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It's the Senate for Bennet [Colorado]
Rocky Mountain News ^ | January 2, 2009 | Lynn Bartels

Posted on 01/02/2009 9:26:21 AM PST by george76

Denver Public Schools superintendent Michael Bennet is expected to be named Saturday as the future U.S. Senate replacement for Interior Secretary nominee Ken Salazar, according to two Democratic sources who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Gov. Bill Ritter is expected to name his U.S. Senate replacement pick on Saturday, ending a brief but frenzied period of speculation about who will take the seat of Interior Secretary nominee Ken Salazar.

The selection would be preliminary, since Salazar is not expected to resign his U.S. Senate seat until sometime after Jan. 15, when he faces a confirmation hearing — and later vote — to become President-elect Barack Obama's first Interior Secretary.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: 111th; bennet; billritter; colorado; congress; democrat; denver; electionussenate; kensalazar; michaelbennet; nea; payforplay; ritter; salazar; senate; teachersunion; ussenate
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To: XeniaSt
"Nice to know that folks from Tennessee, know more about Colorado than those of us in country."

Don't pull that red herring crap with me. I was watching that race very closely from start to finish. It was the same crap they pulled in my state and in OK. We had an excellent Conservative Congressman named Ed Bryant who was all set to run, until the RINO establishment pulled the rug out from under him and annointed a RINO instead. Only OK was successful in stopping their Pete Coors/Lamar! Alexander farce from being shoved down their throats. Had Schaffer the money to compete and beaten Coors as he should've, he'd be in the Senate today as opposed to Salazar. The RINO establishment got their revenge on Schaffer this cycle by letting him twist in the wind and not providing him any money. They were quite happy to see Udall win.

Oh, and btw, you look like the only Pete Coors apologist on FR. He was the worst candidate to run for the Senate from Colorado in over 50 years. Anybody with an ounce of sense could've seen how incompetent a candidate and ill-prepared he was. Salazar destroyed him in the debates. You don't put up a newbie to go up against a shark. Focus on the Family didn't make him an incompetent candidate and inarticulate debater.

41 posted on 01/04/2009 8:16:09 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Nothing like a carpetbagger telling you how to run your state.

The self-righteous from FoF refused to back Pete Coors
because he associated with alcohol and
Coors Inc hired Dick Cheney's daughter who is a lesbian.

We had a primary; Coors won. Schaffer and FoF told lies
about Coors and refused to support him.

The lies were: "Coors will not support article two of the Bill of Rights"

That is a bold faced lie; I have shot with Pete.
He was on the Executive Board of the Denver Area Council
and strongly supported Shooting Sports in the Boy Scouts.

Focus on the Family went after Doug Lamborn because
he took a donation from the gamblers in Cripple Creek.

I think you should concentrate on politics in Tennessee
and leave politics in Colorado to the folks who live here.

You are clearly not a follower of the Christ
with all that P0rn on your web site.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

42 posted on 01/04/2009 8:45:09 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: XeniaSt
"Nothing like a carpetbagger telling you how to run your state."

You lost the argument. You started the name calling.

"The self-righteous from FoF refused to back Pete Coors because he associated with alcohol and Coors Inc hired Dick Cheney's daughter who is a lesbian."

Pete Coors was an inarticulate and incompetent candidate, and the choice of the Rove/RINO establishment. Are you accusing Focus on the Family for causing Pete Coors to be inarticulate and incompetent ?

"We had a primary; Coors won. Schaffer and FoF told lies about Coors and refused to support him."

A primary bought by the RINO establishment.

"The lies were: "Coors will not support article two of the Bill of Rights"

And Pete Coors was still an inarticulate and incompetent candidate.

"That is a bold faced lie; I have shot with Pete."

That's not all you're doing with Pete.

"He was on the Executive Board of the Denver Area Council and strongly supported Shooting Sports in the Boy Scouts."

Congratulations. He was was still an inarticulate and incompetent candidate.

"Focus on the Family went after Doug Lamborn because he took a donation from the gamblers in Cripple Creek."

I support Doug Lamborn.

"I think you should concentrate on politics in Tennessee and leave politics in Colorado to the folks who live here."

