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1 posted on 01/04/2009 12:27:20 AM PST by rabscuttle385
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It is also RINO (Republicans in name only) that have supported these liberal policies and made it possible for them to dominate the school system.

Until the republican party rids itself of rino control (Duncan) nothing will happen except more liberalism. You have to take out the trash for the house to get clean.

44 posted on 01/04/2009 4:58:40 AM PST by sirchtruth (Gravity Of The Situation...)
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” why in a county that is over 60% Republican and conservative, do we allow our local school system to be run by liberals?”

Try going to a local government meeting and it’s rare to see a conservative in attendance, while in back are a dozen liberals, welfare bums and Marxists screaming for higher taxes, more government and less freedom.

There’s your answer.

Conservatives are so focused on the federal government that they forget to clean up their own backyard first.


45 posted on 01/04/2009 5:04:12 AM PST by sergeantdave (Michigan is a bigger mistake than your state.)
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I can't do much for the conservative movement per se, but I did pull my children out of public school and homeschooled them.

If every conservative had enough and did that, it would make a world of difference. Who is willing to pay the price of living more simply in order to have that happen? It seems the word "sacrifice" is no longer in the conservative's vocabulary.

46 posted on 01/04/2009 5:06:01 AM PST by pray4liberty (Always vote for life!)
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"That begs the question, why in a county that is over 60% Republican and conservative, do we allow our local school system to be run by liberals?

The author makes the same mistake that the conservatives did back in the 1820's, when they went from opposing to supporting the creation of public schools. They thought it is possible to run a socialist institution in a conservative manner. Can't happen, it's impossible.

Public education is a socialist institution. By it's nature, it is going to support the further expansion of government. By it's nature, it is going to oppose excellence. By it's nature, it will be subject to fads, fashions and cockamamie ideas in education in the attempt to solve its inner contradictions.

The only solution to socialist institutions is to shut them down and return power and freedom to the people. Forget about "reforming" public schools, that's a fool's errand.

52 posted on 01/04/2009 5:40:20 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Barack Obama, the American Salvador Allende.)
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I’ll go one step further— Not only do we need to take back the education system, but more importantly, we MUST take the MSM. Unless we have the media, we will never win any significant long term battles. The media is key to any effort in the future.


53 posted on 01/04/2009 5:44:35 AM PST by devane617 (...And to the Republic For Which It Stood...)
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Public schooling and liberals go together naturally. It’s liberals who think the govt does it better and needs no excuse to commit tyranny when it’s for the children.
Attempts to equalize things politically will always fail for this reason. It’s their natural habitat, not ours.
Just get your kids out of there. If you think your local school is any different, get your head out of the sand too, because it isn’t.

New tagline...Live your principles. Don’t just type them here.


54 posted on 01/04/2009 5:52:42 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Live your principles. Don't just type them here.)
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Christians called to mass exodus from public schools
One News Now ^ | 1/2/2009 | Pete Chagnon

Critics of America’s public school system have launched a new effort highlighting the need for Christians to exit the system.

The initiative — dubbed The Call to Dunkirk was launched by Dr. Bruce Shortt, author of The Harsh Truth About Public Schools; Rev. Voddie Baucham, author of Family Driven Faith: Doing What It Takes to Raise Sons and Daughters Who Walk with God; and the founder and director of the Exodus Mandate Project, retired U.S. Army Chaplain Lt. Col. E. Ray Moore.

Moore explains the proposal. “The Call to Dunkirk is a special emergency effort to try to get other ministries, churches, pastors, and the major Christian right and pro-family movement to join with us and the other K-12 home-school ministries in rescuing the children from the public schools during the year 2009,” he says.

Although Christians have fought other aspects of the culture war such as homosexual “marriage,” Moore contends they are losing the fight when it comes to the education of their children.

” The real target of the liberals and the left has always been the children. And we can see in California where the conservatives won Proposition 8 — the vote [was] 52 to 48 [percent] — but...when Proposition 22 was voted on [in March 2000], they had a 61-percent margin of victory. So the culture is turning against Christianity and against the pro-family movement primarily because we’ve allowed our children to be educated in their schools,” he adds. “They’re converting our children; we’re not converting them.”

The Call to Dunkirk gets its name from the historical WWII event when the Allied forces of England and France were run out of Europe, but ordinary citizens rallied to their aid and used their own boats to help more than 300,000 soldiers escape safely in order to return again on D-Day.


56 posted on 01/04/2009 6:12:35 AM PST by CharlotteVRWC
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57 posted on 01/04/2009 6:13:51 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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Few conservatives voted this election now look what we have in office an 100% pure idiot.


