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It's the Senate for Bennet [Colorado]
Rocky Mountain News ^ | January 2, 2009 | Lynn Bartels

Posted on 01/02/2009 9:26:21 AM PST by george76

Denver Public Schools superintendent Michael Bennet is expected to be named Saturday as the future U.S. Senate replacement for Interior Secretary nominee Ken Salazar, according to two Democratic sources who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Gov. Bill Ritter is expected to name his U.S. Senate replacement pick on Saturday, ending a brief but frenzied period of speculation about who will take the seat of Interior Secretary nominee Ken Salazar.

The selection would be preliminary, since Salazar is not expected to resign his U.S. Senate seat until sometime after Jan. 15, when he faces a confirmation hearing — and later vote — to become President-elect Barack Obama's first Interior Secretary.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: 111th; bennet; billritter; colorado; congress; democrat; denver; electionussenate; kensalazar; michaelbennet; nea; payforplay; ritter; salazar; senate; teachersunion; ussenate
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Perhaps its time for Scott McInnis’s turn. Its crazy in CO. In 2002, the Dems were just a Denver and Boulder party. Since 2004, we have really lost gound in the Denver suburbs and even the Mountains. As a result, the CO GOP is just a Colorado Springs party. Sadly this trend are reflected all over the nation.


21 posted on 01/03/2009 11:15:43 AM PST by yongin (Converting people to Mormonism makes the world more conservative)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; ExTexasRedhead; george76; Reagan Man; jan in Colorado; colorado tanker

I don’t know what to think of Bennet. The education establishment (especially the NEA) is lukewarm about him, at best.


22 posted on 01/03/2009 2:56:19 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (If greed is a virtue, than corporate socialism is conservative)
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To: Galactic Overlord-In-Chief; Impy; Clintonfatigued; yongin

I think those 3 have liabilities. Coffman wrong-headedly left his Sec of State job mid-term (and then Auggie promptly appointed a hack rodent to the office). Suthers is a strange man and strikes me as a RINO (and he was a big and early supporter of Slick Willard). Lamborn I don’t have a problem with, but that ugly civil war between him and Joel Hefley/Jeff Crank would be baggage we don’t need in a statewide race. I just literally can’t believe how fast CO’s GOP went into meltdown. A decade ago, it was unimaginable.

Often forgotten, Bob Schaffer actually does currently hold office. He’s a member of the elective body of the state Board of Education (he’s Vice-Chairman), whose boundaries are identical to the Congressional districts. His term doesn’t expire until 2013. He may prefer that to returning to the House, especially if he becomes Chairman (the GOP has a 4-3 majority on it, it just barely held an open seat in the 3rd district by a single %).


23 posted on 01/03/2009 5:35:39 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: yongin

McInnis may be dangerously close to has-been. I never understood his flaking out in 2004. He not only just abruptly quit the Senate race, but then quit the House, too. We should never have lost his seat. I have no idea what he has been doing in the past 4 years, but seems to have just dropped off the radar screen.


24 posted on 01/03/2009 5:37:29 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Tom Tancredo remains a possibility. He’s good on the issues, but the MSM would really go after him. True, the MSM is reflexively anti-Republican and anti-conservative, but getting Tancredo would be a pet project for them.


25 posted on 01/03/2009 5:42:29 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (If greed is a virtue, than corporate socialism is conservative)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Illegals are the #1 issue for me, but I cannot support him under any circumstances. He revealed his character in his behavior while running for President. Were he to get elected, he’d be a beachhead for Slick Willard’s attempt to hijack the 2012 nomination (that’s the payoff).


26 posted on 01/03/2009 6:15:30 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“Were he to get elected, he’d be a beachhead for Slick Willard’s attempt to hijack the 2012 nomination”

If I’m not mistaken, Romney has said that he probably won’t be a candidate in 2012.


27 posted on 01/03/2009 6:29:40 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (If greed is a virtue, than corporate socialism is conservative)
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To: Clintonfatigued

The one thing I’ve learned about him is a simple one. I never believe a word that he says. He’s running.


28 posted on 01/03/2009 6:44:12 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief

I didn’t know Schaffer was on the BofE. Whether he runs of not we need that house seat back.

I heard about the close race for the 3rd district seat of the BoE. Some arrogant news article was all like “this is proof moderate Republican can still compete in the 3rd district”.

My source

http://www.csc.ncsu.edu/faculty/healey/US_election/

Says McStain carried the 3rd district and that shockingly Obama took the 4th.


29 posted on 01/04/2009 12:01:55 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy

What the, oh there are 2 versions of this thread.


30 posted on 01/04/2009 12:04:27 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy

That doesn’t make any sense. CO-4 went rodent for Congress, which it shouldn’t have, but almost none of the counties within it (one ?) voted for the False Messiah.


