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Why Arabs Believe In Force Fields (Interesting!)
Strategy Page ^ | December 26, 2008

Posted on 01/02/2009 12:07:35 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Many Pakistanis now believe that the recent Islamic terrorist attack in Mumbai, India, was the work of the Israeli Mossad, or the American CIA. Such fantasies are a common explanation, in Moslem nations, for Islamic terrorist atrocities. Especially when women and children, and Moslems, are among the victims, other Moslems tend to accept fantastic explanations shifting the blame to infidels (non-Moslems).

Conspiracies are not unique to the Moslem world, but they are much more common there. After the September 11, 2001 attacks in the United States, many Moslems again blamed Israel. A favorite variation of this is that, before the attacks on the World Trade Center, a secret message went out to all Jews in the area to stay away. Another variation has it that the 19 attackers (all of them Arab, 15 from Saudi Arabia) were really not Arabs, but falsely identified as part of the Israeli deception. In the United States, some Americans insist that the attack was the work of the U.S. government, complete with the World Trade Center towers being brought down by prepositioned explosive charges. While few Americans accept this, the Moslem fantasies are widely accepted in the Moslem world. Even Western educated Arabs, speaking good English, will casually express, and accept, these tales of the Israeli Mossad staging the attacks, to trick the U.S. into attacking Afghanistan and Iraq. Americans are shocked at this, but the Moslems expressing these beliefs just shrug.

American troops arriving in Iraq go through a real culture shock as they encounter these cultural difference. They also discover that the cause of this, and many other Arab problems, is the concept of "inshallah" ("If God wills it.") This is a basic tenet of Islam, although some scholars believe the attitude preceded that religion. In any event, "inshallah" is deadly when combined with modern technology. For this reason, Arab countries either have poorly maintained infrastructure and equipment (including military stuff), or import a lot of foreigners, possessing the right attitudes, to maintain everything. That minority of Arabs who do have the right attitude towards maintenance and personal responsibility are considered odd, but useful.

The "inshallah" thing is made worse by a stronger belief in the supernatural, and magic in general. This often extends to technology. Thus many Iraqis believe that American troops wear sunglasses that see through clothing, and armor vests that are actually air conditioned. When they first encounter these beliefs, U.S. troops thought the Arabs are putting them on. Then it sinks in that Arabs really believe this stuff. It's a scary moment.

However, many troops learn to live with, and even exploit, these odd beliefs. When troops at one base discovered that they weren't being attacked much, because many of the locals believed that the base was surrounded by a force field, the troops would casually make reference to their force field, when they were outside the wire and among the locals. This reinforced the force field myth, and made the base safer. Other troops would invent new fantasies, like a pretending that a handheld bit of military electronics was actually a mind reading device. That often made interrogations go a lot quicker. Not all Arabs believe in this stuff, and those that didn't and worked for the Americans, often as an interpreter, could only shrug their shoulders when asked about it.

This easy acceptance of fantasies is exploited by leaders throughout the Middle East, and the Moslem world in general. Leaders who know better, build on these fantasies as a way to maintain their control over the population. The problem is a dirty little secret in the Moslem world, that leaders and academics don't even like to discuss it openly, much less with infidels. But it is real, and you can read all about it in the local media, or overhear it in the coffee shops.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arabs; forcefields; india; inshallah; iraq; islam; jihad; mumbai; muslims; pakistan; quran
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Poor, dumb, superstitious, stuck in the 7th Century and in love with your goat is no way to go through life, son!
1 posted on 01/02/2009 12:07:36 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Part of the reason they so easily live under tyrants and dictators.


2 posted on 01/02/2009 12:14:46 AM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Certain socio-economic groups in the U.S. believe pretty bizarre things, too.

BTW, all the Arabs have to do is watch American movies to get the idea that the CIA or the U.S. military or someone similar would do something like take down the WTC.


3 posted on 01/02/2009 12:17:16 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body. -C.S. Lewis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Every time you pray to allah it lobotomizes your brain by 1%


4 posted on 01/02/2009 12:20:50 AM PST by dennisw (On the 31st floor a gold plated door won't keep out the Lord's burning rage ---FBB)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wait till they hear about Karl Rove’s Halliburton weather machine.