And respectfully, you can kiss my ass. Anybody who can defend Coors as a candidate obviously demonstrates why Colorado has now become a Democrat state under the auspices of blindly naive and ignorant RINOs like yourself.

"You are clearly not a follower of the Christ with all that P0rn on your web site."

I have no porn on my FR webpage. Porn is not permitted on Free Republic, check the rules. And no follower of Christ judges another as you have done, FRiend. You have a nice day.

43 posted on 01/04/2009 9:00:01 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: XeniaSt

What a nice doggy you have.


44 posted on 01/05/2009 12:52:42 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Maryland has always seemed like an odd and unique political entity to me.

Yeah I decided to leave Charles out of my proposed district there with it's huge swing to Obama. Dole won it with 48%. Bush lost it in 2004 with the same 48. Bam 62% for Obama, yikes.

I checked the list. Hogan was the last GOP County Exec (or only GOP one I guess they didn't have them before 1970?). He was succeeded by Glendening. I believe MD Governors are styled your excellency. I reading once "His Excellency Parris Glendening".

The last time we won the Senate was in 1897

"he didn't even get the nomination when he ran for Gov in '74"

Who did? Seeing as how he voted for Tricky Dick's impeachment you'd think that would be popular.

Interesting he was elected. PG was never exactly Republican was it? I see the last Republican to hold his seat before him was elected to the 83rd.

"The last time we won the MD House was in 1917 (for 1918-20). In those days, MD elections were off-year (in odd-numbered years) until 1926. "

DJ's got the info! That explains that.

In the 1920s, the number of members was increased (in 1918, there were 102 House members, 55R-47D, but by 1923, there were 118 members and the R's dwindled down to just 25 members to 93 (!) for the Dems - and from 1926 until 2002, we never held over 30% of the seats again).

Dayum that's a huge drop and a pathetic % for 80 years. What's your problem Maryland. Gerryland?

and Mathias was looking for a way to switch parties in his last term without jeopardizing his Chairmanship - he couldn't find a way).

Yeah cause's there's not a way unless you switch the majoirty with you. That dirty punk.

McCarthy got his revenge by seeing Tydings defeated in 1950 by John Marshall Butler, the most Conservative Senator MD has had since, and by one account, the most Conservative member of the entire body

Wow I would have thought he was a moderate like the Bealls. Perhaps he would have made a good running mate for Nixon in '60.

45 posted on 01/05/2009 1:37:58 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Oh and that’s a helluva long time on the Maryland State Senate. What a crappy record. I guess only Alabama(time to get with the program Bama!), Arkansas, Mississippi and Louisiana have it beat.

I gather that the 2 houses being split used to rarer back in the olden days.


46 posted on 01/05/2009 1:43:25 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy
"Maryland has always seemed like an odd and unique political entity to me."

Quite so. Border states like it had a weird persona. They never were under the Reconstruction gun, but yet they were not fully comfortable and fitting the pattern of a Northern or Southern state. For awhile, Kentucky shared some similarities with it, although they were clearly more Southern in outlook, but both had some modest GOP presences, and a rare occasion of a GOP majority (at least at the federal level), although the resemblence is gone now. WV also was somewhat in the style between them, but they had a much stronger GOP presence than either (and from 1895-1933, it basically was a Republican state, but the heavy unionization turned it Democrat from that point on -- absent unionization, WV was a lot like East TN, an odd duck in the South for being a solidly GOP area from Reconstruction right up until today).

"Yeah I decided to leave Charles out of my proposed district there with it's huge swing to Obama. Dole won it with 48%. Bush lost it in 2004 with the same 48. Bam 62% for Obama, yikes."

It's clearly due to the new arrivals. It's one of the fastest growing counties in the state. No doubt these suburbanites, sadly, are mostly rodent.

"I checked the list. Hogan was the last GOP County Exec (or only GOP one I guess they didn't have them before 1970?). He was succeeded by Glendening. I believe MD Governors are styled your excellency. I reading once "His Excellency Parris Glendening"."

