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Two centuries on, a salute to Charles Darwin: Hero for our age
The Daily Mail ^ | Decemberf 27, 2008 | Desmond Morris

Posted on 12/27/2008 5:57:08 PM PST by Inappropriate Laughter

As the world faces an uncertain future, Britain's leading anthropologist toasts Darwin, born 200 years ago, for identifying adaptability as man's greatest asset

Charles Darwin

Charles Darwin: His observations undermined the traditionally held view of 'stability of species'

There is a strange object sitting on my desk as I write. It is a shiny sphere of fossilised, primeval slime. Known technically as stromatolites, this blue-green slime was the original ooze from which all life on this planet evolved.

This painfully slow process began about 3,000 million years ago and has led, ultimately, to us, the extraordinary human species.

Whenever my gaze happens to fall upon my lump of fossilised slime I experience a strange sensation, a deep respect, for I am looking at my most ancient ancestor.

Yours, too, unless you still believe in the tale of Adam and Eve and a talking serpent in the Garden of Eden.

In a few weeks, on February 12 to be exact, the scientific world will be celebrating the bicentenary of the birth of Charles Darwin, the man whose theory of the gradual evolution of living things has changed the way in which most of us see the world in which we live.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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1 posted on 12/27/2008 5:57:08 PM PST by Inappropriate Laughter
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To: Inappropriate Laughter

As a devout Christian, allow me to write that Darwin’s accomplishment was a spark of genius. What happened to him for the rest of his life after giving voice to one of the most brilliant obeservational conclusions is another matter.


2 posted on 12/27/2008 5:59:32 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Inappropriate Laughter

I believe in Adam and Eve and the talking serpent.


3 posted on 12/27/2008 6:02:47 PM PST by nobama08
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To: MHGinTN

Some would have you believe that any insight into the Divine process that God introduced life into a dynamic universe is blasphemy, but that is the product of the same small mind types who persecuted those who taught that the sun, not the earth was the center of the solar system.


4 posted on 12/27/2008 6:03:16 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Inappropriate Laughter

Here we go again ... just put the popcorn in the microwave. ;-)


5 posted on 12/27/2008 6:06:32 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Inappropriate Laughter

The only thing that Darwin ever did was prove that if your BS is recorded in enough detail, history is your oyster. ;-)


6 posted on 12/27/2008 6:10:13 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Natural Law

I am convinced that what Charles Darwin stated from observation was one of the most brilliant human offerings ever. I am not given to arguing over the nuances others added or the wayward conclusions he came to later in life. But for shear brilliance, I mean, give credit where credit is due!


7 posted on 12/27/2008 6:11:10 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: doc1019

Oh no, use an airpopper, much better ...


8 posted on 12/27/2008 6:12:19 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: doc1019

LOL. But how about Planet of the Apes? Dr Zaas says ape was made in God’s image.


9 posted on 12/27/2008 6:12:19 PM PST by sickoflibs (GWB : "Give me a 700B blank check to save the UAW until Obama takes office")
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To: Inappropriate Laughter; Soliton

*PING* to Soliton!

Oh wait, he opus’d out the other night.

“Never mind!”


10 posted on 12/27/2008 6:13:34 PM PST by mkjessup
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To: MHGinTN

As a devout Christian who lives in New Zealand, I believe in Creation AND Evolution: the two ideas coexist beautifully if you do not insist on taking the first few books of Genesis literally.

It is impossible to live in New Zealand or Australia and seriously believe in the Genesis account literally and in isolation.

Charles Darwin was a genius who got it about half-right.


11 posted on 12/27/2008 6:16:09 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Inappropriate Laughter

There are those who believe Darwin plagarized his most critical ideas from Wallace.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article5404130.ece


12 posted on 12/27/2008 6:17:32 PM PST by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: Natural Law

Many of us are content with a 2 model approach in academia. We, however, have observed the “Small minds,” you describe as those with your point of view who would shut us out of academic discussion, forbid our children to hear that they were formed by intelligent design, and even refuse us graduate degrees because we don’t dance to your piping or weep to your mourning.