5 posted on 01/02/2009 12:23:42 AM PST by TheWasteLand
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is truly a shame that a civilization that once contributed to mathematics and other academia have been forced to live in the dark ages due to a control of knowledge which truly is a form of mental slavery.


6 posted on 01/02/2009 12:24:30 AM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
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To: SJackson; Alouette

Of possible interest to your lists.


7 posted on 01/02/2009 12:31:17 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("Every few generations the really, really bad ideas come back around for another go."--Howard Tayler)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It is difficult to understand science and technology when your culture is lacking in innovation itself.
Islamic countries are known for their scientific advances in the areas of desalination, falconry and camel reproduction. Unfortunately, that's about it....

As the Nobel prize winning physicist Steven Weinberg said, there has been virtually no development in the area of Islamic science since the death of scholar and mystic, al-Ghazali in 1111.

8 posted on 01/02/2009 12:31:24 AM PST by dianed
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To: dianed

This article is in reference to Islam’s science deficit.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v444/n7115/full/444028a.html


9 posted on 01/02/2009 12:34:27 AM PST by dianed
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To: guitarplayer1953
It is truly a shame that a civilization that once contributed to mathematics and other academia have been forced to live in the dark ages due to a control of knowledge which truly is a form of mental slavery.

Only problem is these contributions came from civilized peoples (Hindus Persians) they conquered and either enslaved or forced Islam on them. And if converted to Islam that genius you speak of was soon exterminated

In Islam the highest intellectual endeavor is Koran study and that's what the high IQ people get forced into

10 posted on 01/02/2009 12:35:47 AM PST by dennisw (On the 31st floor a gold plated door won't keep out the Lord's burning rage ---FBB)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

People that believe in magic are succeptible to it.


11 posted on 01/02/2009 12:42:55 AM PST by RC one
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The article's target audience precludes the deeper theological reasons behind this belief. Muslims believe the world is recreated constantly, at infitessimally small increments, like frames in a movie. If you throw a spear, the example goes, that spear is re-created at each position from the moment it leaves your hand until it finds its target. Even some highly credible and respected Protestant theologians like Jonathan Edwards believed in this, or some variant of it.

From a metaphysical/philosophical starting point, this is a rather fascinating area of study, the type of thing men devote entire lives to.

12 posted on 01/02/2009 12:44:18 AM PST by Lexinom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Didn’t we just see the same phenomenon here in the election with the Kool-Aid drinkers?


13 posted on 01/02/2009 12:44:23 AM PST by Technical Editor
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Self victimization is common. It's a defense mechanism that allows to see oneself in a more positive light.

Self victimization can be seen across lines of wealth, nations, race, sex, diseases, careers......etc. It's the attempt to “rationalize” what one normally would perceive as failure and be able to say that some force beyond ones control is to blame.

“It's not our corrupt government, a culture that has no work ethic, but the evil exploitative Western nations why we are poor in Africa.”

“I'm dying of AIDS because of secret experiments by the US government which created this disease.”

“I'm in prison because of my bad parents, because of XYZ.”

The self victimization game is simply an attempt to muddy the waters and take responsibility off ones own shoulders and project this failure onto others. It's also HIGHLY abused in the political arena. Anyone with even a little sense understands how powerful a tool this is and typically low life politicians exploit this. To the black community which is disproportionately hard hit by AIDS pushing the blame off on the US government, secret CIA conspiracies etc. is a whole lot better than looking into a mirror. Of course a whole slew of demagogue black leaders exploit this, like Hitler exploited the already antisemitic undertones in Europe and blamed everything that was wrong in Germany on the Jews. It simply feels better when someone else is to blame, and self victimization goes hand in hand with blaming others in some shape or form. When people self victimize, they ALWAYS shift the blame to someone or something else.

14 posted on 01/02/2009 12:45:04 AM PST by Red6
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Were it not for the real and endless threat posed by the very existence of mohammedans, one could almost feel pity for these people.

Almost...


15 posted on 01/02/2009 12:52:57 AM PST by Dr.Zoidberg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

that about covers the material....