PG County first elected an Executive in 1971. There was a mistake on Wikipedia stating the first, William Gullet, was a Democrat, he was a Republican and Presidential elector in 1972. He likely would've won a second term were it not for local difficulties. Hogan put it back in the GOP column in '78 (but he didn't run for reelection, preferring to try to take on Paul Sarbanes, then a first-term Senator). Glendening was the last White County Exec PG will probably have for some time to come. His successor, Wayne Curry, was a bit more pragmatic (fairly close to DINO). Curry endorsed Ehrlich-Steele in '02 and there was some speculation Curry would succeed Steele on the ticket with Ehrlich in '06 (something I personally endorsed), but that didn't materialize. The Republicans were the first to run a Black candidate for statewide office, but that wasn't Steele. State Senator & Dr. Aris T. Allen was the first in 1978 when he was the Lt Gov nominee with ex-Sen. Glenn Beall, Jr. Allen had high leadership positions both in the legislature and in the state GOP. Unfortunately, Allen was nearly 70 by the time he was the nominee. He was back in the House as late as 1990 and died in '91 at the age of 80.

"Who did? Seeing as how he voted for Tricky Dick's impeachment you'd think that would be popular."

It was former State Sen. Louise Gore. She narrowly beat Hogan for the nomination. But Barone stated in the almanac of the time, Gore made the rounds meeting the GOP primary voters while Hogan was exclusively focused on running against the troubled Mandel, and that accounted for his surprising loss. She got a disappointing, but respectable 37% against the troubled Marvin Mandel. Barone theorized if Hogan had gotten the nomination, despite the bad GOP year, he might've actually managed an upset. The state wasn't ready for a woman Governor (and still has yet to have one), although Gore would've probably done decently. She was described as a Conservative. As for poor Glenn Beall, he did even worse in the better year of '78 when he got only 29% (!) in the open race. But Harry Hughes was not the person he expected to face, Beall was expecting to run against Lt Gov (and acting Gov during Mandel's legal troubles) Blair Lee. When Lee was beaten by Hughes in the Dem primary (and Hughes ran as the anti-Mandel), it was all over for Beall.

"Interesting he was elected. PG was never exactly Republican was it? I see the last Republican to hold his seat before him was elected to the 83rd."

By the '60s with its increasing suburbanization, PG moved towards the GOP, displacing an old rural Democrat machine settled on Upper Marlboro (the courthouse), and was clearly GOP by the early '70s, but by 1976, it was moving back to the Dems and with the dramatic increase in middle-class Blacks, followed by poorer ones fleeing the likes of Anacostia. You can see by these figures ('68-41%R/40%D; '72-59%R; '76-42%R; '80-41%R; '84-41%R; '88-39%R; '92-25%R; '96-22%R; '00-18%R; '04-17%R; '08-10%R). PG is now more Democrat than Baltimore City, simply unimaginable in the 1970s, the most Democrat area in the state of MD. One wonders where all those Republicans still present in the '80s went.

But, yes, prior to Hogan, Frank Small, a PG County native, won in '52, swept in on Ike's coattails. He lost by a 6% margin in '54 (Small was a bit too much an early bloomer, as the Dem machine was still in place then). As the district shrunk in size with the addition of another Cong. district and became more suburban by the mid '60s, Hogan ran against the incumbent Dem, Hervey Machen in '66, but lost by a respectable 8% (Machen escaping the anti-LBJ bloodbath). But Hogan caught a wave in '68 (Spiro's help ?) and this time beat Machen, 53-47%. Hogan quite probably would've been reelected in '74 had he stayed put. As it was, and a demonstration the district was still Republican, the Dem, Gladys N. Spellman won by only 53-47% over John Burcham, a Hogan protege. Her increasing margins from that point on were due to increasing Black voting percentages.

Spellman would've probably settled in for a long career in the House, but when she was just 62, she had a massive heart attack days before the '80 general election. Unfortunately, she didn't die (which would've been a blessing), but lingered horribly in a coma for the next 7 years of her life, dying at 70, without ever regaining consciousness. The Dems had her seat declared vacant after waiting 4 months to see if she would make any progress. When the special election was called, we ran a very respectable candidate, Audrey Scott, who got 44%, but she lost to Steny Hoyer. Too many Black Dems were in the district now and refused to consider voting GOP at that point. 6 years earlier, with different demographics, Scott would've won. As it was, Miss Scott, I believe became the last Republican to be elected to local office within PG County. She ran for County Exec against Jack Johnson when Curry retired, but lost by a 2-to-1 margin (still, with 34%, that was double the percentage most Republicans in the county receive, now 3 1/2 times today). Ehrlich gave her a position in his administration. After Curry, I'd have probably chosen Scott for a running mate for Ehrlich in '06.

