Posted on 01/05/2009 8:31:03 AM PST by dragnet2
More than 200 O.C. social service workers will be getting pink slips Monday, as county officials are forced to trim $30 million
The layoffs, now expected to affect 213 workers at Orange County's Social Services Agency
Workers are in an uproar because they said that with the economic crisis, now is when they are needed the most.
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The ever growing government at all levels has been dragging this country into a 3rd world ditch and are the main source of America's problems.
Local state, and Federal governments need to eliminate millions of these overpaid freeloaders from the government payroll. It's choking this country off.
Job security. Ala` the USSR.
This whole welfare thing sticks in my craw big time.
I had a sister who lived on welfare for over ten years.
It was disgusting then; it’s disgusting now.
But,how else can Rats ensure a solid,loyal voter base unless they keep suckling these pathetic wastes of time?
That being said...the welfare program should be completely overhauled....
Mandatory random drug testing.
Mandatory attendance to classes that get individuals out and working to support themselves.
Mandatory “term limits” for recipients-not more than one year.
Guidelines that dictate,if you get pregnant at any time during that year,you are terminated from the program.
Alas,it will never be.Gotta have them voters!
its no mystery....unions give to liberals who take from “rich” and give to poor who vote for liberals or take overpaid union jobs who pay dues to union who give to liberals.....etc :)
10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
11 For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.
12 Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.
13 But ye, brethren, be not weary in well doing.
14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.
15 Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.
2 Thessalonians 3
...we should help those that cannot fend for themselves, but we should not coddle those that can work and do not. they should be loved, but shamed.
People often ask what would Jesus do..well, he would let those that don;’t work out of lazieness or pride go without food, not give them a handout. God gives us what we need, not what we want. Sometimes people need to learn a hard lesson.
“213 Food stamp dealers get axed...”
Get axed what?
Militant
“To me, this is just a complete waste of time. Lay off workers that should have long ago been replaced by a computer terminal kiosk? Don’t get it. Some fraud investigators, maybe a couple people to stand by to help people who can’t figure out how to follow instructions on the screen, I can understand that, but why they haven’t been replaced by touch screens and a keyboard just mystifies me.”
You’ve no doubt watched the computerized voting fiascos and you ask that question?
Virginia is in more of a mess than ever over its attempts to computerize its state services under programs that...yes...Mark Warner had implemented (which helped Mushroom Virginia’s debt to 3 billion this past year). Tim Kaine inherited the ongoing conversions which are constantly behind schedule and in occaisional disarray, so while he’s a Democrat, I can’t fault him for that mess other than him going with Warner’s ultra optimistic economic growth projections which left us in a further budgetary lurch.
Computer technology is not mature yet as well. With desktops and storage becoming so powerful that an entire state’s data could be stored in a single class room sized operations center, there are problems melding such equipment with old mainframes still operating on tape drives written in older languages. Then there are bandwidth and networking issues. Maintaining the security of the data is a huge concern with Virginia choaking on efforts to put REAL ID into effect for those who need drivers licenses and other secure ID’s. (Heck, super computers in desktop sized towers can be had for about 12000 dollars or so, now). Maintenance of these systems is also a head-ache. You might layoff 2 or 3 thousand paper pushers for every 2 or 3 hundred IT folks you have to hire to run these systems. Yet there will be no savings of tax money realized in terms of equipment buys, UNEMPLOYEMENT and welfare costs for the thousands laid off, as well as the high 5 to low 6 figure salaries that will need to be paid to the IT folks hired.
Now with a real mess like the OC social workers are in, these layoffs by default will slow up the processing of new welfare applicants and perhaps discourage folks from even attempting to suck at the teat of government. Some may slip thru the cracks, but quite a few folks may end up getting motivated enough to get off the system and stay off of it!
What you say is absolutely true. However the “magic negro” is going to grow this govt. like nothing we’ve seen since F.D.R.,
Our last truly socialist president.