16 posted on 01/02/2009 12:56:05 AM PST by ffff (:)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ping


17 posted on 01/02/2009 12:59:33 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Allah House!


18 posted on 01/02/2009 1:08:59 AM PST by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: TheWasteLand

Wait till they hear about Karl Rove’s Halliburton weather machine.

bwhhahhaaaha yes and i believe calypso louis both cited and boarded a spaceship once upon a time....near chi....

.and another thing... what about the rumor that mother earth has developed a feverish fever here of late....

and what about that car man?...they got a car and it runs on water man...WATER ..but the oil companys killed the inventor see and destroyed the blueprints....

i, for one, am concerned and deeply troubled...


19 posted on 01/02/2009 1:11:05 AM PST by ffff (:)
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To: Lexinom
From a metaphysical/philosophical starting point, this is a rather fascinating area of study, the type of thing men andevote entire lives to.

If they so choose. But not as a raison d'être of an entire culture.

20 posted on 01/02/2009 1:27:13 AM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Because they are ignorant people infused with a backwards culture pushed around by evil “leaders”? It’s almost too easy to imagine that Arabs are by nature mentally inferior at this point. Obviously we know that isn’t true, but they sure don’t give anyone any reason not to think that an Arab or a person foolish enough to accept Islam is a low grade moron.


21 posted on 01/02/2009 1:27:13 AM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: ffff

Ah, the water car conspiracy. I like to engage in a bit of denial and pretend that they really aren’t stupid enough to believe the nonsense they are spewing. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t. lol


22 posted on 01/02/2009 1:39:09 AM PST by WildcatClan (AND THOSE DOESNT BRAIN JUST GO. ---- Cecile Noe)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does anyone care to draw a parallel between these myths and equally irrational myths in the Western world? E.g., global warming, everything is Bush’s fault, Valerie Plame was a bona-fide clandestine agent whose identity needed by law to remain undisclosed, GOP is a party of the rich, Halliburton wields illegitimate power, Bush stole the election, Americans won’t do jobs that illegal immigrants do?


23 posted on 01/02/2009 2:00:34 AM PST by Tax Government
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Infidel 1 George Bush did it!
“Poor, dumb, superstitious, stuck in the 7th Century and in love with your goat is no way to go through life, son!”
Sounds like Liberals!
24 posted on 01/02/2009 2:00:55 AM PST by BellStar ( Rush is still Right!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If someone would just reveal the fact that we make our gunpowder with pig fat so it doesn't matter if you get shot with a bullet or blown to bits with grenade or even a 500 pounder from an unmanned aircraft, you still have bacon bits strewn around with your blood and flesh.

Not a damned one goes to paradise and gets one damn virgin. HeHehehehe!

They don't read FR do they?

25 posted on 01/02/2009 2:01:49 AM PST by chuckles
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
>"Why Arabs Believe In Force Fields

Why not? They believe in flying horses, drinking camel urine is good for them, flies with poison and antidote wings, and murdering earns salvation.

Muck fislam!!! The sooner it is obliterated the better!

26 posted on 01/02/2009 2:22:48 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Proud non productive worker under directive 10-289)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

See, they invented tinfoil. In the 7th century and been wearing it ever since. Everything is always a “plot” by the Mossad or the CIA.


27 posted on 01/02/2009 2:42:50 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Saddam regime used to deliberately plant rumors because they knew the people's proclivity to not only believe them but to spread and embellish them.

These rumors were frequently manifested in order to create more fear of the regime and keep the people in line.

28 posted on 01/02/2009 2:46:44 AM PST by Allegra
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To: ffff

Farrakhan the nut job who was taken aboard a spaceship a mile in diameter that will rain destruction on white America with it’s 1,500 ships with 3 bombs each powerful as the bombs that formed the mountains of the Earth? (except those in nation of islam will be spared).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDI0yX-rVOI

The Earth is OBLONG according to Calypso Louie

BETTER DOWNLOAD THE VIDEOS BECAUSE THEY KEEP DISAPPEARING
(for obvious reasons - lest the idiot world wake up)

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Ted Koppel Interviews Louis Farrakhan

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6274213129254650926

The SAME Farrakhan that says Obama is the “messiah” -

antimessiah perhaps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB-_qUHe3HU


29 posted on 01/02/2009 2:49:18 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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30 posted on 01/02/2009 2:58:00 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I know educated, well credentialed, modern folks who believe we never actually landed on the moon and 9/11 was an inside job. You don’t have to be poor and dumb to believe stupid things.