Evolutionists are the true Ptolemaics in our world-—Much as the global warming cult refuses to hear any evidence to the contrary.


13 posted on 12/27/2008 6:19:52 PM PST by TFMcGuire (Life is tough. It is even tougher if you are stupid--John Wayne)
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To: doc1019
Two centuries on, a salute to Charles Darwin: Hero for our age

Two hundred years on people have forgotten that Charles Darwin was the Rosa Parks of the naturalism movement. Like Rosa, there were others who had come before but who were, for other reasons, just not quite right, but like Rosa, he was sufficient for their purposes at the time.
14 posted on 12/27/2008 6:20:00 PM PST by aruanan
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Placemarker while I get the popcorn going.


15 posted on 12/27/2008 6:22:05 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: mkjessup
"Oh wait, he opus’d out the other night."

I did not know that. I had to look it up. Wowser!! Another FatBoySlim or whatever his name was that had a doozie opus.

16 posted on 12/27/2008 6:23:18 PM PST by BipolarBob (Even the earth is bipolar.)
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To: Inappropriate Laughter
This painfully slow process began about 3,000 million years ago and has led, ultimately, to us, the extraordinary human species

He knows this because he was there to scientifically observe this process.

17 posted on 12/27/2008 6:23:27 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: TFMcGuire
"Many of us are content with a 2 model approach in academia.

Why limit it to two models? Surely there is as much evidence to support the creation stories of the Hindus and Buddhists.

18 posted on 12/27/2008 6:30:00 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Inappropriate Laughter
This painfully slow process began about 3,000 million years ago

Oh goody, another scientifically accurate essay by some highly educated superior force.

19 posted on 12/27/2008 6:30:30 PM PST by BykrBayb (May God have mercy on our souls. ~ Þ)
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To: Inappropriate Laughter

“Yours, too, unless you still believe in the tale of Adam and Eve and a talking serpent in the Garden of Eden.”

Condescending much? It’s not enough to make his case for his faith in fossilized slime, he has to take a snarky shot at Christianity. Nice.

Hey if you want to believe a rock is your ancestor, have at it. I believe in religious tolerance, unlike the author.


20 posted on 12/27/2008 6:37:01 PM PST by News Junkie
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To: Inappropriate Laughter

Come’on folks, I still have half a bag of popcorn to go! ;-)


21 posted on 12/27/2008 6:44:48 PM PST by doc1019
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*raises a beer to Darwin*


22 posted on 12/27/2008 6:48:07 PM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: doc1019

23 posted on 12/27/2008 6:57:43 PM PST by Inappropriate Laughter
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To: Inappropriate Laughter

Cous’ ;-)


24 posted on 12/27/2008 7:00:40 PM PST by doc1019
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To: mkjessup

Soliton is GONE?

Thank God.


25 posted on 12/27/2008 7:09:00 PM PST by Amadeo
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To: Amadeo
Yep, here's his Opus:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2154313/posts

Enjoy your night!
26 posted on 12/27/2008 7:11:11 PM PST by mkjessup
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To: Inappropriate Laughter

                    daddy!
27 posted on 12/27/2008 7:20:59 PM PST by smokingfrog (I'll go green when they plant me in the ground.)
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To: Inappropriate Laughter

The real question is WHEN did TIME begin and Where is the end of the Universe? Would some scientist please address these questions. Thanks.


28 posted on 12/27/2008 7:35:36 PM PST by LeonardFMason
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To: MHGinTN
Darwin was a fool. The fossil record, specifically the Cambrian Explosion, proves him absolutely wrong. Species appear suddenly and fully-formed in the fossil record and show no evidence of the gradualism Darwin predicted.

To be a Christian and not know that is disgraceful.

29 posted on 12/27/2008 7:39:27 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Inappropriate Laughter

I bet Darwin doesn’t believe it now. . . .


30 posted on 12/27/2008 7:48:40 PM PST by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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To: CE2949BB

31 posted on 12/27/2008 7:57:55 PM PST by Inappropriate Laughter
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To: TFMcGuire
you describe as those with your point of view who would shut us out of academic discussion, forbid our children to hear that they were formed by intelligent design, and even refuse us graduate degrees because we don’t dance to your piping or weep to your mourning.