Of note, Larry Hogan's son (Larry, Jr.), when the lines were redrawn in '92 to make the district more GOP and White (Hoyer could've tried to run in the 4th, but it would've been difficult against Al Wynn), ran against Hoyer, and gave him the closest race since Audrey Scott. He got 44% and Hoyer got a subpar 53% (with a 3rd party candidate getting 3%). Junior had placed second to Audrey Scott in the 1981 GOP special primary. Had the seat been open in '92 or '94, Junior probably would've won, but the seat has continually gotten more Dem. Our best year since was in '96 with John S. Morgan, who got 43%, but the figures have dropped precipitously since, and Hoyer has never had a first tier challenger since.

"Dayum that's a huge drop and a pathetic % for 80 years. What's your problem Maryland. Gerryland?"

I think gerrymandering is part of it, but the GOP was never deeply ingrained. The reason for our winning the legislature in 1917 was due to a one-time uptick in anti-Dem voting. In Baltimore City, for example, of the 24 member delegation in 4 districts (6 members apiece) the GOP swept 16 of them to 8 Democrats. In 1919, they lost 10 of those seats, and only won in the 4th district, sweeping all 6 of those (the sole gain they made, they held 5 of those in 1917). By 1922, they lost all of those to Democrats and had zero Republicans. To get an idea of how badly the GOP was perpetually shut out of Balto City, the district lines (then in 1924 split into 6 districts of 6 members elected to each, 36 members in total, whose districts remained in place (albeit some added a member over time) until 1974, no Republicans were EVER elected again in the 1st district, although at that point, the last time any won was in the 1909 election when they swept 4 of the 6. None won ever again in the 2nd district from 1917-75. Not until 1954 did won win again in the 3rd. In the 4th, there were occasional GOP wins from the '20s & '30s, and then one in the '50s, but it became a Black area, and then no more Republicans were ever elected. In the 5th, one guy was elected in the late '20s, but then never again. This became the district later where Marvin Mandel and Ben Cardin came from (Cardin being elected as long ago as 1966 when he was about your age, and has never been out of office since). The 6th district never elected a Republican in the period between '24-'74, either. By 1974, there were a whopping 43 members in those 6 districts alone, and it was all-Democrat. There were only 21 Republicans in the entire House spread out all over the rest of the state. MD has been sort of infamous for its bizarre multi-member House districts that it has, and they're not just confined to urban areas, either. Many districts have 3 members, but some have districts with just 1 or 2, and some of the districts are numbered and lettered (such as 9A, 9B). Confusing as hell.

"Wow I would have thought he was a moderate like the Bealls. Perhaps he would have made a good running mate for Nixon in '60."

Butler may have been perceived as too close to Joe McCarthy (who was thoroughly vilified by 1960, nevermind that the Kennedys even in '52 wanted McCarthy's support when JFK ran for the Senate, McCarthy detested Lodge and vice versa. Lodge considered McCarthy part of the "rabble" that he didn't wish to be a part of. That superior, smug Brahmin attitude was the reason the GOP disintegrated in MA from majority party status at that point). Butler may have also been tired. He was 63 in 1960 and a WW1 veteran (he was born right around when my grandfather was in 1897), and he voluntarily retired in 1962, undefeated. Ironically, his 1956 opponent was the legendary George Mahoney, the "George Wallace/Lester Maddox" of Maryland (Populist/Conservative). Mahoney really irritated the urban liberal Democrats in the state. His nomination in '66 for Governor was the last straw for them, and they ran a 3rd party Democrat, which enabled Agnew to win.