31 posted on 01/02/2009 3:16:36 AM PST by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned)
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To: WildcatClan

I thought it was a hydrogen car....I heard you pour water into it and pure oxygen comes out the exhaust, which is then recaptured, contained in heavy cylinders, and then sold to medical supply companies. Thus you have a perpetual economic motion machine. Meanwhile, your engine combusts tiny hydrogen bombs all day long.
Further, I saw two of the WTC conspiracy movies. One was produced by a french dude (suspicious already) and the other by the zeitgeist people. Lively entertainment.


32 posted on 01/02/2009 3:21:23 AM PST by SisterK (pop culture is the opiate of the people)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There are actually some American who believe that Obama is NOT a Muslim and that is the least of their fantasies about this sneaky little bitch.


33 posted on 01/02/2009 3:22:12 AM PST by Jeff Gordon ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last." Churchill)
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To: SisterK

Nope. I am not fitted with a tin foil hat.


34 posted on 01/02/2009 3:24:40 AM PST by SisterK (pop culture is the opiate of the people)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If you soak these chicken fleet in cat urine and then shake them at the Force field, it goes away.

Brilliant!

35 posted on 01/02/2009 3:32:02 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: guitarplayer1953
It is truly a shame that a civilization that once contributed to mathematics and other academia...

The Arabs only conquered the advanced civilizations like the Assyrians. The Arabs themselves contributed little to science and the conquered areas soon turned away from the pursuit of knowledge leaving what you find today.

36 posted on 01/02/2009 3:34:48 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We’ve got our own share of whack jobs right here in the good ole’ US of A. 9/11 deniers come quickly to mind.


37 posted on 01/02/2009 4:01:37 AM PST by RU88 (The false messiah can not change water into wine any more than he can get unity from diversity.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Certain socio-economic groups in the U.S. believe pretty bizarre things, too.

This mindset among certain bizarro-American communities is what makes Democratic Underground possible and gives the DUmmie FUnnies the mother-lode of lunacy to showcase.
38 posted on 01/02/2009 4:44:57 AM PST by Cheburashka (Liberalism: a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.)
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To: Allegra
re: The Saddam regime used to deliberately plant rumors

I don't think the average American can even begin to understand how difficult it is for the average Iraqi to take advantage of what our invasion and overthrow of Saddam makes possible for them. It will take decades for them to overcome the absolute fear they lived under for generations.

Living in the 7th century is much more debilitating than any of us can imagine. Heck, I have culture shock when I go to visit my wife's kinfolk in rural Alabama.

We probably spent way too little time and effort early on working with them to help them adjust to the idea of life without Saddam. Much of Iraq was probably very much like New Orleans at the time of Katrina. The population had become so dependent on being told what to do when, where to do it and how to do it that without that guidance they were able to little more than sit on the roofs of their flooded substandard housing and wait for help.

I think had I been calling the shots I would have started with one very small part of Iraq and made it what a 21st century area should be like. Things like electricity 24-hours-a-day, running water, sewer treatment, paved roads, etc. Of course that would include the provision of sufficient security that people in the area could enjoy the benefits of post 7th century life. Then I would have slowly expanded the area as conditions permitted.

39 posted on 01/02/2009 4:47:46 AM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: Straight Vermonter

re: areas soon turned away from the pursuit of knowledge leaving what you find today

Sounds like public education in today’s America.


40 posted on 01/02/2009 4:49:36 AM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The superstitious belief in socialism in the west is just a modern expression of an ancient desire to believe in magic.

The EU is no more sane than the goat-humpers; they are just more tolerant towards those who know how to get things done.

Slightly more tolerant. For now.

But the new Grand Superstition — Global Warming — is going to put an end to that tolerance, in Europe, in America and everywhere in the West.