31 posted on 01/04/2009 12:25:04 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Right only Larimer (Colorado Springs). You wouldn’t think the increase would be enough, 58% for Bush 2004 in district. It could be an error, I think these maps are imperfect they came out some soon after the election. Then again Obama did win according to this source and Dave Leip, Randy Forbes district in VA (57 Bush) thanks to increased black turnout and WI-6 (56 for Bush). I didn’t believe either till Leip said the same thing. This source also has Roscoe Barlett’s Maryland seat going for Obama. I think that can’t be true. 65% for Bush. Must be a mistake.

I can’t wait for the complete numbers to be available on cq politics.com

I was surprised the 3rd went McCain. John Salazar needs to make a primary challenge to what’shisface, we’ll see if Ken is still praising him in that instance.


32 posted on 01/04/2009 12:49:38 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy
"Right only Larimer (Colorado Springs)."

Larimer is up on the WY border, that's Fort Collins (which has had 2 GOP Mayors in a row, including a Hispanic Conservative, Ray Martinez). El Paso County is Colorado Springs. It's disturbing enough that red rot is spreading northward out of Denver/Boulder as it is.

"You wouldn’t think the increase would be enough, 58% for Bush 2004 in district. It could be an error, I think these maps are imperfect they came out some soon after the election."

It's clearly an error, since Larimer doesn't have enough people, nor margin, to override the rest of the district.

"Then again Obama did win according to this source and Dave Leip"

I'm looking at Leip, too (which unfortunately does not have a breakdown for the individual Congressional districts in CO), and he doesn't show that McCain lost the 4th. It looks like McCain did lose the 3rd, since several counties within it (especially the old Hispanic counties, and Pueblo, went against him). But I don't know the total numbers.

"Randy Forbes district in VA (57 Bush) thanks to increased black turnout and WI-6 (56 for Bush)."

Yeah, those are clearly shown, since Leip has the Cong. district maps for those two states. I hadn't realized that McCain carried only a paltry 13 (!) counties in WI, and only won Sensenbrenner's district. That's a disaster. I don't think Pawlenty or Tommy Thompson would've changed that. I still don't understand what kind of an appeal the False Messiah had in wide swaths of rural WI. It seemed the counties nearest the Chicago media market (suburban Milwaukee) were the most put off by him, although not one single county in the state trended GOP from 2004. All the more remarkable down here in TN where we literally and viscerally repulsed by the False one to the point of Nixon-McGovern proportions. Some liberal rodent asked, "What's wrong with TN being so out of step with the country ?" I think the better question is, "What the hell happened to the rest of the country while TN remained a bastion of sanity and clear-headedness ?"

"This source also has Roscoe Barlett’s Maryland seat going for Obama. I think that can’t be true. 65% for Bush. Must be a mistake."

Clearly. Bartlett's district is hyper-Republican, simply because the Dem legislators moved as many Republicans into it (6th) and the 1st as possible (Kratovil I believe is toast in '10, he didn't even win by 1%). Only Baltimore County within Bartlett's district went for the False one, and ostensibly the section he has in the county is probably the most Republican, designed to keep the surrounding Cong districts Dem. Leip doesn't have a map for MD's districts, either.

33 posted on 01/04/2009 1:23:04 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican
Larimer is up on the WY border, that's Fort Collins

Ooopsy. Yes of course C Springs in in the 5th.

Musgrave's continued under performance and large loss are a puzzlement to me.

which has had 2 GOP Mayors in a row, including a Hispanic Conservative, Ray Martinez

That's nice. Perhaps he should take a look at the seat. Lionel Rivera in C Springs might also be good for higher office if he too is a conservative. I'd don't recall from his '06 house bid if he is.

I still don't understand what kind of an appeal the False Messiah had in wide swaths of rural WI.

Kerry and Gore won more narrowly some of those same areas. the Obey and Kind seats. One of the few rural areas to go for those losers.

Obama won a nasty blowout. Disaster indeed, look at all that extra red in the northeast and northcentral area and darker shades of Red in the southwest compared to 04. McLame wrote off the state didn't he, didn't bother to spend or campaign. The state was a tie in the last 2 elections. I was surpised Kerry eked out a win, likely fraud aided like Gore's with the giving of cigarettes to homeless people in exchange for their absentee ballots.

We lost an Appleton area state house seat that had been GOP held for over 90 years.

Only Baltimore County within Bartlett's district went for the False one

He has Northern Montco too. A conservative part supposedly that they made sure to take away from Morella. They really did a number on MD. The rats in state are isolated geographically to Baltimore and the DC burbs. I'm thinking you could draw 4 GOP seats. Surley one could be made from portions of the 3rd and 5th in south cenrtal MD.