One weird note about Butler: He actually did not win the 1950 Senate primary in real total votes. David Markey, who lost by only a half percent to ex-Gov. Herbert O'Conor in 1946, won by 2% over Butler, but because there was a proportional voting system ("unit voting"), Butler won a higher total in units. Markey's problem may have been age. He was 69 in 1950 and would be dead by 1959. He might've been able to defeat the ultraliberal Millard Tydings, but the seat probably would've been back in Dem hands before long (and Tydings, who had been in office continuously since about 1916, was still 9 years younger than Markey). Butler was 16 years younger. Markey, at 71, tried one last time to make a run in the GOP-leaning 6th House district, but lost the primary by a wide margin to DeWitt Hyde. Hyde was almost 30 years younger. He was one of the casualties in the 1958 anti-Ike landslide (although we won the seat back in '60 - with, you guessed it, the liberal Chuck Mathias). Mathias was followed in that seat when he was elected to the Senate in '68 by, yup, Glenn Beall. Beall won the Senate seat after a single term in the House by beating Millard Tydings's adopted son, Joe Tydings. The Democrats, Goodloe Byron, followed by his wife, Beverly, held the seat for the next 22 years. But the Byrons were well to the right of both Mathias and Beall. Poor Roscoe Bartlett ran against Bev Byron in 1982, and she obliterated him by the margin of 74-26%. Bev probably would've kept on winning (had we not been able to persuade her to switch parties) had she not been beaten in the '92 Dem primary. Roscoe Bartlett lucked out enormously when the Byroncrats (which were really Republicans anyway that supported the Byrons) rebuked the Dem nominee and he won, otherwise he'd have just been a placeholder candidate for the GOP.

47 posted on 01/05/2009 5:03:10 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: BIGLOOK

My take is that Gov. Ritter needs union money and union *volunteers* for the Ritter re-election.

This is a ‘pay to play’ with the NEA.

Mayor Hickenlooper is the more powerful political figure.

Good for us.


48 posted on 01/05/2009 6:48:41 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; Impy; Clemenza

I find the choice mindboggling (I was sure that Ritter would pick John Salazar). Unless I’m horribly mistaken (and, if so, I apologize), Bennet is openly gay (or at least doesn’t try very hard to hide it). Barney Frank will be heartbroken if the first openly gay U.S. Senator is someone other than him.

There’s a potential 2010 Senate pickup right there.


49 posted on 01/05/2009 6:50:51 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: Impy; fieldmarshaldj

You could definitely draw 4 GOP districts in MD, and in 2000 you could have drawn 4 GOP districts and a liberal MD-08 that would have been held by RINO Connie Morella. The easiest way would be to draw a white ultraliberal CD in Montco, a black-majority CD taking in all of Baltimore City (including the white parts currently in MD-03) and a few suburbs, a black-majority CD taking in the western Baltco suburbs, most of Howard County and black areas in PG County, and a third black-majority district takin in most of PG County, less heavily white parts of Montco and most of Charles County. The four GOP CDs would be (i) the Eastern Shore plus most of Southern Maryland (which, DJ correct me if I’m wrong, were together prior to 1992), (ii) all of Ann Arundel County, parts of Baltco and most if not all of Harford County, (iii) most of Baltco (excluding Dem areas) and Carrol County and (iv) the Western Panhandle plus less heavily Democrat parts of Montco and Howard Counties.

But, of course, the Democrats control redistricting. I wonder if they’ll try to draw 7 comfortably Democrat districts, which could be done, especially if they draw two Montco-based white CDs (one taking in Frederick and Hagerstown, the other taking in parts of Ann Arundel and white parts of PG) and draw two black-majority CDs based in PG County that also take in parts of Southern MD and the Eastern Shore (which votes GOP but has quite a few blacks and would be swamped by the 90%+ margins in black PG precincts), one of which could continue up until eastern Baltimore City.


50 posted on 01/05/2009 7:14:53 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I know nothing about Bennet, or his sexual orientation. What’s more amazing that Auggie passed on appointing Hickenlooper, who would’ve been a stronger candidate to hold this seat. Do we even know if Bennet intends to run for the full term ? Somehow I think some other Dems are going to want the office, and a bloodbath is likely to benefit us (but who we run, I don’t know, and I will actively oppose Tancredo or Owens). I’m wondering if Gale Norton is a possibility, since she has won statewide office before, although anyone associated with the Dubya Administration will have some baggage (although it didn’t harm Johanns in NE).