No one has ever stopped you from teaching your children what you want in your churches. No one has demanded to teach evolution in your churches.

Try this on for size, insist on teaching your version of creation to Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, American Indians, Zorastians and so on. I'm sure they would be happy to reciprocate.

32 posted on 12/27/2008 8:02:31 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: Inappropriate Laughter

“This painfully slow process began about 3,000 million years ago and has led, ultimately, to us, the extraordinary human species.”

The author gives himself way too much credit. More like, “has led, ultimately, to me, a half wit.”


33 posted on 12/27/2008 8:11:37 PM PST by Rembrandt
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To: Inappropriate Laughter

Much of the lies about Christians not believing in evolution comes from a movie written by a communist called “Inherit the Wind” that was filled with lies and anti-Christian propaganda. What the State had a problem with was that teaching evolution should not include mankind. There reason was that bedsides not being proven that we evolved like other animals, they were afraid that IF man was considered just another animal then people would stop trying to be Godly and start acting like animals. That we would give into animal urges and stop trying to be civilized which would create all sorts of problems. The communist saying “if it feels good, do it” is a step away from controlling our morality and a step toward acting like mindless animals. In retrospect they were right.


34 posted on 12/27/2008 8:21:48 PM PST by Exton1
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To: Inappropriate Laughter; neverdem; Clemenza; rmlew; Yehuda; firebrand
If conservatives had taken the Darwinian concepts of survival of the fittest and adaptation we would not have lost the last elections and we certainly would not have chosen McLame as our standard bearer.

We are about to lose the war on terror to the muslies simply on the principle of persistence (theirs, not ours). Time to dust off Darwin and apply his principles to the dog eat dog world we live in.

35 posted on 12/27/2008 8:36:45 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Cacique
Time to dust off Darwin and apply his principles to the dog eat dog world we live in.

Dust off Sun Tzu instead.

36 posted on 12/27/2008 8:47:59 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Inappropriate Laughter

Anyone here see the South Park episodes that have Richard Dawkins in them? In a future (time travel) world, God is not mentioned and only science is worshipped. As a result, people go around saying ‘Oh my science!’ and “Science d*mn you!”


37 posted on 12/27/2008 9:24:01 PM PST by ikka (Brother, you asked for it!)
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To: Ol' Sparky

You are now on the incredulity list. Go wipe the spittle from your beard.


38 posted on 12/27/2008 9:25:23 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Inappropriate Laughter

Click the pic for an alternate view. Robert Felix nicely documents the extinction cycle at each magnetic reversal. His theory explains why soot and coal are found ABOVE the remains of the previous period and why heavy metals and radioactive elements are found in abundance at each boundary. Also noted is the appearance of fully formed new species of plants and animals that remain stable to the next extinction boundary. They arrive fully formed. No smooth links are observed as Darwin "predicted".

39 posted on 12/27/2008 9:27:58 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Coyoteman
This sort of argument from Ol’Sparky reminds me of a numismatist fanatic who insists there are no pennies with the year 1943 on them because he has examined the ten thousand pennies he has saved over the years and there is not a single one with 1943 date on it. The arrogance to insult arises from insecurity.
40 posted on 12/27/2008 9:29:13 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Inappropriate Laughter
Thanks to him, we see ourselves as part of nature, instead of separate from it and superior to it.

Call yourself a tree and you become a tree. Or, think of yourself as a tree and you will be stumping for evolution.

41 posted on 12/27/2008 10:03:04 PM PST by taxesareforever (Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
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To: MHGinTN

Would you like to respond to the point? The point being that the known fossil record is incompatible with Darwin’s theory?


42 posted on 12/27/2008 10:15:58 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Inappropriate Laughter

Kepler ftw


43 posted on 12/27/2008 10:16:36 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Ol' Sparky
You must be dense. You insult my intelligence then invite me to play in your sandbox by your rules. What a Maroon! Nowhere have I said Darwin got it all right. I admire the brilliance of his theory based as it was upon observation without the genetic science we have today.