Dem. Leip doesn't have a map for MD's districts, either.

Not yet anyway. He has those for 2004. Seems like has way more states for 2000 with the old lines.

34 posted on 01/04/2009 3:15:56 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy
"Musgrave's continued under performance and large loss are a puzzlement to me."

Partly, one would believe she was under constant attack for being a solid Conservative (her Wikipedia article is so ridiculous in their in-depth scrutiny of her that you seem almost incredulous that they left out an analysis of her bowel movements and whether or not she is capable of being multi-orgasmic). How many 3-term House Democrats have that kind of absurd scrutiny ? Practically zero.

However, there was one charge that stood out, made by her 1st and 2nd opponent, Stan Matsunaka, and it actually is about the worst thing you can be accused of as a member of Congress, that being your constituent services. He charged she was poor in that regard. While I cannot confirm whether this is true, if it is, that could turn enough Republicans in the district against her. A lot of people can look the other way on some issues of disagreement just so long as your office responds to your inquiries in a timely manner. Some members have a better knack for it than others. While that doesn't insulate you completely from defeat if your services are good, it certainly doesn't hurt. I think there was a similar allegation made against now fmr. Rep. Barbara Cubin in WY (as of yesterday, all the folks elected in November are now no longer Senators or Reps-elect. Poor Norm Coleman is now former Senator Coleman until the results are overturned).

"Lionel Rivera in C Springs might also be good for higher office if he too is a conservative. I'd don't recall from his '06 house bid if he is."

Yes, apparently he is. Some article stated he read the Colo Springs City Council the riot act for approving health benefits for employees' same-sex partners.

"Kerry and Gore won more narrowly some of those same areas. the Obey and Kind seats. One of the few rural areas to go for those losers. Obama won a nasty blowout. Disaster indeed, look at all that extra red in the northeast and northcentral area and darker shades of Red in the southwest compared to 04. McLame wrote off the state didn't he, didn't bother to spend or campaign. The state was a tie in the last 2 elections. I was surpised Kerry eked out a win, likely fraud aided like Gore's with the giving of cigarettes to homeless people in exchange for their absentee ballots."

Milwaukee is a problem for fraud, albeit not as bad as Detroit. But in very close races, as WI was in '04, all you need is a handful of errors in precincts spread all over the state in order to change the equation. I was recalling something about the infamous '96 LA Senate race when it was ascertained that even if all the fraud on Landrieu's behalf in NOLA hadn't occurred, all the Dems needed to have done was fix "1" vote in every precinct in the state. One. That ain't a tall order.

"He has Northern Montco too. A conservative part supposedly that they made sure to take away from Morella. They really did a number on MD. The rats in state are isolated geographically to Baltimore and the DC burbs. I'm thinking you could draw 4 GOP seats. Surley one could be made from portions of the 3rd and 5th in south cenrtal MD."

I was looking at another indistinct map that didn't show county borders, so forgot that he had Montco. I found it amazing for a time we held half the House seats in MD (technically, if you look at the overall breakdown, we were overrepresented). We should have at least 3, though. We do have a much larger presence in the legislature than we used to - at one point, in the MD House, we hardly held over 10% of it, as recently as from 1975-1991, though we're down from the 31% we had in 2003-07 (now at 26%). In the Senate, we are at 30% now, as it has been since 2002, and the highest percentage of that body since 1951-55 (although in those days, there were fewer overall Senators). Because the elections are held every 4 years, the swings aren't as dramatic, though I do wonder what they'll do to our people for 2012, especially if that boob O'Malley is reelected. I doubt we'll have any say in how the seats are drawn. At one point, it looked possible we might win the 5th seat of Steny Hoyer's, who was forced to move in '92 to a more GOP-friendly terrain when they hacked a huge chunk of his old seat to bits to create the Black-majority 4th district, but so many Dems have poured into it, it's now out of reach for good.

35 posted on 01/04/2009 4:44:18 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I was wondering about Cubin’s weakness too. Interesting thought.

“(as of yesterday, all the folks elected in November are now no longer Senators or Reps-elect. Poor Norm Coleman is now former Senator Coleman until the results are overturned).”

I hope it’s a when and not an if. :-X If they succeed in stealing this one with double counting of votes! and that swarmy bastard Franken smirks his way to Washington....

On the plus side bye bye Chris Shays!!! Cya. Bye Ted Stevens. Gordon Smith, you did it to yourself numbnuts. :(

Half of Hoyer’s seat (42% Bush) is Price George’s (D) if you the take the rest and add some friendly territory from the 3rd (45% Bush) (and there’s a little in the 7th too) you’d could draw a GOP) seat. Basically I’m looking at Anne A. Calvert and St. Mary’s Counties and Howard (narrow kerry bigger for Obama). Not quite enough for a whole seat. You could add Northern Montco and a little bit of the Baltimore burbs. Might be tricky rejiggering the portion Prince George’s.