51 posted on 01/05/2009 7:22:43 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
"The four GOP CDs would be (i) the Eastern Shore plus most of Southern Maryland (which, DJ correct me if I’m wrong, were together prior to 1992)"

The 1st district (when the apostate Gilchrest first won it in '90) consisted of the entire Eastern Shore, half of the eastern half of Harford County, and even Charles, St. Mary's and Calvert County on the western side. For '92, Harford was put wholly into the 2nd (then Helen Bentley's district, later Ehrlich's), and the three western shore counties were put into the newly-configured 5th district (of which that gave Hoyer some trouble with nailing down after he first ran in it).

I still wonder if even with the most optimistic lines if we could squeeze 4 seats now given the drop-off in GOP support. Even Bartlett gave his 3rd worst performance (excluding his '82 run), although his advancing age probably played a part, too. Wasn't Alexander X. Mooney, a Hispanic State Senator from Frederick, supposed to be the odds-on candidate to succeed him ?

52 posted on 01/05/2009 7:36:30 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Impy
What a nice doggy you have.

Maxwell is a good ole hound dawg.

53 posted on 01/05/2009 8:06:55 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I think you could draw four CDs that gave McCain over 51% in 2008, and gave President Bush over 54% in 2004.

Alex X. Mooney is a Cuban-American (on his mother’s side) state senator from Frederick, and I believe he is still the favorite to replace Bartlett when he retires. Mooney last won reelection in 2006, albeit by a rather small margin (ina horrible GOP year, of course).


54 posted on 01/05/2009 11:12:43 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj

Nothing has been said about him being gay. That would mean he’s not “out” if he is.

Of course everyone in Florida knew Foley was gay and brought his BF to parties and stuff and it was never reported through the “rumors” were active.

I never heard of the guy before he was picked. I got to be believe he will be challenged. John Salazar (possibly didn’t want to risk the seat) and Hinclelooper both gushed praise, we’ll see what they think a year from now.

I would have bet money it would’ve been Hinclelooper, Salazar or outgoing Speaker Romanoff.


55 posted on 01/05/2009 4:41:23 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: XeniaSt

It should be no coincidence that close associate with James Dobson has reduced the CO GOP to be a CO Springs only party. Dick armey is correct when he accused FoF of being bullies. Dobson likes to see himself as a king maker. The people Dobson endorses are the best candidates. Dobson bad mouthed Fred Thompson because he didn’t attend church enough.


56 posted on 01/05/2009 6:37:07 PM PST by yongin (Converting people to Mormonism makes the world more conservative)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I have no porn on my FR webpage. Porn is not permitted on Free Republic, check the rules.

And no follower of Christ judges another as you have done, FRiend. You have a nice day.

Now it is patently clear you are not a follower of the Christ.

Or you would not mouth liberal versions of "Jesus".

Yah'shua commands us to Judge

NAsbU John 7:24 "Do not judge according to appearance,
but judge with righteous judgment."

NAsbU Luke 17:3 "Be on your guard!
If your brother sins, rebuke him;
and if he repents, forgive him.

NAsbU 1 Timothy 5:20 Those who continue in sin,
rebuke in the presence of all,
so that the rest also will be fearful of sinning.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
57 posted on 01/05/2009 7:13:51 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: yongin
It should be no coincidence that close associate with James Dobson has reduced the CO GOP to be a CO Springs only party. Dick armey is correct when he accused FoF of being bullies. Dobson likes to see himself as a king maker. The people Dobson endorses are the best candidates. Dobson bad mouthed Fred Thompson because he didn’t attend church enough.

I agree with Dick Armey.
There has been falloff in the Republican Party,
since FoF came from California.

Dobson has issues with Jesus
as he, Dobson, is trying to control the fallen world.

He seems to suffer from the sin of Pride.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
58 posted on 01/05/2009 8:15:10 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I don’t know anything about that. He is married to Susan Daggett, a locally prominent environmental lawyer.


59 posted on 01/05/2009 8:38:35 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (If greed is a virtue, than corporate socialism is conservative)
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To: XeniaSt

Apparently your version of Christianity is one in which that slanders and telling lies about other Christians is A-OK. I think you sound more like the followers of the Dark One, speaking with a forked tongue. You have a nice day.


60 posted on 01/05/2009 8:57:23 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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