There’s not fantasy that you can show me in the Arab world that is less fantastical than the leftist notions of what Global Warming is and what must be done to “fix” it.

So please, westerners. Let’s check our feelings of superiority at the door.


41 posted on 01/02/2009 5:03:37 AM PST by samtheman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
More Observations on Arabs here at "Rants and Raves", written by an American who taught English in the Kingdom.
42 posted on 01/02/2009 5:53:39 AM PST by flowerplough (Liberalism undermined: Certain permanent moral and political truths are accessible to human reason.)
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To: jwparkerjr
Things like electricity 24-hours-a-day, running water, sewer treatment, paved roads, etc. Of course that would include the provision of sufficient security that people in the area could enjoy the benefits of post 7th century life.

Well, that's all happening and at a faster clip now that the terrorists aren't blasting everything in sight to Kingdom Come on a daily basis anymore. It still won't happen overnight, but it's moving forward.

The problem with starting with one small part of the country is that it would have caused a lot of resentment from the rest. You'd have had squabbles and perhaps worse over which part of the country would have gotten those benefits first, coupled with fears that we would withdraw before getting to the other provinces or areas.

But it's working now and the Iraqis are learning all kinds of new technology and they're learning enthusiastically.

43 posted on 01/02/2009 5:53:59 AM PST by Allegra
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To: Lexinom

One of the problems with Islam is that their concept of God is that of a completely arbitrary, capricious being, who has no internal law of his own, is bound by no inner dynamic, and thus could at any moment decide to be or do exactly the reverse of what he was being or doing prior to that moment.

This means that everything in creation and nature is therefore contingent. Clearly scientific research is pointless if you really can’t be certain that there is any particular law in the first place or if there is any certainty that this law, if it exists, will be adhered to in the future. In fact, even the concept of future is laden with fear and confusion, because a Muslim can’t depend on the future as being reasonably predictable in any That’s why they tend to rely on bizarre prophecies rather than rational analysis and faith.


44 posted on 01/02/2009 5:54:21 AM PST by livius
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Lawrence of Arabia once said,

“The Arab can be swung on an idea as on a string.”

Meaning that an Arab can be persuaded to do or to believe anything, as long as one can convince the Arab that it was originally his own idea.

I have coworkers who still believe that we never landed on the moon in 1969. When I remind them that our rival in space the USSR did not even attempt to challenge the reality of the moon missions, they just shrug.

Majority of world opinion is pro-Hamas. Go figure.

Lincoln’s observation that one can’t fool all of the people all of the time is in need of update and revision, IMO.


45 posted on 01/02/2009 5:58:11 AM PST by elcid1970 (O Muslim! My cartridges are dipped in pig grease.)
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To: samtheman
So please, westerners. Let’s check our feelings of superiority at the door.

Except you Texans.

46 posted on 01/02/2009 6:03:28 AM PST by laotzu
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Arabs are like truthers and the blacks in New Orleans who think the government blew up the levees, how about that!
47 posted on 01/02/2009 6:09:25 AM PST by Ditter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wonder what they think of global warming...............


48 posted on 01/02/2009 6:09:35 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: guitarplayer1953
It is truly a shame that a civilization that once contributed to mathematics and other academia have been forced to live in the dark ages due to a control of knowledge which truly is a form of mental slavery.

The math came from India after they conquered it. The "golden age" of Islam was the period where they had a steady influx of civilized slaves who knew how to run a civilization for them.

49 posted on 01/02/2009 6:10:32 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (We used to institutionalize the insane. Now we elect them.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have heard, from a number of sources (including a well known professor of Arabic Studies) that “inshallah” is both a saying and an excuse. “I will see you tomorrow, inshallah,” generally means “I’ll show up, if I feel like it.” And if this person doesn’t feel like it the next day, God willed it. “We will not fire upon you tomorrow, inshalla,” means you should prepare for an attack and so on. And they don’t consider it lying. They literally believe that such behavior is what God wanted them to do in that circumstance. Their word, their actions mean nothing. All is controlled by God. Look up fatalism, its pretty much the same thing.


50 posted on 01/02/2009 6:12:47 AM PST by Reaganesque
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