A few months ago I was trying to see when the last time the GOP had the Maryland Legislature. There’s a list of House Speakers and Senate Presidents, with no parties listed.

http://mlis.state.md.us/Other/Roster/Appendices.pdf

The GOP Speaker I can confirm is this guy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Emanuel_Mudd_I

No google hits for some guys like Speaker John L. G. Lee who I guess was Speaker after the 1920 election.


36 posted on 01/04/2009 5:52:11 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy
"Half of Hoyer’s seat (42% Bush) is Price George’s (D) if you the take the rest and add some friendly territory from the 3rd (45% Bush) (and there’s a little in the 7th too) you’d could draw a GOP) seat. Basically I’m looking at Anne A. Calvert and St. Mary’s Counties and Howard (narrow kerry bigger for Obama). Not quite enough for a whole seat. You could add Northern Montco and a little bit of the Baltimore burbs. Might be tricky rejiggering the portion Prince George’s."

I was thinking how dramatically PG County has changed. In the '60s and '70s, it had an up-and-coming Republican Congressman (who looked to have the potential to become Governor or Senator), Larry Hogan. He actually did run for both offices, but picked two lousy years to run (he didn't even get the nomination when he ran for Gov in '74). He was the PG County Exec as recently as 1982, probably the last Republican to serve. A lot of Blacks flooded out of DC into the county, dragging their horrific voting habits with them, so now the place is just as violent and lousy a place to live as parts of DC. Unfortunately, too, the "red spread" has moved past PG and is now in Charles, a formerly GOP county.

"A few months ago I was trying to see when the last time the GOP had the Maryland Legislature. There’s a list of House Speakers and Senate Presidents, with no parties listed."

The last time we won the MD House was in 1917 (for 1918-20). In those days, MD elections were off-year (in odd-numbered years) until 1926. In the 1920s, the number of members was increased (in 1918, there were 102 House members, 55R-47D, but by 1923, there were 118 members and the R's dwindled down to just 25 members to 93 (!) for the Dems - and from 1926 until 2002, we never held over 30% of the seats again).

The last time we won the Senate was in 1897 (for 1898-1900). We managed to elect U.S. Senators in joint session for 1897 & 1899. Those were the first two Republicans the state ever elected. We made out a bit better after the popular era, winning in 1916, 1920 & 1928. Of course, we haven't won since 1980 (and that with the dreadful left-winger RINO Charles Mathias, and Mathias was looking for a way to switch parties in his last term without jeopardizing his Chairmanship - he couldn't find a way).

"No google hits for some guys like Speaker John L. G. Lee who I guess was Speaker after the 1920 election."

Lee was a Democrat from Harford County. He was the Speaker for 1922-24. He succeeded a fellow Harford County Democrat in that office, a fella named Millard Tydings. Tydings embarked on a long Senate career (and deserves a lot of infamy in defaming and slandering Sen. Joe McCarthy - McCarthy got his revenge by seeing Tydings defeated in 1950 by John Marshall Butler, the most Conservative Senator MD has had since, and by one account, the most Conservative member of the entire body).

Herbert R. Wooden of Carroll County (1918-20) was the last Republican to serve as House Speaker to date.

37 posted on 01/04/2009 6:55:27 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief; Impy; Clintonfatigued; yongin
Lamborn I don’t have a problem with, but that ugly civil war between him and Joel Hefley/Jeff Crank would be baggage we don’t need in a statewide race. I just literally can’t believe how fast CO’s GOP went into meltdown. A decade ago, it was unimaginable.

A lot of this discord comes out of Focus on the Family. e.g. Jeff Crank.

Schaffer is a loser, he is not a team player,
he never supported Coors after he,
Schaffer lost big time in the primary.


38 posted on 01/04/2009 7:17:20 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: XeniaSt

Coors was the disaster, and he was effectively coronated in that primary (like McCain). Schaffer hardly had any money to compete. The result in the general was quite predictable. That’s what happens when you allow the RINOs to cherry pick incompetent candidates.


39 posted on 01/04/2009 7:43:59 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Coors was the disaster, and he was effectively coronated in that primary (like McCain). Schaffer hardly had any money to compete. The result in the general was quite predictable. That’s what happens when you allow the RINOs to cherry pick incompetent candidates.

Nice to know that folks from Tennessee,
know more about Colorado than those of us in country.

The Schaffer people and the FoF people
continued to tell lies about Coors
after their loss in the Primary.

Colorado was solidly conservative and Republican
until Focus on the Family moved in from California.

The Focus on the Family people have been divisive.


40 posted on 01/04/2009 7:57:10 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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