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Storing the Breeze: New Battery Might [$$$!] Make Wind Power More Reliable
Scientific American ^ | 12/22/8

Posted on 12/29/2008 8:44:15 AM PST by Clint Williams

Winter winds howl off the Dakota prairie through Minnesota, turning the 1,100 megawatts worth of wind turbines in Xcel Energy's system in that state. By 2020, the utility expects to more than triple that amount in a bid to avoid more polluting energy sources. But the wind doesn't always blow and, even worse, it often blows strongest when people aren't using much electricity, like late at night.

So Xcel Energy, Inc., has become one of the first utilities in the U.S. to install a giant battery system in an attempt to store some of that wind power for later. "Energy storage might help us get to the point where we can integrate wind better," says Frank Novachek, director of corporate planning for the Minneapolis-based utility with customers in Colorado, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, New Mexico, the Dakotas, Oklahoma, Texas and Wisconsin. "The overall cost of electricity might be lower by using energy storage."

The energy storage in question—a series of sodium–sulfur batteries from Japan's NGK Insulators, Ltd.—can store roughly seven megawatt-hours of power, meaning the 20 batteries are capable of delivering roughly one megawatt of electricity almost instantaneously, enough to power 500 average American homes for seven hours. "Over 100 megawatts of this technology [is] deployed throughout the world," Novachek says. The batteries "store wind at night and they contract with their utility to put out a straight line output from that wind farm every day."

That removes one of the big hurdles to even broader adoption of wind power: so-called intermittency. In other words, the wind doesn't always blow when you want it to, a problem Texas faced earlier this year when a drop in wind generation forced cuts in electricity delivery. But with battery backup, the 11-megawatt wind farm outside Luverne, Minn., can deliver a set amount of electricity at all times, making it more reliable or, in industry terms, base-load generation. Plus, the battery effectively doubles the wind farm's output at any given moment—both the megawatt being produced by the wind farm itself (that would otherwise have gone to charging the battery) and the megawatt delivered by the battery.

But it is expensive, costing roughly $3 million per megawatt plus millions for start-up and testing. "Right now, they're a little too expensive," Novachek says. But "it's getting in the ballpark where it looks like the economics might be there. Testing will help us understand the value."

So far the battery has been through five charging and recharging cycles and testing will continue through next year, Novachek says. Other utilities, including the Long Island Power Authority in New York State and American Electric Power in Ohio, have used similar or the same batteries to better manage their grids, but this would represent the first battery to store wind power in the U.S.

The battery is not the only storage experiment Xcel Energy is running: It has been testing using electricity from wind and solar installations to generate hydrogen and then burn the hydrogen in a generator to turn it back into electricity when as needed. And the utility has paired with the city of Boulder, Colo., to test plug-in hybrid electric cars as a means of providing electricity during the day when people are at work and not driving.

"The Midwest is a great [wind] resource and we are strategically placed to use that and reduce our carbon footprint," Novachek notes, by replacing some of the 16 coal-fired plants and 28 natural gas power plants the company now operates. "New technologies that are out there might really help us get more green than people had hoped—and energy storage is one of those."


TOPICS: Technical
KEYWORDS: battery; energy

1 posted on 12/29/2008 8:44:15 AM PST by Clint Williams
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To: Clint Williams
But the wind doesn't always blow...

No, but wind power does.

2 posted on 12/29/2008 8:48:36 AM PST by Onelifetogive (Let's get to altering or abolishing!)
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To: Clint Williams

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2152770/posts


3 posted on 12/29/2008 8:49:30 AM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: Clint Williams
"Right now, they're a little too expensive,"

It might be more economical to build a nuke plant, use the nuke to generate electricity. Use that electricity to run a giant fan sitting right in front of the wind turbine. That way, the turbine can generate consistent wind power cheaply.

4 posted on 12/29/2008 8:52:29 AM PST by Onelifetogive (Let's get to altering or abolishing!)
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To: Onelifetogive

LOL!