I certainly would not step into your sty to give you ease to spread your smelly manure. It never seems to occur to fanatics like you that the final answers are not in, that you do not have all the pieces of a very complex puzzle, and that your ilk miss too many worthy points because of your condescending zeal to stomp someone for not following along as you lead into the abyss.

Go insult someone else for your ego trip, doofus.

44 posted on 12/27/2008 10:25:09 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Cacique

I sense a coming FDR, PART II. What will happen when domestic economic interventions are a flop?


45 posted on 12/27/2008 10:52:09 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
It is impossible to live in New Zealand or Australia and seriously believe in the Genesis account literally and in isolation.

Well like Alexander John Dowie and Ken Ham, America beckons.

It's classic Darwinism, with both artificial and natural selection.


46 posted on 12/28/2008 6:19:35 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Kill the English their concept of individual rights might undermine the power of our beloved tyrants)
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To: MHGinTN
But for shear brilliance, I mean, give credit where credit is due!

Ya, this is really good science:

"There is not the least inherent improbability, as it seems to me, in virtuous tendencies being more or less strongly inherited; for, not to mention the various dispositions and habits transmitted by many of our domestic animals to their offspring, I have heard of authentic cases in which a desire to steal and a tendency to lie appeared to run in families of the upper ranks; and as stealing is a rare crime in the wealthy classes, we can hardly account by accidental coincidence for the tendency occurring in two or three members of the same family. If bad tendencies are transmitted, it is probable that good ones are likewise transmitted." [Darwin, Descent]

"There is ample evidence that the effects of mutilations and of accidents, especially or perhaps exclusively when followed by disease, are occasionally inherited. There can be no doubt that the evil effects of the long-continued exposure of the parent to injurious conditions are sometimes transmitted to the offspring. So it is, as we shall see in a future chapter, with the effects of the use and disuse of parts, and of mental habits." [Darwin, Variation v2]

"With respect to Jews, I have been assured by three medical men of the Jewish faith that circumcision, which has been practised for so many ages, has produced no inherited effect. Blumenbach, however, asserts that Jews are often born in Germany in a condition rendering circumcision difficult, so that a name is given them signifying "born circumcised,"... Dr. Riedel... in North Celebes writes to me that the boys there go naked until from six to ten years old; and he has observed that many of them, though not all, have their prepuces much reduced in length, and this he attributes to the inherited effects of the operation... Notwithstanding the above several negative cases, we now possess conclusive evidence that the effects of operations are sometimes inherited." [Darwin, Variation v1]

Inbred Science
47 posted on 12/28/2008 7:15:05 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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To: Inappropriate Laughter

Like Ann Coulter I like beagles. The ship Darwin made famous was called the Beagle. I salute him for that.


48 posted on 12/28/2008 7:23:05 AM PST by xp38
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To: Ol' Sparky
Darwin was a fool.
"[Darwin] was one of the great philosophers of all time, but his philosophy of biology differs so fundamentally from the philosophies based on logic..."

-- Darwin Medalist Ernst Mayr.


49 posted on 12/28/2008 7:34:56 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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To: Inappropriate Laughter
Thanks to him, we see ourselves as part of nature, instead of separate from it and superior to it. If it weren't for him, we would not be concerned about the way we have, in our arrogant past, ravaged the small planet on which we live.

This is the narcissistic leftist view of man. They only accept half of Darwin, the natural selection part. But Darwin wrote that we descended from tribal warfare. We are not natural but are the result of man-made high speed evolution. We are really optimizations for making war. We walk upright to carry weapons and are engineered to walk great distances to do battle. There is no natural need for our intelligence to be far in excess of that to find food or shelter. Human means war maker but the ivory tower leftists completely ignore that very ugly aspect. We are hardly natural and neither are the foods we like to eat. Until academia comes around the creationists have a very valid point. We could not have descended from natural selection.

50 posted on 12/28/2008 7:52:02 AM PST by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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