every student decided not to attend and the entire school was suspended.


18 posted on 12/20/2008 3:41:10 PM PST by Chewbacca (Buy gold and silver coins to profit from the comming dollar melt down!)
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To: VictoryGal

You don’t need a ‘religions’ class then. What you are describing can be taught ‘dispassionately’ as history class (or classes).


19 posted on 12/20/2008 4:05:37 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: deannadurbin

> Of course, what would any saved Christian want to be doing when Jesus comes back? Sitting in a class learning about “comparative religions”, or out spreading the gospel to the lost of the world, as Jesus commanded each believer to do until He returned?

Keep in mind an effective witness for the Lord is familiar with the culture and spirituality of those they’re trying to convert. If you were planning to lead a man out of the dark forest, wouldn’t you want a map to the craggy oak they were trapped in?

God gave us brains for a reason.


20 posted on 12/20/2008 5:01:22 PM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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