5 posted on 12/29/2008 8:54:29 AM PST by sionnsar (Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)|http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/|RCongressIn2Years)
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To: Clint Williams
I wonder what costs are associated with these batteries - the magnitude of the $$$ involved.

Original battery cost / battery testing prior to hookup / installation costs.

Replacment costs over the years, as old batteries are hauled away and replaced by new batteries.

Batteries typically have much reduced energy storage capabilities in cold weather. I wonder if that was factored into the sizing of these batteries. Aren't Minnesota nights sometimes a little coolish?

Environmental costs of battery manufacturing, and refubishment of used batteries.

Batteries are HEAVY. How much dollars and carbon are involved hauling them around? Etc....?

6 posted on 12/29/2008 8:56:57 AM PST by willgolfforfood
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To: Clint Williams; Onelifetogive; Red Badger; sionnsar
"Over 100 megawatts of this technology [is] deployed throughout the world," Novachek says.

That is either a typo or a completely meaningless statement.

I think onelifetogive has a good idea about powering windmills in the still night hours with nuke-driven fans!

7 posted on 12/29/2008 8:59:07 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Clint Williams
But with battery backup, the 11-megawatt wind farm outside Luverne, Minn. - And at $3 Million per megawatt (Plus start up cost) = $33 Million + !

Hey lets just spend all the money to build and subsidize these wind farms plus their future battery backup on Nuke plants.

No wind - No Problem.

8 posted on 12/29/2008 9:01:56 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: sam_paine

A single modern wind turbine can generate up to 6 Mega Watts, so 100 Mega Watts isn’t all that impressive........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power


9 posted on 12/29/2008 9:03:04 AM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: Onelifetogive

“It might be more economical to build a nuke plant, use the nuke to generate electricity. Use that electricity to run a giant fan sitting right in front of the wind turbine. That way, the turbine can generate consistent wind power cheaply.”

Had me rolling on the floor.


10 posted on 12/29/2008 9:07:16 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Clint Williams
Inventor Gyro Gearloose has come up with something that will rival his last, great, invention of the solar powered flashlight....it's the windpowered wind powered car.

He has mounted a wind generator on the top of a Yugo, which was converted from gasoline to electric motor power. Initial tests were non-conclusive as he still hasn't figured out out to get the generator up to optimum voltage without using a gasoline powered Hummer to get it up to 100 mph.

The problem has been turned over to the same group of scientists who are serving as Al Gore's advisors. The project is rumored to be funded by T. Boone Pickens.

/sarcasm
11 posted on 12/29/2008 9:14:17 AM PST by FrankR (“Turtle up”, economically, for the duration of the 0bamanation.)
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To: Onelifetogive
Now if you could employ a couple of government flunkies to go out and turn off the fan when the wind is blowing, you'd have a real plan!

You could probably even employ a couple of North Dakota seniors to do it for even less money under this plan.

12 posted on 12/29/2008 9:14:31 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Onelifetogive

Yep, like in those ice storms. LOL


13 posted on 12/29/2008 9:15:55 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Clint Williams
Storing the Breeze: New Battery Might [$$$!] Make Wind Power More Reliable

Yes, and solar cycles MIGHT cause Glow Bull Warming!!!

It's ALL in the weasal wording!!

14 posted on 12/29/2008 9:17:35 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Red Badger

A “Megawatt” is a measure of instantaneous power.

A “Megawatt-hour” is a meaningful measure of energy for storage in batteries.

So “Over 100 megawatts of [battery] technology deployed throughout the world,” is a meaningless statement.


15 posted on 12/29/2008 9:27:08 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine

I think he meant that there were, all over the world, places where this battery technology is installed, capable of supplying 100 MW of power.......


16 posted on 12/29/2008 9:53:06 AM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: Red Badger

Battery capacity is only meaningful in joules, or watt-hours.

An ideal 10 Watt-Hour battery can contain enough charge to supply 100W for 6 minutes, or 5W for 2 hours.

There is a difference between power and capacity.

As I said in the first post, saying there is 100Megawatts of batteries installed is either a typo or a meaningless statement.


17 posted on 12/29/2008 10:15:23 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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