60 posted on 01/04/2009 6:23:21 AM PST by Vaduz
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Here's my program:

Education Policy Components

  1. Assist formation of corporate service associations. Offer State funding for local school districts to divest into smaller, more responsive institutions.
  2. Use the private and home education market to develop and test learning tools and services. Private validation services would assess product performance against their claims. School boards would be free to select these products for use in public schools. Insurance on the guarantee would cover the cost of remedial education if the product fails to meet warranted performance.
  3. Investigate teachers' unions for partisan activities using tax-exempt funds. Prosecute officers for fraud.
  4. Enforce the U.S. Supreme Court decision re Communications Workers v. Beck (487 US 735, 1988).
  5. Eliminate regulations that stand in the way of charter schools.
  6. Eliminate sole bargaining provisions or programs.
  7. Institute merit pay, vouchers, educational tax credits, and educational savings accounts.
  8. Veto any bill requiring home and private educators to conform to State teacher certification standards or any bill requiring State supervision of home schools.
  9. Analyze any Federal program for insufficient funds and unintended consequences suspecting unfunded mandates. Cite New York v. United States (505 US 144, 1992).
  10. Support private scholarship programs that contain a promise of future employment, whereby students are directed into economically useful fields of study.
  11. Allow top graduates of inner city schools to enroll at junior colleges for two years, free. Then let them enroll at UC as sophomores on an equal footing.

64 posted on 01/04/2009 6:53:13 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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There has been no Conservative leadership since Monica Lewinsky, about the time the Clintons got a hold of the FBI files.


71 posted on 01/04/2009 7:30:45 AM PST by Sawdring
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Tennessee ping


75 posted on 01/04/2009 8:12:39 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (If greed is a virtue, than corporate socialism is conservative)
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This is an editorial on the Chattanooga school system, but it could apply to just about any public school.


76 posted on 01/04/2009 8:13:29 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (If greed is a virtue, than corporate socialism is conservative)
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I have 3 children that attend public school. I have found that our school reflected our community. I would say the vast majority of teachers actually live in our area and send their kids to the same schools. We see the teachers as neighbors, in the grocery store, at church and the ball field.

Up until recently I lived in a very conservative area. Our biggest groups in HS are Younglife and FCA. Flags and the Pledge were always in the schools, even before 9/11, we still pray after football games, posters of the Military, and our Presidents are always present, and yes, all kids are given a pocket version of the Constitution. We also had a graduation rate of over 90% with 80% going to college. Lots of national awards in both academics and athletics. The alumni from the school is quite impressive.

However, the demographics has changed dramatically recently. Even the teachers are disgusted. The attitude of the children and the parents have just gone downhill. In previous years there was a ton of community and parental support, now it is plummeting as is the school. It is really a shame.


81 posted on 01/04/2009 8:27:23 AM PST by panthermom
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There are many problems with public education, but the commie teacher unions and the leftist professors are little more than nats on the arse of the beast. The real problem is the cultural rot that most of this country is experiencing. There is an abundance of white trash, black trash, unemployed slothful single parent , meth-addicted, crack-head, crack-whore, lazy, faking disability, types of parents out there that just don't give a damn about themselves or their children. The only reason they drag their lazy asses out of bed an take their kids to school is because the law says they have to. The absolute rot of our culture is a thousand times more destructive than the pencil necked little commie teacher whose arguments can be refuted in less than ten minutes.
88 posted on 01/04/2009 8:55:26 AM PST by Jay Redhawk
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“Yes, while conservatives have slept, the local school systems across the country, including ours, have been completely taken over by liberals.”

School Systems? Everything has been taken over by the liberals! And they had plenty of help from the ‘R’s....


89 posted on 01/04/2009 8:59:07 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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It is also RINO (Republicans in name only) that have supported these liberal policies and made it possible for them to dominate the school system.

Ain't that the truth.

I don't recall the details, but some national education standards, and curriculum standards, were adopted nationally during the GHWB administration. GHWB commented at times how he and the Governor from Arkansas worked together on agreeing to the new educational standards.

Reagan's worst mistake.

94 posted on 01/04/2009 9:11:46 AM PST by Will88
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Pingeroonie!


96 posted on 01/04/2009 9:22:31 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Live your principles. Don't just type them here.)
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Bookmark for pingout.


97 posted on 01/04/2009 9:22:31 AM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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ping


102 posted on 01/04/2009 9:44:30 AM PST by Professional Engineer (You don't know the power of the Dork Side.)
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