The interview process is a checking of forms and verification of documents. This, again, is a process that can easily be handled by almost anyone. To be honest, the average store clerk does a more intense document screening when someone writes a check, or in some cases, even when using a credit card. These documents can be scanned at a kiosk and sent to a data center for verification, which would be nice, since most social workers barely look at the documents presented anyway.
A simple terminal kiosk could easily replace a thousand state workers in each state. This isn't rocket science - if you'll go to your local social security office, there is a kiosk that handles your appointment. Changing the data entry points on such a system would be easy.
Oh, and you can lay off hundreds of security personnel, stop spending millions on screening equipment, as you don't need to check and see if anyone’s got guns coming in to use the kiosk (like entering a government building suspends the constitution in the first place..), and as to concerns for fraud - eh, we have that now. Stick a fingerprint reader and a webcam on the kiosk if you like. Again, a data center could compare the image received from the kiosk with the image on file from a driver's license.
I do agree with the gist of your comments but the outlays necessary for the equipment to do what you are suggesting,(which should have happened years ago) in a state like California would simply be staggering, and that is if you could get the equipment installed and the training done within or under its projected budget. Some folks can’t read and will need some-one to input info for them. Then, expect the law suits from folks who can’t read the kiosks because the info is not written in their respective foreign languages.
A 40 billion dollar deficit doesn’t leave much in the way of California’s ability to computerize the state’s CSR desks. So they are left to just simply cutting state and county employment and slowing down the time it takes to process new and current welfare applicants...there-bye saving money by denial of benefits and the creation of newly unemployed.
There is going to be a time of great want in this nation and I fear that the youngsters coming up will in great numbers have no stamina to with-stand the slavery that is coming. They will literally be unable to withstand a system that tells them, “Take this mark, or go hungry into the dark!”
Thank you for those passages.
I agree with you.
With that in mind,I think that it is ironic that in many urban communities,you see churches on every corner,mostly storefront types,and also in that same community you see an abnormally high rate of those who are on the public dole.
They must have missed 2 Thessalonians 3.
I think what I have outlined would work,but as I have said,the Rats need that voter block,so there ya go.
Nothing will change for the better unless lawmakers grow a spine and enact some of these changes that gear people towards being productive. It would certainly have a positive effect on the children of welfare recipients who are presently being taught to just remain victimized and keep getting a free lunch on the backs of hard-working,productive people.Something has got to change,and I don’t mean 0bama’s kind of change either.
It concerns me that there are 213 excess case workers in Orange County alone who are processing food stamp welfare applications. How many recipients does that translate to? There’s the REAL problem and where your taxes are going. And the 213 does not include the processors who did’t get laid off.
Uh, the social service workers were terminated, fired, let go or axed if you will.
its das that many groups go to church on sundays and then go out on Monday and do things against Christ. The poor forsake work for handouts, catholics have/support abortions and divorce, Americans of every stipe support racy movies, music, etc.
I Mathew somewhere it talks about Jesus not coming to bring peace, but rather, like a sword, to divide. Those who belevie and follow the way of Christ (none of us is perfect and we all fall short, but at least admits our faults before God and even before man) and those who knowingly disobey God and try to explain it away or pick and choose what biblical teachings they will beleive or not.
Take care!
Staggering? Each of those social workers are paid well over 4 grand a month. Their retirement benefits will likely be equal to their current salary, assuming that the public employees continue to bleed the state. Even if we somehow purchased the the most top of the line touchscreen computers off the shelf, and paid someone an exorbinant amount of money to put it in a box, we still would not equal a single month’s salary of one of these workers.
It is, actually, more staggering how much we spend on public employees, at all levels, in all departments.
We have a state here that now spends a staggering twelve and a half billion dollars each and every month.
It's strangling the life out of this country.
Yeah, I get that....mine was an attempt to make a little joke through a play on words.
Since I have to explain it, it’s not funny.....
Militant
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